[DeTomaso] Tire question

Christopher Kimball ChrisVKimball at msn.com
Mon Feb 28 20:00:14 EST 2022


Thanks for the info--I don't use my car on the track, but I have been known to drive it thousands of miles across the country to Fun Rallys, so I need tires that are Z rated since I might hypothetically drive rapidly.

Aren't Hoosiers lower-speed tires?

Sincerely,

Chris
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question

I use Hoosier R7's.  225/50 in front and 275/50 in rear.  They work great for racing and so far have no complaints at all and are turning very competitive lap times.

Presently, you won't be able to buy Avon's due to supply issues ...at least we can't.  Roger Krause says they hard to get and he is only supplying his best customers.


The R7's are much cheaper, last forever with little lap time def, and are easy to get.

Anyway, that's what we use.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 5:03 PM Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com<mailto:ChrisVKimball at msn.com>> wrote:
   Hi Jeff,

   Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on
   the front.  You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't
   that taller than a 215 60?

   Thanks,

   Chris
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   From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>>
   Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
   To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
   Cc: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>; Pantera Owners Club of
   America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question

   When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except
   Avons.
   BACK:  Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC.   Look
   and handle great.
   FRONT:   Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but they
   look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too
   tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry,
   don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is
   balanced on the track.
   Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more
   details.
   Good to hear car coming along.
   Jeff
   6559
   On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift
   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:

        I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli
        Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15 replacement
     now
        has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed rating
        quoted as Z or Y.
        Julian

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        From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on
     behalf of
        Christopher Kimball <[3]chrisvkimball at msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>>
        Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
        To: Pantera Owners Club of America
     <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
        Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
        Hi everyone,
        I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a
     long
        while because my car has been undergoing an extensive
     restoration.
        Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return once
     again
        to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
        At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining
     brightly,
        and it appears my car should be done very soon.
        However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he took
     it
        for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost
        dangerous to corner!
        I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the years,
     and
        now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire
     question,
        which I'm sure has been dealt with already:  Is it possible for
     me to
        find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50 15
        (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
        I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes I
     need,
        but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that
     would be
        good.
        Thanks, I appreciate your help!
        Sincerely,
        Chris
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   Thanks for the info--I don't use my car on the track, but I have been
   known to drive it thousands of miles across the country to Fun Rallys,
   so I need tires that are Z rated since I might hypothetically drive
   rapidly.

   Aren't Hoosiers lower-speed tires?

   Sincerely,

   Chris
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 4:41 PM
   To: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
   Cc: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; Julian Kift
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; Pantera Owners Club of America
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question

   I use Hoosier R7's.  225/50 in front and 275/50 in rear.  They work
   great for racing and so far have no complaints at all and are turning
   very competitive lap times.
   Presently, you won't be able to buy Avon's due to supply issues ...at
   least we can't.  Roger Krause says they hard to get and he is only
   supplying his best customers.
   The R7's are much cheaper, last forever with little lap time def, and
   are easy to get.
   Anyway, that's what we use.
   On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 5:03 PM Christopher Kimball
   <[1]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> wrote:

        Hi Jeff,
        Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215
     60 on
        the front.  You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but
     isn't
        that taller than a 215 60?
        Thanks,
        Chris

     __________________________________________________________________
        From: Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
        Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
        To: Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
        Cc: Christopher Kimball <[4]chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Pantera
     Owners Club of
        America <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
        When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except
        Avons.
        BACK:  Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC.
      Look
        and handle great.
        FRONT:   Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but
     they
        look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and
     too
        tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 -
     sorry,
        don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced
     and is
        balanced on the track.
        Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more
        details.
        Good to hear car coming along.
        Jeff
        6559
        On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift
        <[1][6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
             I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a
     Pirelli
             Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15
     replacement
          now
             has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed
     rating
             quoted as Z or Y.
             Julian

     __________________________________________________________________
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          behalf of
             Christopher Kimball <[3][8]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
             Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
             To: Pantera Owners Club of America
          <[4][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
             Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
             Hi everyone,
             I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community
     for a
          long
             while because my car has been undergoing an extensive
          restoration.
             Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return
     once
          again
             to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
             At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining
          brightly,
             and it appears my car should be done very soon.
             However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he
     took
          it
             for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was
     almost
             dangerous to corner!
             I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the
     years,
          and
             now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire
          question,
             which I'm sure has been dealt with already:  Is it possible
     for
          me to
             find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225
     50 15
             (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
             I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the
     sizes I
          need,
             but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced,
     that
          would be
             good.
             Thanks, I appreciate your help!
             Sincerely,
             Chris
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