[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 214, Issue 16
wnderdad
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Sun Apr 24 12:22:43 EDT 2022
Glad you were able to race.Sometimes passing on the outside of a corner is riskyas can run out of room.Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9+.
-------- Original message --------From: detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.com Date: 4/24/22 11:00 AM (GMT-06:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 214, Issue 16 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso at server.detomasolist.comTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomasoor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request at server.detomasolist.comYou can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner at server.detomasolist.comWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..."Daily Detomaso List DigestToday's Topics: 1. Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 (Steve Lisa) 2. Re: Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 (Julian Kift) 3. Re: Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 (Steve Lisa) 4. Re: Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 (Steve Lisa)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 23:22:40 -0700From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1Message-ID: <CAOzaoYqaQV6-6tb+itGjHSEYoK8ZTtB35n0dY981y9mYs_4cDw at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Attached Saturday race results.I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear inthe dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, thengot nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so Icontinued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few morepositions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of thisfield is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5company!!!!!!I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we gethome....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically fineand running well.We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be thelast. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics(lower valence, etc.).Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.---------- Forwarded message ---------From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PMSubject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>-------------- next part -------------- Attached Saturday race results.A A I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, then got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically fine, so I continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some Group 4-5 company!!!!!! I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically fine and running well.A A We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics (lower valence, etc.).A A Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Results SVRA <[1]svra.results at gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 To: Results SVRA <[2]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>References 1. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com 2. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 Lapchart.pdfType: application/pdfSize: 336617 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/20220423/b653d4ba/attachment-0003.pdf>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Group 6 12 Feature Race 1.pdfType: application/pdfSize: 339000 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/20220423/b653d4ba/attachment-0004.pdf>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 Laptimes.pdfType: application/pdfSize: 345198 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/20220423/b653d4ba/attachment-0005.pdf>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:29:10 +0000From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>, List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1Message-ID: <BYAPR03MB3973FA35B56867DA3F5C085395F99 at BYAPR03MB3973.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.Julian________________________________From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PMTo: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1Attached Saturday race results.I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear inthe dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, thengot nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so Icontinued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few morepositions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of thisfield is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5company!!!!!!I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we gethome....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically fineand running well.We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be thelast. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics(lower valence, etc.).Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.---------- Forwarded message ---------From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PMSubject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>-------------- next part -------------- You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 Attached Saturday race results. I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, then got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5 company!!!!!! I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically fine and running well. We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics (lower valence, etc.). Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:35:57 -0700From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1Message-ID: <CAOzaoYocFDv7FLUU_s3S4pPvQw8jWJE-BcS92OOwhPrJanSs8A at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said. Their only spec sheetis for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run asA-production, no exceptions, in Group 6. HSR so far has the Pantera inwith earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's etc. Butit is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:> You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as> under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it> would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.>> Julian>> ------------------------------> *From:* DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of> Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM> *To:* List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12> Feature Race 1>> Attached Saturday race results.>> I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in> the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, then> got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I> continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more> positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this> field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5> company!!!!!!>> I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get> home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically fine> and running well.>> We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the> last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics> (lower valence, etc.).>> Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------> From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM> Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1> To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>>-------------- next part -------------- SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said.A Their only spec sheet is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run as A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6.A HSR so far has the Pantera in with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's etc.A But it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.A A On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM To: List DeTomaso Forum <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 A Attached Saturday race results. I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, then got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically fine, so I continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some Group 4-5 company!!!!!! I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically fine and running well. We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics (lower valence, etc.). Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Results SVRA <[5]svra.results at gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 To: Results SVRA <[6]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>References 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com 4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com 6. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com------------------------------Message: 4Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:45:57 -0700From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1Message-ID: <CAOzaoYrGSh6_8LDXUk3meCw_MdmBzH6fsMm8X5nvEcnbuBUJvw at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Regardless, there are plenty of people to race with mid pack and SVRA putson a great event. There are some beautiful cars in Group 6, and it'spretty aggressive racing. So all is good....just won't contend in a bigfields.On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:35 AM Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:> SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said. Their only spec sheet> is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run as> A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6. HSR so far has the Pantera in> with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's etc. But> it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:>>> You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as>> under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it>> would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.>>>> Julian>>>> ------------------------------>> *From:* DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of>> Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM>> *To:* List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12>> Feature Race 1>>>> Attached Saturday race results.>>>> I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in>> the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun,>> then>> got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I>> continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more>> positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this>> field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5>> company!!!!!!>>>> I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get>> home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically fine>> and running well.>>>> We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the>> last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics>> (lower valence, etc.).>>>> Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------->> From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>>> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM>> Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1>> To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>>>>-------------- next part -------------- Regardless, there are plenty of people to race with mid pack and SVRA puts on a great event.A There are some beautiful cars in Group 6, and it's pretty aggressive racing.A So all is good....just won't contend in a big fields.A A On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:35 AM Steve Lisa <[1]stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote: SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said.A Their only spec sheet is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run as A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6.A HSR so far has the Pantera in with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's etc.A But it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.A A On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM To: List DeTomaso Forum <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 A Attached Saturday race results. I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear in the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun, then got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically fine, so I continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of this field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some Group 4-5 company!!!!!! I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically fine and running well. We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front cosmetics (lower valence, etc.). Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Results SVRA <[6]svra.results at gmail.com> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1 To: Results SVRA <[7]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>References 1. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com 2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com 7. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso at server.detomasolist.comhttp://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomasoMembers who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Glad you were able to race.
