[DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63
marshallgsmith
marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
Wed Nov 16 13:05:23 EST 2022
It seemed to me the P-63 was traveling way too fast and completely away from the display track the other planes were taking.I still can't believe this accident happened and I keep thinking perhaps the P-63 pilot had a medical emergency.RIP to the pilots and condolences to their families.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: The Goyaniuks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Date: 11/16/22 9:52 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63 A very very sad aircraft collision.The loss of life is tragic.Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual contact of the B-17.The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside of the display "race track".The video appears to show that the P-63 was inside and tight of the track on the approach to the display line..As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the wing - severing the B-17.The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the "Mighty" 8th AF.B. GoyaniukPilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote: Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most: "What caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?" __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:18 PM To: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when Milk Duds were 5 cents per box...:)" ________________________________ From: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> Cc: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? Chris, True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights were that much or more at one time.... Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote: > > Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't cheap! > Chris > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable > smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com> > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney > <dan at excaliburre.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? > > Lashdeep, > Check out this page: > [1]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww > w.holley.com%2Fblog%2Fpost%2Fhow_to_convert_your_car_to_led_headlights_ > with_holley_retrobright%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf5d6ac7e017441c78a6008 > dac78dc489%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638041708957423 > 600%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FAInkV4a%2Bp0Is8iG29q > %2BIIUiLgmNO1SuoIYVfKV81yg%3D&reserved=0 > The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One important > consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are much > deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera headlight > bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right into > any classic car, so they will fit..... > Mike > Sent from my iPad >>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso >> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is > reasonably priced? >> >> Thanks >> >>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com> wrote: >>> >>> Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to Halogen or > LED? >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> > [2]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fser > ver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=05%7C01%7 > C%7Cf5d6ac7e017441c78a6008dac78dc489%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa > %7C1%7C0%7C638041708957423600%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&s > data=2wApr0BYL48c7L2zHS6o641maGStIUbV4iwWrxcOI6E%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. A very very sad aircraft collision. The loss of life is tragic. Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual contact of the B-17. The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside of the display "race track". The video appears to show that the P-63 was inside and tight of the track on the approach to the display line.. As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the wing - severing the B-17. The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the "Mighty" 8th AF. B. Goyaniuk Pilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote: Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most: "What caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?" __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Christopher Kimball <[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:18 PM To: MICHAEL DREW <[3]mikeldrew at aol.com> Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney <[6]dan at excaliburre.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when Milk Duds were 5 cents per box...:)" ________________________________ From: MICHAEL DREW <[7]mikeldrew at aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM To: Christopher Kimball <[8]chrisvkimball at msn.com> Cc: Lashdeep Singh <[9]lashdeep at yahoo.com>; [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney <[12]dan at excaliburre.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? Chris, True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights were that much or more at one time.... Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball <[13]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote: > > Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't cheap! > Chris > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable > smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> > Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: Lashdeep Singh <[15]lashdeep at yahoo.com> > Cc: [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney > <[17]dan at excaliburre.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option? > > Lashdeep, > Check out this page: > [1][18]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Fww > w.holley.com%2Fblog%2Fpost%2Fhow_to_convert_your_car_to_led_headlights_ > with_holley_retrobright%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf5d6ac7e017441c78a6008 > dac78dc489%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638041708957423 > 600%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FAInkV4a%2Bp0Is8iG29q > %2BIIUiLgmNO1SuoIYVfKV81yg%3D&reserved=0 > The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One important > consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are much > deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera headlight > bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right into > any classic car, so they will fit..... > Mike > Sent from my iPad >>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso >> <[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is > reasonably priced? >> >> Thanks >> >>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney <[20]dan at excaliburre.com> wrote: >>> >>> Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to Halogen or > LED? >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>> DeTomaso mailing list >>> [21]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >>> > [2][22]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2 Fser > ver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=05%7C01%7 > C%7Cf5d6ac7e017441c78a6008dac78dc489%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa > %7C1%7C0%7C638041708957423600%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&s > data=2wApr0BYL48c7L2zHS6o641maGStIUbV4iwWrxcOI6E%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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It seemed to me the P-63 was traveling way too fast and completely away
from the display track the other planes were taking.
I still can't believe this accident happened and I keep thinking
perhaps the P-63 pilot had a medical emergency.
RIP to the pilots and condolences to their families.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: The Goyaniuks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 11/16/22 9:52 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>, Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Non-Pcar: Plane crash. B-17 & P-63
A very very sad aircraft collision.The loss of life is tragic.
Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual
contact of the B-17.The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside
of the display "race track".The video appears to show that the P-63 was
inside and tight of the track on the approach to the display line..
As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the
wing - severing the B-17.
The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The
B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the
"Mighty" 8th AF.
B. GoyaniukPilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most:
"What
caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?"
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:18 PM
To: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney
<dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when Milk
Duds were 5 cents per box...:)"
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From: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM
To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Cc: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Chris,
True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive
compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights
were
that much or more at one time....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't
cheap!
> Chris
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
> smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney
> <dan at excaliburre.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
>
> Lashdeep,
> Check out this page:
>
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> The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One important
> consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are
much
> deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera
headlight
> bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right
into
> any classic car, so they will fit.....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is
> reasonably priced?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to Halogen
or
> LED?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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A very very sad aircraft collision.
The loss of life is tragic.
Probably the P-63 King Cobra, being a low wing aircraft lost visual
contact of the B-17.
The B-17 was at a lower altitude and to the outside of the display
"race track".
The video appears to show that the P-63 was inside and tight of the
track on the approach to the display line..
As such, the P-63 collided into the B-17's fuselage just aft of the
wing - severing the B-17.
The P-63 is a WWII fighter aircraft much faster than the B-17. The
B-17 is a WWII bomber used mainly in the European theatre by the
"Mighty" 8th AF.
B. Goyaniuk
Pilot and, of course, a proud DeTomaso owner
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:38:23 p.m. EST, Bill Lewis
<lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the change, but this is probably of interest to most:
"What
caused the two-plane (WWII planes) crash in Dallas recently?"
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From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Christopher Kimball <[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:18 PM
To: MICHAEL DREW <[3]mikeldrew at aol.com>
Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Dan Courtney
<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
I guess my inner "old codger" is setting in... "I remember when
Milk
Duds were 5 cents per box...:)"
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From: MICHAEL DREW <[7]mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:59 AM
To: Christopher Kimball <[8]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Cc: Lashdeep Singh <[9]lashdeep at yahoo.com>;
[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
Dan Courtney <[12]dan at excaliburre.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
Chris,
True quality is never cheap. But $200 each is far from expensive
compared to what has gone before. Recall that good halogen lights
were
that much or more at one time....
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 06:40, Christopher Kimball
<[13]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Those look great, but at $400 per pair they certainly ain't
cheap!
> Chris
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
> smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Date: 11/15/22 8:48 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Lashdeep Singh <[15]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Cc: [16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, Dan Courtney
> <[17]dan at excaliburre.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New LED Headlight Option?
>
> Lashdeep,
> Check out this page:
>
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> The videos do a good job of showing how they work. One
important
> consideration is depth. Some aftermarket 7-inch LED lights are
much
> deeper than sealed beam lights, and may not fit in a Pantera
headlight
> bucket. These Holley lights are specifically made to plug right
into
> any classic car, so they will fit.....
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 16:15, Lashdeep Singh via DeTomaso
>> <[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone tried a good plug and play LED headlight that is
> reasonably priced?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 18:38, Dan Courtney
<[20]dan at excaliburre.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Larry are these the headlight relays for conversion to
Halogen
or
> LED?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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