[DeTomaso] Radiator

B Hower b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
Sat May 21 21:52:07 EDT 2022 

 I have had outer timing ring slip 30 degrees on a 351C. A long story of x- wife bringing car to me after someone tuned it and it did not run to please.

    On Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:18:56 AM CDT, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:  
 
   Overheating in a normal afternoon drive, or in traffic, or at high
  speeds?
  Could your timing be retarded by bad timing marks or?  I think that can
  cause overheating.

  On Saturday, May 21, 2022, 07:24:49 AM PDT, Eric Smith via DeTomaso
  <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
  I did install a plate for the bypass thatas under the thermostat.  I
  bought it from Pantera Performance back in 1990ish and was one of the
  first things done to try and keep it from overheating.  It had a penny
  soldered in the hole, completely blocking the bypass.  It made no
  difference at all.  Tried all the correct thermostats with different
  opening temps, and even no thermostat, but no luck.  I focused on air
  in the system after that but it still overheated.  Bought an aluminum
  radiator with puller fans from Pantera Performance, then installed the
  vents in the hood and it still overheated.  Installed a high volume
  aluminum water pump and it seemed to take longer to overheat but still
  would overheat.  I replaced the water pipes with a larger water pipe,
  that looks like shit, but I was desperate, and again, it took longer to
  overheat but still eventually did, even on a cool day.  Sent it to a
  radiator shop and he came to the conclusion that the engine needed to
  be rebuilt.  Mainly because he couldnat find any reason for
  overheating.  So thatas what I did.  Stock rebuild and open chamber
  heads, and it still overheated.  This was back in 1991-92.  The head
  gaskets were installed correctly and the block and heads were inspected
  for scaling, then hot tanked.

  Since a much stronger engine is about to be installed, Iam thinking I
  need the best cooling system possible so I donat have to worry about it
  anymore.
  Sent from my iPhone
  > On May 21, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Eric Smith <[1]ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com>
  wrote:
  >
  > i>>?
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On May 20, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Scott Mead Photography
  <[2]scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> i>>?Hi Eric,
  >>
  >> A couple years ago, Don Byars installed one of Hallas lay down,
  brass radiators (with sucker fans) in my car. The acid test on my way
  home was a couple of hours of bumper-to-bumper traffic, in 102ADEG heat
  with the AC blasting. My temp gauge never got above 185ADEG. Driving to
  and from this yearas Fun Rally, the needle on the temp gauge hardly
  moved a few degrees from cruise to stopped in traffic. I truly canat
  say enough good things about this setup, and I no longer have my eyes
  glued to the temp gauge - ever!!!
  >>
  >> Have a great weekend,
  >>
  >> Scott
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >>>> On May 20, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Eric Smith via DeTomaso
  <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
  >>>
  >>> i>>?About to install the drivetrain in my 71.  I had overheating
  issues since Iave owned the car, but itas been 30 yrs since it was last
  on the road.  What is the best cooling system made to make sure this
  issue never happens again?
  >>>
  >>> Sent from my iPhone
  >>> _______________________________________________
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
  >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
  >>> DeTomaso mailing list
  >>> [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  >>> [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  >>>
  >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
  etc.) use the links above.
  >>>
  >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
  any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
  or approve the archiving of list messages.
  >>
  _______________________________________________
  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
  DeTomaso mailing list
  [6]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
  use the links above.
  Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
  message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
  or approve the archiving of list messages.

References

  1. mailto:ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com
  2. mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com
  3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  4. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  6. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
_______________________________________________


Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
DeTomaso mailing list
DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.

Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.  
-------------- next part --------------
   I have had outer timing ring slip 30 degrees on a 351C. A long story of
   x- wife bringing car to me after someone tuned it and it did not run to
   please.

