[DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 9 16:50:26 EDT 2022
It sold for $33,333.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-77/
I have 2 projects one nearly done, the other is stripped and needs metal repair but nothing like the one that just sold. Looks like time to sell it.
I remember how cheap the cars we like were into the early 70's and then prices exploded due to inflation.
Ken
On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 01:13:21 PM PDT, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
Wow. I don't think I've seen a bigger rust bucket. It has rust holes in the roof and floor, so at least the rain can go all the way through. The only parts that don't look rusted are the glass, and maybe the rubber.
I thought it might be a good candidate to rebody - GT5-S or one of those car shows where they turn it into a Frankenstein. But man - everything is rusted.
That's the first time I've seen an engine access cover that looked like that. Is that from an early car?
On 4/7/22, 6:35 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Bill Cartus via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Everyone, the 'rust bucket' project '72 Pantera currently listed on
BringATrailer is near me in the Atlanta area. I am trying to arrange a
visit to see the car even though the seller is on vacation. If anyone
is interested in me looking for something specific or a picture that
was not provided on BaT, please email me (bcartus at yahoo.com) soon. I'm
not interested in this car for myself, but will assist POCA folks that
might be.
Bill Cartus
#3633
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Subject: [DeTomaso] A good deal on Lenox carbide blade hole saws for
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I bought some of these, good prices to buy 4 or more of them:
1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed | eBay
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1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed | eBay
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[1]1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed |
eBay
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1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed | eBay
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&
5/8 in (92mm). 3 & 1/2 in (89mm). 3 & 3/8 ...
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From: Steve Liebenow <[10]steven.liebenow at att.net>
To: Detomaso List <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] GM 12SI Alternator Connection ???
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Guys,
Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion......with absolutely no
instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt bracket.????
Everything after that is free??? Free to find it wherever you
can.......?? I'll stop here for the moment.
Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and installing
a 97A GM 12si version.?? No, I do not need all the amperage.......no
EFI, no big stereo.....
SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator.? #1 and #2.??? Bat+ is
pretty evident.......duh!
This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good their
search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
anything.....grrrrr.....? I have this:
Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to the
Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term "I" and
this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain your
battery......albeit slowly.???
Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of the time
(or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire, terminal
"A" from the old harness.
Regulator Terminals? S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no longer
used. (internal stator windings and control)
If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in handy about
now.
Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I bought
a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car apart!!!??? It's
around here somewhere......? and I'm rearranging components on my
starter solenoid/coil panel to boot.? Need new room for heater hose
support and my inline rust filter!? I don't want my heater hoses laying
on the alternator!
Thanks in advance!
Steve
-------------- next part --------------
Guys,
Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion......with absolutely no
instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt bracket.
Everything after that is free? Free to find it wherever you
can....... I'll stop here for the moment.
Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and
installing
a 97A GM 12si version. No, I do not need all the amperage.......no
EFI, no big stereo.....
SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator. #1 and #2. Bat+
is
pretty evident.......duh!
This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good their
search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
anything.....grrrrr..... I have this:
Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to the
Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term "I"
and
this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain your
battery......albeit slowly.
Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of the
time
(or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire,
terminal
"A" from the old harness.
Regulator Terminals S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no longer
used. (internal stator windings and control)
If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in handy
about
now.
Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I
bought
a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car apart!!!
It's
around here somewhere...... and I'm rearranging components on my
starter solenoid/coil panel to boot. Need new room for heater hose
support and my inline rust filter! I don't want my heater hoses
laying
on the alternator!
Thanks in advance!
Steve
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It sold for $33,333.
[1]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-77/
I have 2 projects one nearly done, the other is stripped and needs
metal repair but nothing like the one that just sold. Looks like time
to sell it.
I remember how cheap the cars we like were into the early 70's and then
prices exploded due to inflation.
Ken
On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 01:13:21 PM PDT, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
Wow. I don't think I've seen a bigger rust bucket. It has rust holes
in the roof and floor, so at least the rain can go all the way
through. The only parts that don't look rusted are the glass, and
maybe the rubber.
