[DeTomaso] Longchamp GTS Spyder for sale

Mike Drew mikeldrew at aol.com
Tue Aug 23 17:41:41 EDT 2022


Hahahahah!

Thanks Roland! Yes of course you are right! I meant Spyder, not Targa. Duh! 🤪

Just substitute the word ‘Spyder’ everywhere in my previous email. 

Thanks again! 👍

Mike

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> On Aug 23, 2022, at 14:24, Roland Jaeckel <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
> 
> Mike, Longchamp GTS Targa ? Did i miss some thing?
> 
>> Am 23.08.2022 um 22:24 schrieb MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> Yea, missing three things:
>> 
>> 1) Hagerty doesn’t have a clue what any Longchamp is worth because there aren’t enough comps. There are only a handful in the USA and it is years between each sale. 
>> 
>> 2) The vast majority of Longchamps (of which there are only 410 total, or something like that) are narrow body cars. Only a couple of dozen were built to GTS spec I believe.
>> 
>> 3) I think only 12 Pavesi targa Longchamps were built (plus or minus a few, I can’t remember). Of that number, only a handful were GTS targas. 
>> 
>> So, a Longchamp GTS Pavesi Targa may be a 1 of 3, or 1 of 6 made or something like that. It was the top of the top of the line. Such rarity confers great additional value….
>> 
>> Roland had a much better idea of the build numbers than I do?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 23, 2022, at 12:26, Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They’re asking $198,500, and Hagerty lists a concours condition ‘84 Longchamp GTS (coupe) at $94,200. Is the Spyder (converted from a coupe) really worth the extra $104K?
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something here?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 23, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Roland Jaeckel <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This Longchamp Spyder was ordered by Auto Lorenz in Spredlingen for a wealthy customer, who refused to fulfill the deal, because of major problems with the build quality. It was buildt from a used Coupe. I remember very well, when it was delivered to Auto Lorenz. I had to work out some major issues for the former german importer, Armin Fischer on it. Must have been around 1990. So, it is not a Spyder from the beginning. Koen should know it, i think he got all papers for the car.
>>>> I bought two cars from Koen, i see him as a seller, unfortunately he does not tell all the truth about, what he sells. I could write a long story about the Deauville and the GT5-S  i bought from him. I should have looked closer and not beleived every word he has told me. I am an adult and i know what i‘m doing, so i don‘t blame him. He is just as every other car seller.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:45 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Koen Heuts runs Speed 8 Classics.  He has become Europe’s largest De Tomaso dealer, and always has Panteras etc in stock, some sourced from the USA by way of Simon Vels. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good dude selling good cars….
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2022, at 09:17, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Came across this advertised in Europe (Belgium) for EUR195,000.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1]https://www.speed8classics.com/classic-car/594/de-tomaso-longchamp-g
>>>>>> ts-spyder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [cid:6B5E383E-E161-4D9C-B844-801C7C64F7FB-L0-001]
>>>>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> References
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. https://www.speed8classics.com/classic-car/594/de-tomaso-longchamp-gts-spyder
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