[DeTomaso] Tire question
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Mon Feb 28 19:40:20 EST 2022
Chris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50 are more
significant. They are the aspect ratio, height vs width. The 215 and 245
are the section width. So the 60 number is the important number.
Jeff
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE&techid=7&ef_id=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!351458717475!e!!g!!aspect%20ratio%20tire&gclsrc=aw.ds
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on the
> front. You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't that taller
> than a 215 60?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
> *To:* Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Pantera Owners Club of
> America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
>
> When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except Avons.
>
> BACK: Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC. Look and
> handle great.
>
> FRONT: Avon 15" CR6ZZ 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but they
> look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too tall. I
> switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry, don't remember
> the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is balanced on the
> track.
>
> Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me. Would like hear more details.
>
> Good to hear car coming along.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli
> Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15 replacement now
> has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed rating
> quoted as Z or Y.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
> To: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
>
> Hi everyone,
> I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a long
> while because my car has been undergoing an extensive restoration.
> Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return once again
> to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
> At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining brightly,
> and it appears my car should be done very soon.
> However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he took it
> for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost
> dangerous to corner!
> I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the years, and
> now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire question,
> which I'm sure has been dealt with already: Is it possible for me to
> find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50 15
> (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
> I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes I need,
> but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that would be
> good.
> Thanks, I appreciate your help!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
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Chris, these are not very intuitive. Of the numbers, the 60 and 50 are
more significant. They are the aspect ratio,A height vs width. The 215
and 245 are the section width. So the 60 number is the important
number.
Jeff
[1]https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=CjwKCAiAg
vKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoC
MzMQAvD_BwE&techid=7&ef_id=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy
8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!3
51458717475!e!!g!!aspect%20ratio%20tire&gclsrc=aw.ds
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM Christopher Kimball
<[2]ChrisVKimball at msn.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Roger Kraus recommended the same setup you describe with the 215 60 on
the front.A You said you went with a 245 50 on the front, but isn't
that taller than a 215 60?
Thanks,
ChrisA
__________________________________________________________________
From: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: Christopher Kimball <[5]chrisvkimball at msn.com>; Pantera Owners Club
of America <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire question
A
When I upgraded, there were no matching speed rated tires except
Avons.A
BACK: A Avon 15" CR6ZZ are 295/50 are high speed rated - R IIRC. A
Look and handle great.A
FRONT: A Avon 15"A CR6ZZA 215/60 same as above. I mounted them but
they look somewhat out of proportion to my eye. /60 is too thin and too
tall. I switched to a Michelin speed rated tire 245/50R15 - sorry,
don't remember the model, car is in the shop. Car looks balanced and is
balanced on the track.A
Pirelli Cinturato Classics are new to me.A Would like hear more
details.A
Good to hear car coming along.A
Jeff
6559
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 12:34 PM Julian Kift
<[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A I think the 15" tires of choice are the Avon CR6ZZ or a Pirelli
A A Cinturato P7 classic, but even the Pirelli 345/35/15
replacement now
A A has a VR designation with conflicting information on speed
rating
A A quoted as Z or Y.
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
A A Christopher Kimball <[9]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
A A Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:04 AM
A A To: Pantera Owners Club of America
<[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Tire question
A A Hi everyone,
A A I haven't been contributing much to the Pantera community for a
long
A A while because my car has been undergoing an extensive
restoration.
A A Thanks for understanding; once I get my car back I'll return
once again
A A to the realm of the Pantera faithful.
A A At this point the light at the end of the tunnel is shining
brightly,
A A and it appears my car should be done very soon.
A A However, the tech who has been working on it told me when he
took it
A A for a test drive recently the tires were so hard it was almost
A A dangerous to corner!
A A I know there have been a lot of tire discussions over the
years, and
A A now I'm hoping someone will remember the solution to my tire
question,
A A which I'm sure has been dealt with already:A Is it possible
for me to
A A find new tires which are Z, W, or Y rated in the sizes 225 50
15
A A (front), and either 295 50 15 or 285 50 15 (rear)?
A A I'm not overly concerned with the price if I can get the sizes
I need,
A A but obviously if I can find something reasonably priced, that
would be
A A good.
A A Thanks, I appreciate your help!
A A Sincerely,
A A Chris
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1. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE&techid=7&ef_id=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3HBthKm5yIVo6aQU7Uiy8HWl2NUheMUMI40Zwn8YEmXqJ-70qin6KRoCMzMQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!351458717475!e!!g!!aspect%20ratio%20tire&gclsrc=aw.ds
2. mailto:ChrisVKimball at msn.com
3. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
4. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
5. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
7. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
9. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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