   On Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:18:56 AM CDT, Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Overheating in a normal afternoon drive, or in traffic, or at high
     speeds?
     Could your timing be retarded by bad timing marks or?  I think that
   can
     cause overheating.
     On Saturday, May 21, 2022, 07:24:49 AM PDT, Eric Smith via DeTomaso
     <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     I did install a plate for the bypass thatas under the thermostat.  I
     bought it from Pantera Performance back in 1990ish and was one of the
     first things done to try and keep it from overheating.  It had a
   penny
     soldered in the hole, completely blocking the bypass.  It made no
     difference at all.  Tried all the correct thermostats with different
     opening temps, and even no thermostat, but no luck.  I focused on air
     in the system after that but it still overheated.  Bought an aluminum
     radiator with puller fans from Pantera Performance, then installed
   the
     vents in the hood and it still overheated.  Installed a high volume
     aluminum water pump and it seemed to take longer to overheat but
   still
     would overheat.  I replaced the water pipes with a larger water pipe,
     that looks like shit, but I was desperate, and again, it took longer
   to
     overheat but still eventually did, even on a cool day.  Sent it to a
     radiator shop and he came to the conclusion that the engine needed to
     be rebuilt.  Mainly because he couldnat find any reason for
     overheating.  So thatas what I did.  Stock rebuild and open chamber
     heads, and it still overheated.  This was back in 1991-92.  The head
     gaskets were installed correctly and the block and heads were
   inspected
     for scaling, then hot tanked.
     Since a much stronger engine is about to be installed, Iam thinking I
     need the best cooling system possible so I donat have to worry about
   it
     anymore.
     Sent from my iPhone
     > On May 21, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Eric Smith
   <[1][2]ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com>
     wrote:
     >
     > i>>?
     >
     > Sent from my iPhone
     >
     >> On May 20, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Scott Mead Photography
     <[2][3]scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
     >>
     >> i>>?Hi Eric,
     >>
     >> A couple years ago, Don Byars installed one of Hallas lay down,
     brass radiators (with sucker fans) in my car. The acid test on my way
     home was a couple of hours of bumper-to-bumper traffic, in 102ADEG
   heat
     with the AC blasting. My temp gauge never got above 185ADEG. Driving
   to
     and from this yearas Fun Rally, the needle on the temp gauge hardly
     moved a few degrees from cruise to stopped in traffic. I truly canat
     say enough good things about this setup, and I no longer have my eyes
     glued to the temp gauge - ever!!!
     >>
     >> Have a great weekend,
     >>
     >> Scott
     >>
     >> Sent from my iPhone
     >>
     >>>> On May 20, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Eric Smith via DeTomaso
     <[3][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     >>>
     >>> i>>?About to install the drivetrain in my 71.  I had overheating
     issues since Iave owned the car, but itas been 30 yrs since it was
   last
     on the road.  What is the best cooling system made to make sure this
     issue never happens again?
     >>>
     >>> Sent from my iPhone
     >>> _______________________________________________
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
     >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     >>> DeTomaso mailing list
     >>> [4][5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     >>> [5][6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
     >>>
     >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
     etc.) use the links above.
     >>>
     >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to
   forward
     any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
   the
     list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
   archive
     or approve the archiving of list messages.
     >>
     _______________________________________________
     Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
     Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
     DeTomaso mailing list
     [6][7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     [7][8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
     To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
     use the links above.
     Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
   any
     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
     list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
   archive
     or approve the archiving of list messages.
   References
     1. mailto:[9]ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com
     2. mailto:[10]scott at scottmeadphotography.com
     3. mailto:[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     4. mailto:[12]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     5. [13]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
     6. mailto:[14]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     7. [15]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   _______________________________________________
   Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   DeTomaso mailing list
   [16]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   [17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
   use the links above.
   Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any
   message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
   list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
   or approve the archiving of list messages.

References

   1. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   2. mailto:ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com
   3. mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   5. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   9. mailto:ericjsmith7 at yahoo.com
  10. mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

More information about the DeTomaso mailing list