[DeTomaso] Hand controls Pantera?
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue May 10 11:04:22 EDT 2022
Ron did his conversion many years ago, electronic or ultra shift clutch options have come a long way, many big rigs are now 3 pedal ultra shift, so I'm betting there's a number of modern electronic clutch actuator kits available, couple examples;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHghH71LclQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQU_Nj7OX5s
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hand controls Pantera?
This is better, the other is just a vacuum canister.
http://www.2040-parts.com/mitsubishi-3000gt-stealth-clutch-booster-pedal-assembly-i648845/
Jeff 2467
> On 05/09/2022 3:40 PM Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>
>
> Last time I talked with him he was complaining because they would not give him back his guns, or his driver's license. He was a retired Sheriff.
>
> He could not push down the stock clutch but he said the dual Disk version was just fine for him, until they took away his license with 2 or 3 high performance cars in his garage including the GT-5 clone Pantera. I haven't seen that Pantera come up for sale anywhere, so I suppose he is still getting his groceries in it.
> Larry
>
>
> On 5/9/22, 3:30 PM, "MICHAEL DREW" <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> That was Jay Leone, a badass of the highest order. Still driving and working on his Pantera into his 90s, ten years ago at the age of 92 the WWII Marine vet surprised a burglar in his house who held him hostage. He feigned needing to use the restroom, and pulled a 357 Magnum he kept hidden behind his toilet (as all reasonable people do). He engaged the thug in a gunfight and shot him multiple times, while taking a bullet himself in his jaw.
>
> Both survived.
>
> Being California, the thug then attempted to sue him for shooting back at him! His suit was dismissed and he was convicted on a cornaplethora of charges.
>
> Jay recovered and was still driving his Pantera the last time I spoke with him, when he was 95 I think.
>
> I haven’t heard from him since, and he would be 102 now if he was still around?
>
> Getting back to the issue at hand, I don’t think a conventional clutch of any style will work. The owner was in a hospital bed, unable to walk when he hopefully bought his car many months ago. He has since recovered partially but not fully. So an unconventional solution is required.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2022, at 15:01, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> > The Dual Disk clutch might be the answer, we did one for the 5 time 93 year old Pantera owner in Marin, I can’t remember his name (which is shameful of me as well), but you probably can.
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 5/9/22, 2:48 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I know several owners have converted their cars over to use power-assisted clutches, including at least one super fellow in Oregon who was in a wheelchair and successfully modified his car on his own. For the life of me I can’t remember his name (which is shameful of me), but I think it was documented extensively in the POCA newsletter.
> >
> > Jim Demick and I are working together to help a fellow from overseas for whom Pantera ownership was a bucket list item. He bought a super duper car which is currently at Jim’s house. He flew over to see it for the first time and due to his handicap he absolutely can’t depress the clutch (which is a standard clutch). The so-called “effort reduction kit” used on the later cars actually increases effort in the beginning of clutch travel, so that won’t work either.
> >
> > He either converts to power clutch master, or has to sell the car.
> >
> > Please help me help him!
> >
> > Mike
> >
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Ron did his conversion many years ago, electronic or ultra shift clutch
options have come a long way, many big rigs are now 3 pedal ultra
shift, so I'm betting there's a number of modern electronic clutch
actuator kits available, couple examples;
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHghH71LclQ
[2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQU_Nj7OX5s
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Jeff Kimball <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 7:45 AM
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>; MICHAEL DREW
<mikeldrew at aol.com>
Cc: De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hand controls Pantera?
This is better, the other is just a vacuum canister.
[3]http://www.2040-parts.com/mitsubishi-3000gt-stealth-clutch-booster-p
edal-assembly-i648845/
Jeff 2467
> On 05/09/2022 3:40 PM Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>
>
> Last time I talked with him he was complaining because they would not
give him back his guns, or his driver's license. He was a retired
Sheriff.
>
> He could not push down the stock clutch but he said the dual Disk
version was just fine for him, until they took away his license with 2
or 3 high performance cars in his garage including the GT-5 clone
Pantera. I haven't seen that Pantera come up for sale anywhere, so I
suppose he is still getting his groceries in it.
> Larry
>
>
> On 5/9/22, 3:30 PM, "MICHAEL DREW" <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> That was Jay Leone, a badass of the highest order. Still driving
and working on his Pantera into his 90s, ten years ago at the age of 92
the WWII Marine vet surprised a burglar in his house who held him
hostage. He feigned needing to use the restroom, and pulled a 357
Magnum he kept hidden behind his toilet (as all reasonable people do).
He engaged the thug in a gunfight and shot him multiple times, while
taking a bullet himself in his jaw.
>
> Both survived.
>
> Being California, the thug then attempted to sue him for shooting
back at him! His suit was dismissed and he was convicted on a
cornaplethora of charges.
>
> Jay recovered and was still driving his Pantera the last time I
spoke with him, when he was 95 I think.
>
> I haven't heard from him since, and he would be 102 now if he was
still around?
>
> Getting back to the issue at hand, I don't think a conventional
clutch of any style will work. The owner was in a hospital bed, unable
to walk when he hopefully bought his car many months ago. He has since
recovered partially but not fully. So an unconventional solution is
required.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2022, at 15:01, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> > The Dual Disk clutch might be the answer, we did one for the 5
time 93 year old Pantera owner in Marin, I can't remember his name
(which is shameful of me as well), but you probably can.
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 5/9/22, 2:48 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via
DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I know several owners have converted their cars over to use
power-assisted clutches, including at least one super fellow in Oregon
who was in a wheelchair and successfully modified his car on his own.
For the life of me I can't remember his name (which is shameful of me),
but I think it was documented extensively in the POCA newsletter.
> >
> > Jim Demick and I are working together to help a fellow from
overseas for whom Pantera ownership was a bucket list item. He bought a
super duper car which is currently at Jim's house. He flew over to see
it for the first time and due to his handicap he absolutely can't
depress the clutch (which is a standard clutch). The so-called "effort
reduction kit" used on the later cars actually increases effort in the
beginning of clutch travel, so that won't work either.
> >
> > He either converts to power clutch master, or has to sell
the car.
> >
> > Please help me help him!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQU_Nj7OX5s
3. http://www.2040-parts.com/mitsubishi-3000gt-stealth-clutch-booster-pedal-assembly-i648845/
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