[DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT

[Will Kooiman]

I agree too, but we've also always said, "Do not buy a rusty Pantera."  Right?  How many times have you heard this?

This car can be brought back, but only with the help of a very skilled body man.  Most of the rusty body panels will need to be made from scratch - English wheel, etc.

It would be a different story if this were an old Mustang - where you can buy new panels and cut out/replace everything.

And yes, if this father/son were local, I'd do whatever I could to help them - including wrenching, giving them parts, and telling them to contact the Pantera Vendors + Johnny Woods.

But I still think this car is an extremely difficult project, that is beyond the skill level of a typical father/son.

On 4/11/22, 12:02 AM, "detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of gt40 at sbcglobal.net" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    I absolutely do agree that we should support the new owner/s as the Pantera 
    community.

    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Jeff Detrich
    Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:52 PM
    To: L GRAY
    Cc: Bill Cartus ; Ken Green ; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com ; Rich Hoppe
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT

    Jeez, now I'm starting to feel guilty. 🥺

    On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 8:26 PM L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:

    >   Very well stated Julian!!
    >
    > Leslie A. Gray
    >
    > > On Apr 10, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <
    > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Thank you Julian
    > >
    > > Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
    > >
    > >> On Apr 10, 2022, at 12:43, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>    Did anyone care to read the BaT auction comments, or y'all just
    > >>  throwing grenades from the bleachers?
    > >>
    > >>  Buyer purchased as a father - son project, yes one heck of a project 
    > >> at
    > >>  a price you and I might not have the pocket book to stomach, but as is
    > >>  often the case projects sell for more than their relative worth to
    > >>  folks who desperately want a Pantera by getting in on the low end, and
    > >>  trickling time and money into over a period. There are quite a few
    > >>  potential buyers out there searching, with very few cars available, 
    > >> add
    > >>  the BaT factor and it's easy to see how this got where it did. We have
    > >>  all seen worse condition taken on and restored, without having to 
    > >> steal
    > >>  a second one and chop shop it! We should all be reaching out to the
    > >>  buyer / son and welcoming them to the Pantera family as well as
    > >>  commending them on their efforts to save another Pantera
    > >>  whilst offering our collective help and wisdom.
    > >>
    > >>  Julian
    > >>    __________________________________________________________________
    > >>
    > >>  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
    > >>  Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
    > >>  Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 12:23 PM
    > >>  To: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
    > >>  Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Bill Cartus <bcartus at yahoo.com>;
    > >>  detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    > >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
    > >>
    > >>  My concern is someone will steal another pantera and do a vin swap.
    > >>  Sent from my iPhone
    > >>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Mike & Elizabeth
    > >>>  <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>> Even as a parts doner I don't think you'd get your money back.  I'd
    > >>  hate to see what the ZF looks like inside.
    > >>>
    > >>> Mike
    > >>>
    > >>> -----Original Message-----
    > >>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
    > >>  Of Will Kooiman
    > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2022 9:28 PM
    > >>> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Bill Cartus
    > >>  <bcartus at yahoo.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    > >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
    > >>>
    > >>> Agreed.  Stupidest number I've seen.  The buyer is in for a very rude
    > >>  awakening.
    > >>>
    > >>>> On 4/9/22, 11:27 PM, "gt40 at sbcglobal.net" <gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>  Pure Insanity! The numbers DON'T work!
    > >>>
    > >>>  John
    > >>>
    > >>>  -----Original Message-----
    > >>>  From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
    > >>>  Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2022 1:50 PM
    > >>>  To: Bill Cartus ; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com ; Will Kooiman
    > >>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
    > >>>
    > >>>  It sold for $33,333.
    > >>>  [1]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-77/
    > >>>  I have 2 projects one nearly done, the other is stripped and needs
    > >>  metal
    > >>>  repair but nothing like the one that just sold.  Looks like time
    > >>  to sell it.
    > >>>
    > >>>  I remember how cheap the cars we like were into the early 70's and
    > >>  then
    > >>>  prices exploded due to inflation.
    > >>>
    > >>>  Ken
    > >>
    > >> References
    > >>
    > >>  1. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-77/
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