[DeTomaso] Hall radiator fans needed - CoolCat Fans

Garth Rodericks garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Fri May 13 17:20:01 EDT 2022 

Interesting…. That’s new information from when I talked to him in 2006/7.  And his prices have apparently gone up significantly in the last 15 years. 

I guess the search continues!


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Garth,
> 
> got this from the would-be buyer:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Well, I talked to the guy at CoolCat. The fan motor is designed to use as a sucker fan. It vents out the back of the motor. If you move it in front of the radiator and use as a pusher, those vents are exposed to rain, etc. He says you need to cut a piece of sheet metal into a rain shield to protect those vents. The motors are about $100 each with shipping. Fans are about $30 each. So about $260 or so for a system that would have a homemade shield. Not sure I’m feeling that look. He’s going to send some pictures. 
> 
> ———
> 
> Close but no cigar? Still hoping to find some good used Hall fans for him….
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 2:58 pm
> Subject: Hall radiator fans needed - CoolCat Fans
> 
> Forget the crappy heavy Hall Mariah fans, or even old anemic stock fans.  Upgrade to an inexpensive pair of CoolCat fans!
> 
> 
> The CoolCat fans are very popular with the Jaguar crowd. They are inexpensive, especially compared to Mariah fans, and have the same form factor as the original Lucas fan motors, so they'll mount directly in the stock location on your Pantera.
> 
> 
> https://www.coolcatcorp.com/product/CoolCatFan38.html
> 
> 
> 
> Note that you need to call and talk to Mike Frank (he's who helped me) to place your order. The website doesn't list the motors by themselves without the blades (wrong size for a Pantera) or the mounting brackets (which you don't need), but Mike will quote you a price for just the 2 motors you need.
> 
> 
> And while you're at it, if you still have the 4-bladed fans, it's time to upgrade them to a fan that actually moves air.
> 
> 
> I mounted two of these CoolCat motors into my Pantera in 2007 and they work great!  Dimensions are identical to the original Lucas motors. The Coolcat motor is 3" in diameter and should fit anywhere a Lucas motor was mounted. However, it will not accept a Lucas blade because the shaft is thicker. I encountered this when mounting my Cortina blades, but I merely drilled them out a hair to fit the slightly larger shaft, and I added a set-screw from an old set of Flex-A-Lite fans I had laying around.
> 
> Contact Mike Frank at CoolCat to get a price on a pair of fan motors WITHOUT fan blades or the mounting plate shown in the pic. You can buy pusher blades relatively inexpensively elsewhere online, and the Pantera already has the mounting for the motors.
> 
> Replacement fan blades are readily available. I believe the Cortina fan blades (The Cortina 8-blade fans and their steel adapters were listed in the Gr-3 & Gr-4 Supplemental Parts Lists for Europe) are 10" diameter and they fit within the stock fan shroud, and the Flex-a-Lite blades Hall sells with the Mariah pusher fans are 12" since they don't use the original fan shrouds.
> 
> The GR-3/GR-4 (Cortina) fan blades may still be available from the vendors. I don't see them on Hall's site, but they are on Wilkinson's site (Item #70 in the diagram below). Note that you need item #'s 69,71 & 74 as well to mount the Cortina/Pantera GR4 blades:
> 
> 
> 
> https://panterapartsusa.myshopify.com/products/11052A
> 
> 
> You can check out all the replacement fan blades from Flex-a-Lite here:
> https://flex-a-lite.com/accessories/replacement-parts-2.html
> 
> 
> Here are a few 10" and 12" fans...
> 
> https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
> 
> https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
> 
> https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-3.html
> 
> https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
> 
> This is the style Hall provides with the Mariah fans:
> https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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   Interesting.... That's new information from when I talked to him in
   2006/7.  And his prices have apparently gone up significantly in the
   last 15 years.

   I guess the search continues!