Sometimes passing on the outside of a corner is risky
as can run out of room.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9+.
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Race 1 (Steve Lisa)
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Race 1 (Steve Lisa)
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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 23:22:40 -0700
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
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Attached Saturday race results.
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear
in
the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun,
then
got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I
continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of
this
field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5
company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically
fine
and running well.
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the
last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
(lower valence, etc.).
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
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Attached Saturday race results.A A
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear
in the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun, then got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically
fine, so I continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a
few more positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the
front
half of this field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some
Group 4-5 company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically
fine and running well.A A
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics (lower valence, etc.).A A
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <[1]svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <[2]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
References
1. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com
2. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com
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Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:29:10 +0000
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>, List DeTomaso Forum
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
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You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as
under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10, where
it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
Attached Saturday race results.
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left rear
in
the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4, spun,
then
got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I
continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of
this
field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5
company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically
fine
and running well.
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be the
last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
(lower valence, etc.).
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
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You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time
as
under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10,
where
it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
Attached Saturday race results.
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear
in
the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun,
then
got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I
continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half
of
this
field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5
company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically
fine
and running well.
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
(lower valence, etc.).
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:35:57 -0700
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
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SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said. Their only spec
sheet
is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run as
A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6. HSR so far has the Pantera in
with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's etc.
But
it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time as
> under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10,
where it
> would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
>
> Julian
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
> Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
> *To:* List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
> Feature Race 1
>
> Attached Saturday race results.
>
> I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear in
> the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun, then
> got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I
> continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
> positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half of
this
> field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5
> company!!!!!!
>
> I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
> home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically
fine
> and running well.
>
> We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
> last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
> (lower valence, etc.).
>
> Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
> Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
> To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
>
-------------- next part --------------
SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said.A Their only
spec
sheet is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run
as
A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6.A HSR so far has the
Pantera
in with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's
etc.A But it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.A
A
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time
as
under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10,
where
it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of Steve Lisa <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
To: List DeTomaso Forum <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
A
Attached Saturday race results.
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear
in
the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun,
then
got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically fine, so I
continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half
of
this
field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some Group 4-5
company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically
fine
and running well.
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
(lower valence, etc.).
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <[5]svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <[6]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
References
1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
3. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
4. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
5. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com
6. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 08:45:57 -0700
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
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Regardless, there are plenty of people to race with mid pack and SVRA
puts
on a great event. There are some beautiful cars in Group 6, and it's
pretty aggressive racing. So all is good....just won't contend in a
big
fields.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:35 AM Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
> SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said. Their only spec
sheet
> is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run as
> A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6. HSR so far has the Pantera
in
> with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's
etc. But
> it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time
as
>> under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10,
where it
>> would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
>> Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
>> *To:* List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
>> Feature Race 1
>>
>> Attached Saturday race results.
>>
>> I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear in
>> the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun,
>> then
>> got nicked in the right front. The car was mechanically fine, so I
>> continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
>> positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half
of this
>> field is out of touch for a Group 3 car. We need some Group 4-5
>> company!!!!!!
>>
>> I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
>> home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover. Mechanically
fine
>> and running well.
>>
>> We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
>> last. We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
>> (lower valence, etc.).
>>
>> Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Results SVRA <svra.results at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
>> Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
>> To: Results SVRA <SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
Regardless, there are plenty of people to race with mid pack and
SVRA
puts on a great event.A There are some beautiful cars in Group 6,
and
it's pretty aggressive racing.A So all is good....just won't
contend
in a big fields.A A
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:35 AM Steve Lisa <[1]stevelisa at patentit.com>
wrote:
SVRA has no place for a group 3 Pantera, they said.A Their only
spec
sheet is for the Group 4 and Group 5 Pantera, which they told me run
as
A-production, no exceptions, in Group 6.A HSR so far has the
Pantera
in with earlier FIA cars....which has a broad range including GT40's
etc.A But it is classed appropriately in the group appropriately.A
A
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:29 AM Julian Kift
<[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
You may be a lone Pantera Group 3 in that race group for some time
as
under SVRA race grouping a Group 4 Pantera must run in Group 10,
where
it would be pitted against Trans Am and IMSA cars.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:22 PM
To: List DeTomaso Forum <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12
Feature Race 1
A
Attached Saturday race results.
I started in the middle of the Group 6 pack, and dropped the left
rear
in
the dirt going two wide trying to pass on the outside of turn 4,
spun,
then
got nicked in the right front.A The car was mechanically fine, so I
continued and went from last to 21st. I hope to make up a few more
positions in the feature race tomorrow, but frankly the front half
of
this
field is out of touch for a Group 3 car.A We need some Group 4-5
company!!!!!!
I will be reaching out for a list of nose piece sources after we get
home....wrinkled nose, deck lid, fender, light cover.A Mechanically
fine
and running well.
We made it 14 race weekends before contact....i am sure it won't be
the
last.A We will use the opportunity to clean up some of the front
cosmetics
(lower valence, etc.).
Will keep you all posted after the race tomorrow.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Results SVRA <[6]svra.results at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:41 PM
Subject: SVRA 2022 TransAm Speedfest : Group 6 12 Feature Race 1
To: Results SVRA <[7]SVRA.Results at gmail.com>
References
1. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
4. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
6. mailto:svra.results at gmail.com
7. mailto:SVRA.Results at gmail.com
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