[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 218, Issue 19

Fred Foreman fred4man at att.net
Mon Aug 22 15:14:12 EDT 2022


 Will,Your Cobra uses a Salsbury differential, I believe???What 1/2 shafts did you find and end up using??   I'm looking for some on the Iso.
Fred Foreman

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Daily Detomaso List DigestToday's Topics:

  1. NPC - Weird Failure (Will Kooiman)
  2. Re: NPC - Weird Failure (Christopher Kimball)
  3. Re: NPC - Weird Failure (byrdjf at embarqmail.com)
  I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.


  I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it's like driving a 4-wheel
  Harley with open pipes.  It's very fun to cruise in the morning when
  the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the stars are just
  start coming out, or really whenever it isn't super hot or raining.
  It's even fun when it's cold outside.


  But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428 made
  lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a 427
  (482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.


  I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn't running that
  great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard for
  a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn't push it hard, because
  the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30 degrees.  So,
  I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts replaced.


  I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it
  died.  It would not run - no way, no how.  There was no gas to the
  carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel pump
  went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After deliberation,
  I decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to
  carburetor.  In the process, I would also change the half shafts.


  The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.  The
  tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval
  cap.  It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex hose
  that attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce
  down to about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that
  regulates to 60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I
  hooked it all up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the
  pressure at the pump - 60psi - so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.


  There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It attaches
  the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I
  checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed
  it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first
  indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side were
  stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly
  because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard
  line had split - most likely from over tightening.  When it split, it
  caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.  It was
  effectively a shut off valve.


  I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I
  suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.


  Disclaimer - I had never had any of this apart before, so I didn't
  break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.


  At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and it's
  all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also have super
  strong half shafts, so I'm ready to start cruising topless again.
  It is amazing how one, tiny thing can disable an entire car.  Kind of
  like the pebble that took down Goliath!
  Glad you got it fixed.
  Sincerely,
  Chris
  Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
  smartphone
  -------- Original message --------
  From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
  Date: 8/22/22 5:01 AM (GMT-08:00)
  To: DeTomaso_List <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Weird Failure

  I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.

  I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it's like driving a 4-wheel
  Harley with open pipes.  It's very fun to cruise in the morning when
  the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the stars are just
  start coming out, or really whenever it isn't super hot or raining.
  It's even fun when it's cold outside.

  But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428 made
  lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a 427
  (482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.

  I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn't running that
  great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard for
  a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn't push it hard, because
  the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30 degrees.  So,
  I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts replaced.

  I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it
  died.  It would not run - no way, no how.  There was no gas to the
  carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel pump
  went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After deliberation,
  I decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to
  carburetor.  In the process, I would also change the half shafts.

  The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.  The
  tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval
  cap.  It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex hose
  that attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce
  down to about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that
  regulates to 60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I
  hooked it all up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the
  pressure at the pump - 60psi - so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.

  There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It attaches
  the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I
  checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed
  it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first
  indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side were
  stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly
  because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard
  line had split - most likely from over tightening.  When it split, it
  caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.  It was
  effectively a shut off valve.

  I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I
  suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.

  Disclaimer - I had never had any of this apart before, so I didn't
  break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.

  At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and it's
  all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also have super
  strong half shafts, so I'm ready to start cruising topless again.
Good Luck . . . Hope you have found "da Problem".
I enjoyed your narrative expecially since I have been going through =
something (sort of) similar on a MUCH smaller scale.
For months now, I am looking for fuel problem with a TR6.
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of =
Will Kooiman
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 8:01 AM
To: DeTomaso_List <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Weird Failure

I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.

=20

I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it=E2=80=99s like driving a =
4-wheel Harley with open pipes.  It=E2=80=99s very fun to cruise in the =
morning when the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the stars =
are just start coming out, or really whenever it isn=E2=80=99t super hot =
or raining.  It=E2=80=99s even fun when it=E2=80=99s cold outside.

=20

But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428 made =
lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a 427 =
(482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.