I thought it might be a good candidate to rebody - GT5-S or one of
those car shows where they turn it into a Frankenstein. But man -
everything is rusted.
That's the first time I've seen an engine access cover that looked like
that. Is that from an early car?
i>>?On 4/7/22, 6:35 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Bill Cartus via
DeTomaso" <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Everyone, the 'rust bucket' project '72 Pantera currently listed
on
BringATrailer is near me in the Atlanta area. I am trying to
arrange a
visit to see the car even though the seller is on vacation. If
anyone
is interested in me looking for something specific or a picture
that
was not provided on BaT, please email me ([4]bcartus at yahoo.com)
soon. I'm
not interested in this car for myself, but will assist POCA folks
that
might be.
Bill Cartus
#3633
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1. A good deal on Lenox carbide blade hole saws for other
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2. GM 12SI Alternator Connection ??? (Steve Liebenow)
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 21:18:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ken Green <[5][11]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: Detomaso List <[6][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] A good deal on Lenox carbide blade hole saws
for
other tool addicts
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I bought some of these, good prices to buy 4 or more of them:
1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed |
eBay
|
|
|
| | |
|
|
|
| |
1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed |
eBay
Choose from Various Sizes listed 4 in (102mm). 3 & 3/4 in (95mm).
3 &
5/8 in (92mm). 3 & 1/2 in (89mm). 3 & 3/8 ...
|
|
|
-------------- next part --------------
I bought some of these, good prices to buy 4 or more of them:
[1]1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed
|
eBay
[ebay.png]
1 - LENOX Carbide Hole Saw: Choose from Various Sizes listed
| eBay
Choose from Various Sizes listed 4 in (102mm). 3 & 3/4 in
(95mm). 3
&
5/8 in (92mm). 3 & 1/2 in (89mm). 3 & 3/8 ...
References
Visible links
1. [8][14]https://www.ebay.com/itm/254953581803
Hidden links:
3. [9][15]https://www.ebay.com/itm/254953581803
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 23:23:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Liebenow <[10][16]steven.liebenow at att.net>
To: Detomaso List <[11][17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] GM 12SI Alternator Connection ???
Message-ID:
<[12][18]316043790.1954399.1649287425594 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Guys,
Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion......with absolutely
no
instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt
bracket.????
Everything after that is free??? Free to find it wherever you
can.......?? I'll stop here for the moment.
Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and
installing
a 97A GM 12si version.?? No, I do not need all the
amperage.......no
EFI, no big stereo.....
SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator.? #1 and #2.???
Bat+ is
pretty evident.......duh!
This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good
their
search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
anything.....grrrrr.....? I have this:
Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to
the
Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term
"I" and
this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain
your
battery......albeit slowly.???
Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of the
time
(or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire,
terminal
"A" from the old harness.
Regulator Terminals? S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no
longer
used. (internal stator windings and control)
If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in handy
about
now.
Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I
bought
a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car
apart!!!??? It's
around here somewhere......? and I'm rearranging components on my
starter solenoid/coil panel to boot.? Need new room for heater
hose
support and my inline rust filter!? I don't want my heater hoses
laying
on the alternator!
Thanks in advance!
Steve
-------------- next part --------------
Guys,
Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion......with absolutely
no
instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt
bracket.
Everything after that is free? Free to find it wherever you
can....... I'll stop here for the moment.
Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and
installing
a 97A GM 12si version. No, I do not need all the
amperage.......no
EFI, no big stereo.....
SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator. #1 and #2.
Bat+
is
pretty evident.......duh!
This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good
their
search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
anything.....grrrrr..... I have this:
Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to
the
Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term
"I"
and
this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain
your
battery......albeit slowly.
Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of
the
time
(or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire,
terminal
"A" from the old harness.
Regulator Terminals S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no
longer
used. (internal stator windings and control)
If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in
handy
about
now.
Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I
bought
a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car apart!!!
It's
around here somewhere...... and I'm rearranging components on
my
starter solenoid/coil panel to boot. Need new room for heater
hose
support and my inline rust filter! I don't want my heater
hoses
laying
on the alternator!
Thanks in advance!
Steve
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