[DeTomaso] REPLACMENT CARB ?

Rich Hoppe richbhoppe at gmail.com
Tue Jan 25 17:45:04 EST 2022


Bud
What rpm do you run.
To me a carb is sized to  how high of an rpm you expect to run at.
I always ran a 750 Holley and would rev to 6500rpms.  It ran good.
If you don’t run that high you can go to a smaller carb.
Rich

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:19 PM, B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>    Hi Ian,
>   I may be a little "Old School" but, I run a 600cfm Holley on an
>   Edelbrock F351 4V. I have done some road racing and cross country
>   street trips. I have GPS recorded 157 mph with that set up on a .030
>   overbore, hydraulic lifters, 68cc closed chamber heads, an Isky 431282
>   cam and roller rockers. I am happy with the all around performance.
>   Just for a reverence,
>   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be!
>   )
> 
>   On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 02:59:13 PM CST, Will Kooiman
>   <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>   Hi Ian,
>   As Ken said, you need to solve the spreadbore vs. squarebore problem
>   first.  If you're running a stock intake, you need an adapter to run a
>   squarebore carburetor.  Or, you can change the manifold too - as most
>   people do.
>   Hot Rod Engine Masters did a comparison between cheap and expensive
>   carburetors.  They essentially found no difference in performance.  The
>   only notable difference was the Edelbrock carburetor made less power,
>   but they said that was likely due to the way they were rated.  An
>   Edelbrock 600cfm carburetor very likely flows less than a 600cfm
>   Holley.  In other words, the power difference wasn't due to the design,
>   but rather due to the flow ratings.
>   So, you're really buying a carburetor based on size, looks, and ease of
>   tuning.
>   I wouldn't personally run anything smaller than a 650cfm on a 351C, and
>   honestly, I'd probably run a 750DP - model# 4779 - even on a stock
>   351C.  A smaller carburetor might have better throttle response, but
>   "It has a 750 double-pumper" sounds more manly than "It has a 650."
>   Plus, when you decide to add a larger cam or do other mods, the 750DP
>   can handle the airflow - so room for growth.
>   Some PNs:
>   Manual Choke 650DP    0-4777C
>   No Choke 750DP    0-80528-2    <-- what I would run
>   Manual Choke 750DP    0-4779C
>   I'm not saying I'm right.  This is just my opinion.  And you'll likely
>   get several of them on a subject like this.
>   Will.
>   i>>?On 1/25/22, 3:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack DeRyke via
>   DeTomaso" <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>   [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>         For a long time, the carb of choice for mostly-stock Panteras was
>   the
>         600 cfm vacuum-secondary Holley 1850. Since that was in the
>   previous
>         century and Holley has been sold twice, plus the SMOG lawbooks
>   are now
>         hundreds of pages long, not sure what the 2022 analog of that
>   carb is.
>         But a few of Holley's later offerings were designed to be smog
>         compliant in CA and as such, were only narrowly tunable if you
>   got the
>         urge to adjust later. Holley's Avenger series was one such to be
>         avoided. If you're stubborn and persistent, there are places in
>   the US
>         that will work on your Motorcraft 4300-D (fewer still will touch
>   the
>         even earlier Autolite). Maybe the early Mustang Club has info.
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Larry Weston <[3]lplugw at hotmail.com>
>         To: Detomaso List <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Ian
>   Deffebach
>         <[5]flatbeds78 at yahoo.com>; Ken Green <[6]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>         Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2022 8:31 am
>         Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] REPLACMENT CARB ?
>           most importantly, are you going to use the stock spread bore
>   manifold
>           or change out to a square bore manifold?
> 
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>           To: Detomaso List <[3][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Ian
>         Deffebach
>           <[4][10]flatbeds78 at yahoo.com>
>           Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] REPLACMENT CARB ?
>           Probably depends on use and the rest of the engine, original
>   cam,
>         etc.
>               On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 08:10:59 AM PST, Ian
>   Deffebach via
>           DeTomaso <[5][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>               Do you know what the carb of choice is when replacing the
>         original
>             Motorcraft on a 74 ? Holley Avenger ? what CFM ? Model # ?
>             Ian Deffebach
>             Owner, Deffebach Trucking
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