=20

I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn=E2=80=99t running =
that great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard =
for a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn=E2=80=99t push it =
hard, because the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30 =
degrees.  So, I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts =
replaced.

=20

I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it died.  =
It would not run =E2=80=93 no way, no how.  There was no gas to the =
carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel pump =
went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After deliberation, I =
decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to carburetor.  =
In the process, I would also change the half shafts.

=20

The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.  The =
tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval cap. =
 It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex hose that =
attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce down to =
about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that regulates to =
60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I hooked it all =
up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the pressure at the =
pump =E2=80=93 60psi =E2=80=93 so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.

=20

There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It attaches =
the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I =
checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed =
it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first =
indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side were =
stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly =
because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard =
line had split =E2=80=93 most likely from over tightening.  When it =
split, it caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.  It =
was effectively a shut off valve.

=20

I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I =
suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.

=20

Disclaimer =E2=80=93 I had never had any of this apart before, so I =
didn=E2=80=99t break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.

=20

At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and =
it=E2=80=99s all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also =
have super strong half shafts, so I=E2=80=99m ready to start cruising =
topless again.



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   Will,
   Your Cobra uses a Salsbury differential, I believe???
   What 1/2 shafts did you find and end up using??   I'm looking for some
   on the Iso.
   Fred Foreman

