[DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 9 16:15:54 EDT 2021


 I found this Holley part that might replace the fuel fill in the top of the tank?  Requires a minimum 3 7/8 hole, I'm not sure that is too big, looks really close:
Holley 12-139 Holley Fuel Cell EFI Pump Module Assembly

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Holley 12-139 Holley Fuel Cell EFI Pump Module Assembly

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    On Saturday, October 9, 2021, 12:43:02 PM PDT, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:  
 
   With an in-tank pump, it makes sense to use a new late model sender
  with its own fuel-out line. Not only is the assembly brand new &
  clean,  but it's smaller overall, making it easier to get the sender
  assembly w/pump back in the tank thru the stock opening. And if you
  have plans for more than 450 carbureted bhp any time in the future, you
  can replace the sender's small diameter fuel-out line for the next size
  larger. The stock size simply won't supply enough fuel for that much
  power except for short full throttle bursts. In an early tank, the
  stock banjo fitting fuel-out line can be used for an EFI fuel return.
  Some carbureted setups use a fuel return, too.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>
  To: 'Detomaso' <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
  Cc: 'Mike Drew' <mikeldrew at aol.com>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
  Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2021 10:20 am
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
  I chose to tap the gas tank's drain hole to a larger A 3/4-14NPT pipe
  taper thread.  The drain seat in the tank tapped very well due to the
  metal not being very hard.  I borrowed this idea from Jeff Kimball who
  used this same tank conversion technique for his twin-turbo Pantera.
  Next I installed a (3/4" NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Bushing
  (NAPA-Weatherhead #3220x12x8) into the newly tapped tank hole and then
  a  Brass (1/2' NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Elbow onto that.  This
  gets you converted to fractional fittings, keeps the fuel plumbing
  close to tank bottom for max ground clearance, and gives you a healthy
  1/2" ID fuel feed capability.
  Doug Braun
  Blue 73L #5505
  -----Original Message-----
  From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
  Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:53 PM
  To: Mike Drew <[1]mikeldrew at aol.com>
  Cc: Detomaso List <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
  That seems the consensus, M22 1.5.  When I search for a plug this size
  I found a lot of then for various European cars for transmissions etc.
  Seems a common drain plug.
      On Friday, October 8, 2021, 03:46:50 PM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
  <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
  Ken,
  I believe its M22 pipe thread?
  Mike
  Sent from my iPad
  > On Oct 9, 2021, at 01:52, Ken Green via DeTomaso
  <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
  >
  > i>>?  PS,
  >      I found a banjo fitting and replaced the gas tank plug with it,
  >but
  >  not not sure I can find the original plug to put it back in the
  tank.
  >  Does anyone know the thread, or even have one laying around?
  >  Ken
  >
  >  On Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:12:34 AM PDT, Ken Green
  >  <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
  >  An in-tank pump seems the best approach with minimum exposed hoses
  >and
  >  fittings.  Has anyone done this in their Pantera?
  >  Thanks,
  >  Ken
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   I found this Holley part that might replace the fuel fill in the top of
   the tank?  Requires a minimum 3 7/8 hole, I'm not sure that is too big,
   looks really close:
   [1]Holley 12-139 Holley Fuel Cell EFI Pump Module Assembly

Holley 12-139 Holley Fuel Cell EFI Pump Module Assembly

   Updating your racing fuel system to EFI is so simple! Holley is excited
   to introduce our Holley Fuel Cell EFI Pu...

   On Saturday, October 9, 2021, 12:43:02 PM PDT, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     With an in-tank pump, it makes sense to use a new late model sender
     with its own fuel-out line. Not only is the assembly brand new &
     clean,  but it's smaller overall, making it easier to get the sender
     assembly w/pump back in the tank thru the stock opening. And if you
     have plans for more than 450 carbureted bhp any time in the future,
   you
     can replace the sender's small diameter fuel-out line for the next
   size
     larger. The stock size simply won't supply enough fuel for that much
     power except for short full throttle bursts. In an early tank, the
     stock banjo fitting fuel-out line can be used for an EFI fuel return.
     Some carbureted setups use a fuel return, too.
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Doug Braun <[2]doug351c at gmail.com>
     To: 'Detomaso' <[3]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
     Cc: 'Mike Drew' <[4]mikeldrew at aol.com>; 'Ken Green'
   <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
     Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2021 10:20 am
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
     I chose to tap the gas tank's drain hole to a larger A 3/4-14NPT pipe
     taper thread.  The drain seat in the tank tapped very well due to the
     metal not being very hard.  I borrowed this idea from Jeff Kimball
   who
     used this same tank conversion technique for his twin-turbo Pantera.
     Next I installed a (3/4" NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Bushing
     (NAPA-Weatherhead #3220x12x8) into the newly tapped tank hole and
   then
     a  Brass (1/2' NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Elbow onto that.
   This
     gets you converted to fractional fittings, keeps the fuel plumbing
     close to tank bottom for max ground clearance, and gives you a
   healthy
     1/2" ID fuel feed capability.
     Doug Braun
     Blue 73L #5505
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:53 PM
     To: Mike Drew <[1][6]mikeldrew at aol.com>
     Cc: Detomaso List <[2][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
     That seems the consensus, M22 1.5.  When I search for a plug this
   size
     I found a lot of then for various European cars for transmissions
   etc.
     Seems a common drain plug.
         On Friday, October 8, 2021, 03:46:50 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
   DeTomaso
     <[3][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Ken,
     I believe its M22 pipe thread?
     Mike
     Sent from my iPad
     > On Oct 9, 2021, at 01:52, Ken Green via DeTomaso
     <[4][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     >
     > i>>?  PS,
     >      I found a banjo fitting and replaced the gas tank plug with
   it,
     >but
     >  not not sure I can find the original plug to put it back in the
     tank.
     >  Does anyone know the thread, or even have one laying around?
     >  Ken
     >
     >  On Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:12:34 AM PDT, Ken Green
     >  <[5][10]kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
     >  An in-tank pump seems the best approach with minimum exposed hoses
     >and
     >  fittings.  Has anyone done this in their Pantera?
     >  Thanks,
     >  Ken
     > _______________________________________________
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