[DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
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FWIW,. I have long used hardware store concrete etch for cleaning inside steel fuel tanks. Ideally, the tank is out of the car so it can be 'sloshed' or shaken while about 20% full of a weak acid. In my choice, it's a dilute phosphoric acid solution used to clean and prep concrete. It's advantage is, the residue left after an overnight stay in the tank and a thorough rinse is an insoluble white coating of iron phosphate. I also use this on really bad tanks that need welding repairs.
Most if not all of the other weak acid residues are water soluble, so they go away from contact with further atmospheric moisture. This leaves the now unprotected steel even more vulnerable to rust. Another factor is, most humans are not sensitive to the weak acids, but no guarantees: somewhere, there is someone that's allergic to ANYTHING. So be reasonably careful not to get any on you or your clothes.
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
I used a kit from Eastwood:
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 04:04:31 AM PDT, Will Kooiman
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From: randy <[2]randy at oldboat.net>
Date: Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:51 PM
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J'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Sorry about that, I get excited about helping and forget that most
of
you have been there and done that.
Good reminder to check the tank in my new (old) Pantera
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Date: 3/21/22 6:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [8]randy at oldboat.net, 'Roland J' <[9]willibillie at live.de>
Cc: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Yep, I know about all that.
I was mostly just letting everyone know that unless you've taken care
of it, you probably have a lot of rust in your tank too.
I was surprised by how much, though.
On 3/20/22, 3:55 PM, "[11]randy at oldboat.net" <[12]randy at oldboat.net>
wrote:
One other option is 30% vinegar. Farm supply stores and Amazon
have it. Same instructions although the heat can be anything over 65
F. One of the auto blogs suggested added salt to the vinegar, I
haven't needed to do that, so take it with a grain of, well, you know
what.
Works great on garden tools and any other small parts that need
rust removal.
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From: Roland J <[13]willibillie at live.de>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 8:02 AM
To: Will Kooiman <[14]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: [15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Fill the tank with water and 20% citric acid. Heat it with an
imersion heater thru the hole for the tank sender for about eight
hours. All rust and debris will be gone. After flush it well with
water, let it dry and you are done.
> Am 20.03.2022 um 13:56 schrieb Will Kooiman
<[16]will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
>
> Years ago, I changed my fuel tank to pull from the drain
plug,
through
> a big external filter, and then to the fuel pump. It all
tucks
up
> neatly, and allows me to periodically clean the filter. I
made
this
> change, because the original siphon tube had become plugged by
the fuel
> sock and rust.
>
>
> See the attached. That isn't gold. It's rust dust. I had
about half
> a shot glass in the filter. It's hard to see in the photo how
much is
> there.
>
>
> This filter can handle it. It's about 2" in diameter and
about
5"
> long. This type of filter is a tube with the steel mesh
filter
in the
> middle. It is arranged to trap the rust outside the mesh.
Heavier
> particles can sink to the bottom.
>
>
> If I could turn back time (like Cher) to when I had the tank
out
> several years ago, I would switch to a stainless tank.
>
>
> Will.
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FWIW,. I have long used hardware store concrete etch for cleaning
inside steel fuel tanks. Ideally, the tank is out of the car so it can
be 'sloshed' or shaken while about 20% full of a weak acid. In my
choice, it's a dilute phosphoric acid solution used to clean and prep
concrete. It's advantage is, the residue left after an overnight stay
in the tank and a thorough rinse is an insoluble white coating of iron
phosphate. I also use this on really bad tanks that need welding
repairs.
Most if not all of the other weak acid residues are water soluble, so
they go away from contact with further atmospheric moisture. This
leaves the now unprotected steel even more vulnerable to rust. Another
factor is, most humans are not sensitive to the weak acids, but no
guarantees: somewhere, there is someone that's allergic to ANYTHING. So
be reasonably careful not to get any on you or your clothes.
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To: randy <randy at oldboat.net>; 'Roland J' <willibillie at live.de>; Will
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Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2022 8:03 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
I used a kit from Eastwood:
[1]Search results for: 'gas%20tank%20sealer%20kits'
Search results for: 'gas%20tank%20sealer%20kits'
The Eastwood Company provides unique automotive tools and supplies,
as
well as expert advice and solutions, for ...
On Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 04:04:31 AM PDT, Will Kooiman
<[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
No need to "sorry". That's what I love so much about this list.
It's
a wealth of information that is freely shared.
From: randy <[2][2]randy at oldboat.net>
Date: Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:51 PM
To: "[3][3]will.kooiman at gmail.com" <[4][4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
'Roland
J'
<[5][5]willibillie at live.de>
Cc: <[6][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Sorry about that, I get excited about helping and forget that most
of
you have been there and done that.
Good reminder to check the tank in my new (old) Pantera
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: Will Kooiman <[7][7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Date: 3/21/22 6:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [8][8]randy at oldboat.net, 'Roland J' <[9][9]willibillie at live.de>
Cc: [10][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Yep, I know about all that.
I was mostly just letting everyone know that unless you've taken
care
of it, you probably have a lot of rust in your tank too.
I was surprised by how much, though.
On 3/20/22, 3:55 PM, "[11][11]randy at oldboat.net"
<[12][12]randy at oldboat.net>
wrote:
One other option is 30% vinegar. Farm supply stores and Amazon
have it. Same instructions although the heat can be anything over
65
F. One of the auto blogs suggested added salt to the vinegar, I
haven't needed to do that, so take it with a grain of, well, you
know
what.
Works great on garden tools and any other small parts that need
rust removal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roland J <[13][13]willibillie at live.de>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 8:02 AM
To: Will Kooiman <[14][14]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: [15][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rust in Tank
Fill the tank with water and 20% citric acid. Heat it with an
imersion heater thru the hole for the tank sender for about eight
hours. All rust and debris will be gone. After flush it well with
water, let it dry and you are done.
> Am 20.03.2022 um 13:56 schrieb Will Kooiman
<[16][16]will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
>
> Years ago, I changed my fuel tank to pull from the drain
plug,
through
> a big external filter, and then to the fuel pump. It all
tucks
up
> neatly, and allows me to periodically clean the filter. I
made
this
> change, because the original siphon tube had become plugged
by
the fuel
> sock and rust.
>
>
> See the attached. That isn't gold. It's rust dust. I had
about half
> a shot glass in the filter. It's hard to see in the photo
how
much is
> there.
>
>
> This filter can handle it. It's about 2" in diameter and
about
5"
> long. This type of filter is a tube with the steel mesh
filter
in the
> middle. It is arranged to trap the rust outside the mesh.
Heavier
> particles can sink to the bottom.
>
>
> If I could turn back time (like Cher) to when I had the tank
out
> several years ago, I would switch to a stainless tank.
>
>
> Will.
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