[DeTomaso] Oil pan for a '73 Cleveland recommendations
Dave Londry
davel at trguys.com
Wed Sep 8 19:27:45 EDT 2021
I also bought a Kevco 13 years ago and it has been excellent.
When I talked to the lady there, who was family, she said their road
race pans were descended from their the circle track pans they'd been
making forever. They'd just made the oil control work the same way for
right turns.
I've given it some decent chances to show oil starvation and nada.
Dave
On 2021-09-07 1:39 p.m., Konrad Szwab wrote:
> Of course I bought the Kevko...
> We will see how it works. By the pics it has some guts, not an empty
> bowl.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Mike Drew <[1]mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Seconding what Julian said.
> Aviaid has been building racing pans since the early 1960s if not
> before. Their Pantera pan is terrific, and they are liable to have
> them in stock.
> Armando was an employee of Aviaid who fled to Texas and brought all
> their intellectual property with him, in his head. So he builds
> identical pans, and sells for a few dollars less I think. You may
> have to wait a bit.
> I donat know about Kevko pans. They may have reverse-engineered an
> Aviaid pan as well? I hope they didnat copy Miloden.
> Miloden made a Pantera pan that was absolutely shameful. It was
> nothing but a 10-quart bucket with nothing inside. The first time I
> got to see the inside of one was when a connecting rod came flying
> out the side of Larry Stockas pan at the track in Vegas. He has
> bought the motor with the pan installed and from the outside it
> looked like an Aviaid. Only after it failed to do its job and oil
> starvation in corners caused the engine to blow up did we all learn
> the truth.
> No matter what pan you go with, you do NOT need a different dipstick
> arrangement. Your car should have a dipstick with a yellow handle
> and measure 38 inches from tip to cup. The dipstick controls the oil
> level relative to the bottom of the crankshaft. You could have Lake
> Michigan hanging under your car and would still want to retain that
> same top oil level.
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Sep 7, 2021, at 10:02, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > i>>?A A Your choices for a 9 quart Pantera specific pan are;
> >
> >A A Aviaid
> [1][3]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
> >A A land.html
> >
> >A A Armando's [2][4]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
> >
> >A A Kevko
> [3][5]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-
> >A A pan
> >
> >A A Julian
> >A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> >
> >A A From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> >A A Konrad Szwab <[7]kszwab at gmail.com>
> >A A Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:57 AM
> >A A To: [8]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >A A <[9]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Steve Dragos
> >A A <[10]maycoperformance at yahoo.com>
> >A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil pan for a '73 Cleveland
> recommendations
> >
> >A A Sooo after 6 years in the shop when we were ready to drive it
> out, last
> >A A weekend a spot weld broke in the oil pan baffle and rubbed
> against the
> >A A crankshaft.
> >A A No damage, but I need a new oil pan.
> >A A Hall Pantera does not sell them and Pantera Performance is not
> >A A answering
> >A A the phone.
> >A A Who should I contact, maybe Summit Racing ?
> >A A Any thoughts ?
> >A A Thanks,
> >A A Konrad
> >
> > References
> >
> >A A 1.
> [11]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_clevelan
> d.html
> >A A 2. [12]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
> >A A 3.
> [13]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pa
> n
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> 1. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
> 2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 3. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
> 4. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
> 5. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-
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> 10. mailto:maycoperformance at yahoo.com
> 11. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleveland.html
> 12. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
> 13. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
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I also bought a Kevco 13 years ago and it has been excellent.
When I talked to the lady there, who was family, she said their road
race pans were descended from their the circle track pans they'd been
making forever. They'd just made the oil control work the same way for
right turns.
I've given it some decent chances to show oil starvation and nada.
Dave
On 2021-09-07 1:39 p.m., Konrad Szwab wrote:
Of course I bought the Kevko...
We will see how it works. By the pics it has some guts, not an empty
bowl.
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Mike Drew [1]<[1]mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
Seconding what Julian said.
Aviaid has been building racing pans since the early 1960s if not
before. Their Pantera pan is terrific, and they are liable to have
them in stock.
Armando was an employee of Aviaid who fled to Texas and brought all
their intellectual property with him, in his head. So he builds
identical pans, and sells for a few dollars less I think. You may
have to wait a bit.
I donat know about Kevko pans. They may have reverse-engineered an
Aviaid pan as well? I hope they didnat copy Miloden.
Miloden made a Pantera pan that was absolutely shameful. It was
nothing but a 10-quart bucket with nothing inside. The first time I
got to see the inside of one was when a connecting rod came flying
out the side of Larry Stockas pan at the track in Vegas. He has
bought the motor with the pan installed and from the outside it
looked like an Aviaid. Only after it failed to do its job and oil
starvation in corners caused the engine to blow up did we all learn
the truth.
No matter what pan you go with, you do NOT need a different dipstick
arrangement. Your car should have a dipstick with a yellow handle
and measure 38 inches from tip to cup. The dipstick controls the oil
level relative to the bottom of the crankshaft. You could have Lake
Michigan hanging under your car and would still want to retain that
same top oil level.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 7, 2021, at 10:02, Julian Kift [2]<[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> i>>?A A Your choices for a 9 quart Pantera specific pan are;
>
>A A Aviaid
[1][3][3]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
>A A land.html
>
>A A Armando's [2][4][4]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
>
>A A Kevko
[3][5][5]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-
>A A pan
>
>A A Julian
>A A
A __________________________________________________________________
>
>A A From: DeTomaso [6]<[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
>A A Konrad Szwab [7]<[7]kszwab at gmail.com>
>A A Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:57 AM
>A A To: [[8]8]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>A A [9]<[9]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Steve Dragos
>A A [10]<[10]maycoperformance at yahoo.com>
>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil pan for a '73 Cleveland
recommendations
>
>A A Sooo after 6 years in the shop when we were ready to drive it
out, last
>A A weekend a spot weld broke in the oil pan baffle and rubbed
against the
>A A crankshaft.
>A A No damage, but I need a new oil pan.
>A A Hall Pantera does not sell them and Pantera Performance is not
>A A answering
>A A the phone.
>A A Who should I contact, maybe Summit Racing ?
>A A Any thoughts ?
>A A Thanks,
>A A Konrad
>
> References
>
>A A 1.
[11][11]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_clevelan
d.html
>A A 2. [12][12]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
>A A 3.
[13][13]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pa
n
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2. [17]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. [18]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
4. [19]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
5. [20]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-
6. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
7. [22]mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
8. [23]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
9. [24]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
10. [25]mailto:maycoperformance at yahoo.com
11. [26]https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleveland.html
12. [27]http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
13. [28]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
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2. mailto:[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
4. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
5. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera
6. mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
7. mailto:[7]kszwab at gmail.com
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9. mailto:[9]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
10. mailto:[10]maycoperformance at yahoo.com
11. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_clevelan
12. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
13. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pa
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18. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleve
19. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
20. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera
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22. mailto:kszwab at gmail.com
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25. mailto:maycoperformance at yahoo.com
26. https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ws_oilpns_sbf_cleveland.html
27. http://www.aroilpans.com/Roadrace.html
28. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
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