   Sent from my iPhone

     On May 12, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:

   Garth,
   got this from the would-be buyer:
   Mike,
   Well, I talked to the guy at CoolCat. The fan motor is designed to use
   as a sucker fan. It vents out the back of the motor. If you move it in
   front of the radiator and use as a pusher, those vents are exposed to
   rain, etc. He says you need to cut a piece of sheet metal into a rain
   shield to protect those vents. The motors are about $100 each with
   shipping. Fans are about $30 each. So about $260 or so for a system
   that would have a homemade shield. Not sure I'm feeling that look. He's
   going to send some pictures.
   ------
   Close but no cigar? Still hoping to find some good used Hall fans for
   him....
   Mike
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; DeTomaso Mail List
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 2:58 pm
   Subject: Hall radiator fans needed - CoolCat Fans
   Forget the crappy heavy Hall Mariah fans, or even old anemic stock
   fans.  Upgrade to an inexpensive pair of CoolCat fans!
   The CoolCat fans are very popular with the Jaguar crowd. They are
   inexpensive, especially compared to Mariah fans, and have the same form
   factor as the original Lucas fan motors, so they'll mount directly in
   the stock location on your Pantera.
   [1]https://www.coolcatcorp.com/product/CoolCatFan38.html
   1652296885717blob.jpg
   Note that you need to call and talk to Mike Frank (he's who helped me)
   to place your order. The website doesn't list the motors by themselves
   without the blades (wrong size for a Pantera) or the mounting brackets
   (which you don't need), but Mike will quote you a price for just the 2
   motors you need.
   And while you're at it, if you still have the 4-bladed fans, it's time
   to upgrade them to a fan that actually moves air.
   I mounted two of these CoolCat motors into my Pantera in 2007 and they
   work great!  Dimensions are identical to the original Lucas motors. The
   Coolcat motor is 3" in diameter and should fit anywhere a Lucas motor
   was mounted. However, it will not accept a Lucas blade because the
   shaft is thicker. I encountered this when mounting my Cortina blades,
   but I merely drilled them out a hair to fit the slightly larger shaft,
   and I added a set-screw from an old set of Flex-A-Lite fans I had
   laying around.
   Contact Mike Frank at CoolCat to get a price on a pair of fan motors
   WITHOUT fan blades or the mounting plate shown in the pic. You can buy
   pusher blades relatively inexpensively elsewhere online, and the
   Pantera already has the mounting for the motors.
   Replacement fan blades are readily available. I believe the Cortina fan
   blades (The Cortina 8-blade fans and their steel adapters were listed
   in the Gr-3 & Gr-4 Supplemental Parts Lists for Europe) are 10"
   diameter and they fit within the stock fan shroud, and the Flex-a-Lite
   blades Hall sells with the Mariah pusher fans are 12" since they don't
   use the original fan shrouds.
   The GR-3/GR-4 (Cortina) fan blades may still be available from the
   vendors. I don't see them on Hall's site, but they are on Wilkinson's
   site (Item #70 in the diagram below). Note that you need item #'s 69,71
   & 74 as well to mount the Cortina/Pantera GR4 blades:
   [ill18c.gif]
   [11052A_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1455674174]
   [2]https://panterapartsusa.myshopify.com/products/11052A
   You can check out all the replacement fan blades from Flex-a-Lite here:
   [3]https://flex-a-lite.com/accessories/replacement-parts-2.html
   Here are a few 10" and 12" fans...
   [4]https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
   [5]https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
   [6]https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-3.html
   [7]https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
   This is the style Hall provides with the Mariah fans:
   [8]https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
   1652296885717blob.jpg

References

   1. https://www.coolcatcorp.com/product/CoolCatFan38.html
   2. https://panterapartsusa.myshopify.com/products/11052A
   3. https://flex-a-lite.com/accessories/replacement-parts-2.html
   4. https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
   5. https://flex-a-lite.com/10-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
   6. https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-3.html
   7. https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-1.html
   8. https://flex-a-lite.com/12-inch-replacement-fan-blade-2.html
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