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   Daily Detomaso List DigestToday's Topics:
     1. NPC - Weird Failure (Will Kooiman)
     2. Re: NPC - Weird Failure (Christopher Kimball)
     3. Re: NPC - Weird Failure ([5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com)
     I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.
     I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it's like driving a
   4-wheel
     Harley with open pipes.  It's very fun to cruise in the morning when
     the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the stars are just
     start coming out, or really whenever it isn't super hot or raining.
     It's even fun when it's cold outside.
     But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428
   made
     lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a
   427
     (482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.
     I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn't running that
     great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard
   for
     a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn't push it hard, because
     the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30 degrees.
   So,
     I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts replaced.
     I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it
     died.  It would not run - no way, no how.  There was no gas to the
     carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel
   pump
     went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After
   deliberation,
     I decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to
     carburetor.  In the process, I would also change the half shafts.
     The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.
   The
     tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval
     cap.  It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex
   hose
     that attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce
     down to about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that
     regulates to 60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I
     hooked it all up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the
     pressure at the pump - 60psi - so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.
     There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It
   attaches
     the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I
     checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed
     it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first
     indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side
   were
     stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly
     because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard
     line had split - most likely from over tightening.  When it split, it
     caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.  It was
     effectively a shut off valve.
     I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I
     suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.
     Disclaimer - I had never had any of this apart before, so I didn't
     break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.
     At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and
   it's
     all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also have super
     strong half shafts, so I'm ready to start cruising topless again.
     It is amazing how one, tiny thing can disable an entire car.  Kind of
     like the pebble that took down Goliath!
     Glad you got it fixed.
     Sincerely,
     Chris
     Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
     smartphone
     -------- Original message --------
     From: Will Kooiman <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     Date: 8/22/22 5:01 AM (GMT-08:00)
     To: DeTomaso_List <[7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Weird Failure
     I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.
     I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it's like driving a
   4-wheel
     Harley with open pipes.  It's very fun to cruise in the morning when
     the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the stars are just
     start coming out, or really whenever it isn't super hot or raining.
     It's even fun when it's cold outside.
     But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428
   made
     lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a
   427
     (482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.
     I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn't running that
     great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard
   for
     a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn't push it hard, because
     the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30 degrees.
   So,
     I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts replaced.
     I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it
     died.  It would not run - no way, no how.  There was no gas to the
     carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel
   pump
     went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After
   deliberation,
     I decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to
     carburetor.  In the process, I would also change the half shafts.
     The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.
   The
     tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval
     cap.  It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex
   hose
     that attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce
     down to about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that
     regulates to 60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I
     hooked it all up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the
     pressure at the pump - 60psi - so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.
     There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It
   attaches
     the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I
     checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed
     it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first
     indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side
   were
     stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly
     because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard
     line had split - most likely from over tightening.  When it split, it
     caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.  It was
     effectively a shut off valve.
     I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I
     suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.
     Disclaimer - I had never had any of this apart before, so I didn't
     break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.
     At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and
   it's
     all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also have super
     strong half shafts, so I'm ready to start cruising topless again.
   Good Luck . . . Hope you have found "da Problem".
   I enjoyed your narrative expecially since I have been going through =
   something (sort of) similar on a MUCH smaller scale.
   For months now, I am looking for fuel problem with a TR6.
   Joe
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
   Of =
   Will Kooiman
   Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 8:01 AM
   To: DeTomaso_List <[9]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC - Weird Failure
   I bought a Contemporary Classic 427 Cobra replica about 7 years ago.
   =20
   I love this car.  When the weather is nice, it=E2=80=99s like driving a
   =
   4-wheel Harley with open pipes.  It=E2=80=99s very fun to cruise in the
   =
   morning when the sun is coming up, or in the late evening when the
   stars =
   are just start coming out, or really whenever it isn=E2=80=99t super
   hot =
   or raining.  It=E2=80=99s even fun when it=E2=80=99s cold outside.
   =20
   But it has never felt like a big block in a 2,200 lb car.  The 428 made
   =
   lots of noise, but it pulled like a 289.  So, I replaced it with a 427
   =
   (482 actually) and a Tremec 5-speed.
   =20
   I put quite a few miles on this engine, but it wasn=E2=80=99t running =
   that great either.  It had lots of flat spots.  It would pull very hard
   =
   for a few seconds, then it would go dead.  I didn=E2=80=99t push it =
   hard, because the Jaguar half shafts in the rear were twisted about 30
   =
   degrees.  So, I figured I would drive easy until I got the half shafts
   =
   replaced.
   =20
   I drove to Arkansas from Miami during Covid.  On the way back, it
   died.  =
   It would not run =E2=80=93 no way, no how.  There was no gas to the =
   carburetor.  I figured either severe vapor lock or maybe the fuel pump
   =
   went out.  I towed it from Gainesville back home.  After deliberation,
   I =
   decided to drop the fuel tank, and check everything tank to
   carburetor.  =
   In the process, I would also change the half shafts.
   =20
   The first weird thing I discovered was the fuel line at the tank.  The
   =
   tank is a nice, aluminum, baffled tank, with a fuel cell style oval
   cap. =
   It has -8 bulkhead fittings for fuel and vent.  But the flex hose that
   =
   attaches to the -8 siphon is -6 with weird fittings that reduce down to
   =
   about -4.  I replaced all of this with an in tank pump that regulates
   to =
   60psi.  It has a -6 outlet, which is plenty at 60psi.  I hooked it all
   =
   up, and I still had 0psi at the engine.  I checked the pressure at the
   =
   pump =E2=80=93 60psi =E2=80=93 so, yes I hooked it all up correctly.
   =20
   There is a -6 male union right in front of the rear tire.  It attaches
   =
   the flex line to a hard line that goes to the front of the car.  I =
   checked that and noticed the union was cocked to one side.  I removed =
   it, but had to use wrenches the whole time.  That was the first =
   indication something was wrong.  The threads on the hard line side were
   =
   stripped.  It took me a while to figure out what happened, mostly =
   because it was hard to see (still no lift).  The tube nut on the hard =
   line had split =E2=80=93 most likely from over tightening.  When it =
   split, it caused the fitting to cock to one side and block the fuel.
   It =
   was effectively a shut off valve.
   =20
   I have only had time for a short test run to the gas station, but I =
   suspect the flat spots are gone, which will be nice.
   =20
   Disclaimer =E2=80=93 I had never had any of this apart before, so I =
   didn=E2=80=99t break it.  I do lots of dumb stuff, but not this time.
   =20
   At any rate, I now have perfect pressure, tank to carburetor, and =
   it=E2=80=99s all wrapped in DEI fuel line wrap to keep it cool.  I also
   =
   have super strong half shafts, so I=E2=80=99m ready to start cruising =
   topless again.
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