[DeTomaso] Best option for always-on hazard switch
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Thu Aug 11 01:31:56 EDT 2022
There are two designs of e-switches used on OEM '71-'74 Panteras. One type uses a sheet steel cage to hold the switch body together. Its tabs are easily bent to access the insides for a repair. The other (later?) type uses a series of integral plastic hooks to hold the switch body together. It apparently takes a special tool to simultaneously depress all 6 or so of the plastic hooks for disassembly. I once cut all the hooks away to get inside one of those switches, and found the electrical contacts are different as well. Of course, cutting the plastic hooks off ruins the switch. As usual, all this info is in an old POCA Newsletter article available in the POCA Archives.
All the Pantera vendors sell an OEM switch quite reasonably but as was said, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, BMW and probably other Euros of the day sell a very similar switch. Only the molded wiring numbers on the backside of the switch body vary. The ring nut, bulb and short wiring loom all interchange as well, on most if not all the switches. Blocking the button inside the switch with a toothpick used to be a common "quick-fix" but can buy you a fair bit of trouble. Since pushing the button in a little too far disconnects the brake lights. If a cop sees you driving in that condition, you are awarded a fix-it-ticket for your ingenuity. Do not ask how I know this....J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2022 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best option for always-on hazard switch
I opened the switch up and bent the pieces back into shape when this happened to my switch. There is a metal wire hook that is supposed to latch to a plastic piece if I recall, and it was fairly obvious what the problem was and it was an easy fix.
/Thomas
> 11 aug. 2022 kl. 01:31 skrev Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>:
>
> Our hazard switch took a crap and is always on.A So, for now
> itsA bypassed.A But, we want it working even in theA race car, if only
> for ourA occasional street runs (like at the Road America
> parade/concours).A A
> The best option we found for a replacement is Pantera Electronics.A A
> * [1]https://www.pantera-electronics.com/electrical%20components.htm
>
> Any NOS bits or spares hanging around out there?A Any other
> suggestions?
> Hope all are well and good luck at the SS to those going.A Please keep
> us posted!
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
> Direct: 480-442-0297
> [2]www.PatentIt.com
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> 1. https://www.pantera-electronics.com/electrical%20components.htm
> 2. http://www.patentit.com/
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There are two designs of e-switches used on OEM '71-'74 Panteras. One
type uses a sheet steel cage to hold the switch body together. Its tabs
are easily bent to access the insides for a repair. The other (later?)
type uses a series of integral plastic hooks to hold the switch body
together. It apparently takes a special tool to simultaneously depress
all 6 or so of the plastic hooks for disassembly. I once cut all the
hooks away to get inside one of those switches, and found the
electrical contacts are different as well. Of course, cutting the
plastic hooks off ruins the switch. As usual, all this info is in an
old POCA Newsletter article available in the POCA Archives.
All the Pantera vendors sell an OEM switch quite reasonably but as was
said, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, BMW and probably other Euros of the day sell a
very similar switch. Only the molded wiring numbers on the backside of
the switch body vary. The ring nut, bulb and short wiring loom all
interchange as well, on most if not all the switches. Blocking the
button inside the switch with a toothpick used to be a common
"quick-fix" but can buy you a fair bit of trouble. Since pushing the
button in a little too far disconnects the brake lights. If a cop sees
you driving in that condition, you are awarded a fix-it-ticket for your
ingenuity. Do not ask how I know this....
J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas TAP:rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2022 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best option for always-on hazard switch
I opened the switch up and bent the pieces back into shape when this
happened to my switch. There is a metal wire hook that is supposed to
latch to a plastic piece if I recall, and it was fairly obvious what
the problem was and it was an easy fix.
/Thomas
> 11 aug. 2022 kl. 01:31 skrev Steve Lisa <[1]stevelisa at patentit.com>:
>
> i>>? Our hazard switch took a crap and is always on.A So, for now
> itsA bypassed.A But, we want it working even in theA race car, if
only
> for ourA occasional street runs (like at the Road America
> parade/concours).A A
> The best option we found for a replacement is Pantera Electronics.A
A
> *
[1][2]https://www.pantera-electronics.com/electrical%20components.htm
>
> Any NOS bits or spares hanging around out there?A Any other
> suggestions?
> Hope all are well and good luck at the SS to those going.A Please
keep
> us posted!
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
> Direct: 480-442-0297
> [2]www.PatentIt.com
> Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
> |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>
> Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A: 55
E.
> Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
> This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
> confidential and privileged information. If you received this email
in
> error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
Thank
> you.
>
> References
>
> 1.
[4]https://www.pantera-electronics.com/electrical%20components.htm
> 2. [5]http://www.patentit.com/
>
>
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2. https://www.pantera-electronics.com/electrical%20components.htm
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