[DeTomaso] Tire question
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Get Denny to roll your fendersCheersBill MooreCalgary / Goodyear 403.860.4300
-------- Original message --------From: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com> Date: 2022-02-28 6:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question So it sounds as if the 245 would be slightly lower profile, which I like, but would it be too wide to turn sharply without scraping?________________________________From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:53 PMTo: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire questionMore specifically a 245/50 tire is 245*50% = 122.5mm tire wall height or 4.8" therefore 15 + 2x4.8 = 24.65" total dia.Whereas 215/60 = 129mm tire wall height or 5.08" therefore 15 = 2x5.08 = 25.2" total dia.Julian________________________________From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:40 PMTo: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire questionChris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50 are more significant. They are the aspect ratio, height vs width. The 215 and 245 are the section width. So the 60 number is the important number.Jeffhttps://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE&techid=7&ef_id=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!351458717475!e!!g!!aspect%20ratio%20tire&gclsrc=aw.ds<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tirerack.com%2Ftires%2Ftiretech%2Ftechpage.jsp%3Fgclid%3DCjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE%26techid%3D7%26ef_id%3DCjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE%3AG%3As%26s_kwcid%3DAL!3756!3!351458717475!e!!g!!aspect%2520ratio%2520tire%26gclsrc%3Daw.ds&data=04%7C01%7C%7C341ba64ed2a043798a3508d9fb1de653%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637816928101218363%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=9nRuFw3yKJcvdMac1GMQpBc4IovV6J8X9EcnDK6XqBk%3D&reserved=0>On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com<mailto:ChrisVKimball at msn.com>> wrote:Hi Jeff,Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on the front. You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't that taller than a 215 60?Thanks,Chris________________________________From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AMTo: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>Cc: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire questionWhen I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except Avons.BACK: Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC. Look and handle great.FRONT: Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but they look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry, don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is balanced on the track.Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more details.Good to hear car coming along.Jeff6559On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote: I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15 replacement now has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed rating quoted as Z or Y. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM To: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question Hi everyone, I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a long while because my car has been undergoing an extensive restoration. Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return once again to the realm of the Pantera faithful. At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining brightly, and it appears my car should be done very soon. However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he took it for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost dangerous to corner! I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the years, and now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire question, which I'm sure has been dealt with already: Is it possible for me to find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50 15 (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)? I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes I need, but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that would be good. Thanks, I appreciate your help! Sincerely, Chris_______________________________________________Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCAPosted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=04%7C01%7C%7C341ba64ed2a043798a3508d9fb1de653%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637816928101218363%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Q44rVzZUOFsNjOCqPYhFa%2Bn5tsocq1H89YC6ZgqcxPc%3D&reserved=0>To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. So it sounds as if the 245 would be slightly lower profile, which I like, but would it be too wide to turn sharply without scraping? __________________________________________________________________ From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:53 PM To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com> Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question More specifically a 245/50 tire is 245*50% = 122.5mm tire wall height or 4.8" therefore 15 + 2x4.8 = 24.65" total dia. Whereas 215/60 = 129mm tire wall height or 5.08" therefore 15 = 2x5.08 = 25.2" total dia. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:40 PM To: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com> Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question Chris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50 are more significant. They are the aspect ratio, height vs width. The 215 and 245 are the section width. So the 60 number is the important number. Jeff [1]https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=CjwKCAiAg vKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoC MzMQAvD_BwE&techid=7&ef_id=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy 8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!3 51458717475!e!!g!!aspect%20ratio%20tire&gclsrc=aw.ds On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball <[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> wrote: Hi Jeff, Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on the front. You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't that taller than a 215 60? Thanks, Chris __________________________________________________________________ From: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com> Cc: Christopher Kimball <[5]chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except Avons. BACK: Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC. Look and handle great. FRONT: Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but they look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry, don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is balanced on the track. Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more details. Good to hear car coming along. Jeff 6559 On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15 replacement now has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed rating quoted as Z or Y. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Christopher Kimball <[9]chrisvkimball at msn.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM To: Pantera Owners Club of America <[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question Hi everyone, I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a long while because my car has been undergoing an extensive restoration. Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return once again to the realm of the Pantera faithful. At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining brightly, and it appears my car should be done very soon. However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he took it for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost dangerous to corner! I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the years, and now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire question, which I'm sure has been dealt with already: Is it possible for me to find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50 15 (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)? I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes I need, but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that would be good. Thanks, I appreciate your help! 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From: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Date: 2022-02-28 6:01 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Jeff Detrich
<jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
So it sounds as if the 245 would be slightly lower profile, which I
like, but would it be too wide to turn sharply without scraping?
