[DeTomaso] Active suspension for Pantera

David david at msmcontractors.org
Mon Sep 20 14:41:15 EDT 2021


I got SAAC magnetic switchable shocks. 
They are street or track settings.
Just flip a switch.
Love em.
David Finley
3659

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>   Thank you Dick, I appreciate the insight.
> 
>   We're looking to replace shocks on Dennis Antenucci's Pantera,  he's
>   got Alden on there now, so we're considering rebuild or replace with
>   something new like Koni or QA1.  Dawg remembered some other Pantera
>   with active suspension and it turned out to be yours,
> 
>   Thank you sir,
> 
>   :)
> 
>   Asa Jay
>   Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:53, Dick Koch <redcatman74 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Sadly, not that I know of, but you would think someone would have come
>   up with a system by now.
>   If someone had the knowhow and money, they probably could scavenge a
>   late model car's active suspension (wrecked C8 Corvette comes to mind),
>   but would probably be limited to the stock shock absorber settings set
>   by the manufacturer.
>   Some of the early active suspension designs had parts of the system
>   mounted outside of the shock, which could pose a retrofit hassle.
>   Dick's design has all the necessary feedback electronics in the shock
>   itself, making the installation rather simple, with one cable to each
>   shock from the controller.
>   Dick Koch - Atlanta
>   On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 1:17 PM Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay at asajay.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>   Sick,
>   So, what I'm hearing you say is that the system is awesome but anyone
>   else who wanted one today would not be able to get one.
>   Is there anything else out there comparable to it?
>   Asa  Jay
>   Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Sep 17, 2021, at 05:26, Dick Koch <[2]redcatman74 at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
> 
>   Mike, you are correct. I installed Magneshock's Magneto-Rheological
>   (MR) technology system 17 years ago.. To learn more about Dick
>   Anderson's system, Google "Magneshocks"
>   A direct link to how it works:
>   [3]http://www.magneshocks.com/howitworks.html
>   At the time, Dick was a leading innovator and developer of the
>   technology and applying it to automotive applications, initially aimed
>   at selling the system to the US army to retrofit the US Army's Humvee
>   inventory.
>   Due to a non-compete restriction when he sold Carrera shocks, his
>   retail market was limited to race car usage.
>   As a friend of Dick, he sold me the system as a way to show how it
>   could be used on a street car. Folks may not remember, but when I went
>   to the 2006 Pantera get together in Las Vegas, we tested the system at
>   the Pahrump Valley racetrack.
>   The system is unique, even with the use of the technology in current
>   main line automobiles, in it's ability for the user to set up and
>   change the shock reactive programs, and save the 5 programs, each
>   program allowing the setting of individual reactive variables for each
>   of the four shocks, depending on the track and road conditions. I
>   applied my own twist on the system where I can switch instantly from
>   one program setting to another, while underway, by use of thumb
>   switches I installed on the steering wheel spokes.
>   Dick was way ahead of his time, and sadly being encumbered by his
>   non-compete restrictions, and Lord, the company that held the patent on
>   the fluid used in magneto-rheological shocks, reneging on their
>   agreement to supply him with the fluid for his government market,
>   Dick's company closed down.
>   The system came with all the cables and controller ready to install. I
>   installed the control box in the front trunk along with the methanol
>   injection pump and tank, with the control box connected to the program
>   module in the cabin.
>   In the Vegas trip, I had Dick riding in the passenger seat, and based
>   on my need to change the "stiffness" of the shocks, he would instantly
>   change the settings for each shock. Once I was satisfied with the
>   changes, he saved them in one of the 5 available program settings, that
>   could be recalled later with the turn of a knob on the dash, or using
>   the thumb switches on the steering wheel.
>   With my current refresh of my car nearing completion, I will be able to
>   enjoy the benefits of the system again.
>   [4]https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=6327103987329547&id=1000
>   00900252005
>   On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 7:32 PM MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
>   <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>     AJ,
>     It's Georgia, Dick Koch in Atlanta (original owner of a `74 GTS) who
>     several years ago said he had partnered with an aftermarket company
>     to bring modern shocks to the Pantera.
>     Dick? What's the status?
>     Mike
>     Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 15:03, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>     <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I've heard rumor of a red Pantera in Florida with some kind of
>     electronically controlled shock system.  Does anyone know anything
>     about that?
>> 
>> What other active suspension systems are out there for Panteras?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Asa Jay
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>   1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
>   2. mailto:redcatman74 at gmail.com
>   3. http://www.magneshocks.com/howitworks.html
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