[DeTomaso] Looking for a right side GTS header

Tom Shinrock tmshinro at aol.com
Mon Mar 1 22:05:05 EST 2021


Mike,
I thought Wilkinson offered GTS headers and mufflers.   You had commented that they were the way to go a while back.
Have things changed?
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for a right side GTS header

Chuck,

Presumably your car has stock mufflers. Only Hall Big Bore headers will fit stock mufflers, and despite looking dubious, Dan Jones’ testing has revealed that Hall headers are really quite good. 

If you wish to transition to GTS headers, necessarily that means buying new GTS mufflers too.  So be careful what you wish for!

It seems GTS headers are no longer available new from the traditional source (Hall). At least, they aren’t listed on the website any longer. It’s possible other vendors may have them on the shelf. GTS mufflers are still available from Hall however. 

I think the best headers for GTS mufflers are PI Big Throat/Mind Train, or Hedmann from Pantera Parts Connection. Factory GTS headers (which I have on my car) have pipes that are too big and a collector that is too small...l

Mike

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> On Mar 1, 2021, at 18:15, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Dear Mike,
> 
>              You like stories and it is uncommon that somebody only wants a single header.  
> 
>            The rest of the story:  I bought an orphan *left* GTS header from Kirby Schrader last spring.  It was flawed and I just finished the repair.  If I can find an orphan *right* side header then voila!  I can replace the  Hall Big Bore Headers on Pantera Two.  If not, then I have got a left spare for Pantera One.
> 
>            No colorful Hollywood mechanical carnage has occurred.
> 
>            Back to recreational Pantera driving after the Attack of the Polar Vortex:  It's *over*!
> 
>                                  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew [mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 7:58 PM
> To: Charles Engles
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for a right side GTS header
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> You can’t issue such a request without offering a corresponding story!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 17:44, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>   Dear Forum,
>> 
>> 
>>                    I am looking for an orphan lonely right side GTS
>>  header only.  Not a set and not the left side, just a GTS header for
>>  the right side.
>> 
>> 
>>                                      Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>> 
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   Mike,
   I thought Wilkinson offered GTS headers and mufflers.   You had
   commented that they were the way to go a while back.
   Have things changed?
   Tom
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:42 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for a right side GTS header
   Chuck,
   Presumably your car has stock mufflers. Only Hall Big Bore headers will
   fit stock mufflers, and despite looking dubious, Dan Jonesa testing has
   revealed that Hall headers are really quite good.
   If you wish to transition to GTS headers, necessarily that means buying
   new GTS mufflers too.  So be careful what you wish for!
   It seems GTS headers are no longer available new from the traditional
   source (Hall). At least, they arenat listed on the website any longer.
   Itas possible other vendors may have them on the shelf. GTS mufflers
   are still available from Hall however.
   I think the best headers for GTS mufflers are PI Big Throat/Mind Train,
   or Hedmann from Pantera Parts Connection. Factory GTS headers (which I
   have on my car) have pipes that are too big and a collector that is too
   small...l
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Mar 1, 2021, at 18:15, Charles Engles <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >
   > i>>?Dear Mike,
   >
   >              You like stories and it is uncommon that somebody only
   wants a single header.
   >
   >            The rest of the story:  I bought an orphan *left* GTS
   header from Kirby Schrader last spring.  It was flawed and I just
   finished the repair.  If I can find an orphan *right* side header then
   voila!  I can replace the  Hall Big Bore Headers on Pantera Two.  If
   not, then I have got a left spare for Pantera One.
   >
   >            No colorful Hollywood mechanical carnage has occurred.
   >
   >            Back to recreational Pantera driving after the Attack of
   the Polar Vortex:  It's *over*!
   >
   >                                  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Mike Drew [mailto:[2]mikeldrew at aol.com]
   > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 7:58 PM
   > To: Charles Engles
   > Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Looking for a right side GTS header
   >
   > Chuck,
   >
   > You canat issue such a request without offering a corresponding
   story!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On Mar 1, 2021, at 17:44, Charles Engles <[4]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >>
   >> i>>?  Dear Forum,
   >>
   >>
   >>                    I am looking for an orphan lonely right side GTS
   >>  header only.  Not a set and not the left side, just a GTS header
   for
   >>  the right side.
   >>
   >>
   >>                                      Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   >>
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