________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:53 PM
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Christopher Kimball
<ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
More specifically a 245/50 tire is 245*50% = 122.5mm tire wall height
or 4.8" therefore 15 + 2x4.8 = 24.65" total dia.
Whereas 215/60 = 129mm tire wall height or 5.08" therefore 15 = 2x5.08
= 25.2" total dia.
Julian
________________________________
From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:40 PM
To: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; Pantera Owners Club of
America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
Chris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50 are
more significant. They are the aspect ratio, height vs width. The 215
and 245 are the section width. So the 60 number is the important
number.
Jeff
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball
<ChrisVKimball at msn.com<mailto:ChrisVKimball at msn.com>> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on
the front. You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't
that taller than a 215 60?
Thanks,
Chris
________________________________
From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
Cc: Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>; Pantera Owners
Club of America
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except Avons.
BACK: Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC. Look
and handle great.
FRONT: Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but they
look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too
tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry,
don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is
balanced on the track.
Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more details.
Good to hear car coming along.
Jeff
6559
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli
Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15 replacement now
has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed rating
quoted as Z or Y.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
Christopher Kimball
<chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
To: Pantera Owners Club of America
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om>>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
Hi everyone,
I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a long
while because my car has been undergoing an extensive restoration.
Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return once
again
to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining
brightly,
and it appears my car should be done very soon.
However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he took it
for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost
dangerous to corner!
I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the years, and
now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire
question,
which I'm sure has been dealt with already: Is it possible for me
to
find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50 15
(front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes I
need,
but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that would
be
good.
Thanks, I appreciate your help!
Sincerely,
Chris
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So it sounds as if the 245 would be slightly lower profile, which I
like, but would it be too wide to turn sharply without scraping?
__________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:53 PM
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Christopher Kimball
<ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
More specifically a 245/50 tire is 245*50% = 122.5mm tire wall
height
or 4.8" therefore 15 + 2x4.8 = 24.65" total dia.
Whereas 215/60 = 129mm tire wall height or 5.08" therefore 15 =
2x5.08
= 25.2" total dia.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:40 PM
To: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; Pantera Owners Club of
America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
Chris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50
are
more significant. They are the aspect ratio, height vs width. The
215
and 245 are the section width. So the 60 number is the important
number.
Jeff
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball
<[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60
on
the front. You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't
that taller than a 215 60?
Thanks,
Chris
__________________________________________________________________
From: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: Christopher Kimball <[5]chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Pantera Owners
Club
of America <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except
Avons.
BACK: Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC.
Look
and handle great.
FRONT: Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but
they
look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too
tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry,
don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and
is
balanced on the track.
Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more
details.
Good to hear car coming along.
Jeff
6559
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift
<[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli
Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15
replacement
now
has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed
rating
quoted as Z or Y.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Christopher Kimball <[9]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
To: Pantera Owners Club of America
<[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
Hi everyone,
I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a
long
while because my car has been undergoing an extensive
restoration.
Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return
once
again
to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining
brightly,
and it appears my car should be done very soon.
However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he
took
it
for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost
dangerous to corner!
I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the
years,
and
now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire
question,
which I'm sure has been dealt with already: Is it possible for
me to
find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50
15
(front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes
I
need,
but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that
would be
good.
Thanks, I appreciate your help!
Sincerely,
Chris
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