[DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 27 16:34:09 EDT 2021


Mike,

Koni list the rebuild at $125-155 + parts per damper, so you're probably close at $200 each all in.

Julian

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops

Julian,

I don’t think the cost is all that nominal. I seem to recall they charge something like $200 each? Am I wrong?

Mike

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> On Jun 27, 2021, at 08:10, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>    I'm pretty sure Marino is still active, but even if not, you are
>   sending the shocks direct to Koni, not back to the point of purchase.
>   Koni offer a rebuild service for a nominal amount even if you don't
>   have the original receipt.
>
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
>
>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>   Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>
>   Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 8:07 AM
>   To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>; 'Charles Engles'
>   <cengles at cox.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops
>
>   Thanks Doug,
>   Unfortunately I purchased my shocks from Pantera East (Marino Perna)
>   and I believe his Pantera business is no longer active.
>   If anybody knows that this is not true please let me know.  Also if you
>   can provide contact information that would be helpful.
>   Thanks
>
>   On 6/26/21, 2:59 PM, "Doug Braun" <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
>       Chuck and Frank,
>       AFIK, KONI shocks are lifetime guaranteed for the original
>   purchaser.  If you're fortunate enough to have kept your receipt, you
>   can send the shock(s) to them and they'll not only replace the bump
>   stop but also rebuild the shock to "like new".  I had that done to one
>   of mine that had failed but it was 15, or so, years ago.
>       Doug Braun
>       Blue 73L #5505
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Frank Lisi
>       Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:15 AM
>       To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>;
>   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops
>       Hi Chuck,
>       What a coincidence, I just started attempting to resolve my Konis'
>   deteriorated crumbling bump stops.  I found the replacement part on
>   Amazon, (of all places) sold by a third party seller called Performance
>   Guarantee (I believe they only sell through Amazon I could not find
>   their direct web site)
>       The part number is Koni 71 34 42 000 0, two bump stops for $25.63.
>   That said I am not sure this is the exact replacement part as my
>   existing stops are deteriorated and any number indications are long
>   gone.  Once I receive the parts I will let you know.
>       BTW the thought of needing to disassemble and reassemble all four
>   shocks does not excite me.  I am willing to send them to a service to
>   have the replacements installed, however I have not begun that
>   search.
>       The Koni web site is
>   [1]https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/Products/Accessories/Bump
>   Rubbers/
>       Let me know what you find.
>       All the Best
>       Frank Lisi
>       On 6/25/21, 12:48 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>              Dear Forum,
>                        During a long sporty drive this week there was a
>   new
>              squeaky/squealy noise from the right corner only during
>   left turns at
>              more than 35 mph or so.  I thought that the high positive
>   caster had
>              resulted in the tire contacting the fender lip.  I had
>   solved that
>              problem over twenty years ago and I did not understand why
>   it would
>              return.
>                         Inspection showed no obvious fender contact on
>   the tire nor
>              of tire contact on the fender.  I removed the wheels and did
>   not see
>              evidence for a leaky, failing Koni shock.
>                         I did find that the bump stops, both right and
>   left, look
>              they are well into crumbling deterioration.  I think that
>   the smaller
>              effective bump stop permitted more suspension travel which
>   did allow
>              some tire-fender lip contact for brief periods.
>                        It obviously happens, but I have not heard of
>   failing bump
>              stops.  I presume that this mundane failing part will
>   require shock
>              removal to replace the bump stop?    Has anyone else been
>   down this
>              proverbial road?
>                                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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   Mike,

   Koni list the rebuild at $125-155 + parts per damper, so you're
   probably close at $200 each all in.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 11:33 AM
   To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>; Doug Braun
   <doug351c at gmail.com>; Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops

   Julian,
   I don't think the cost is all that nominal. I seem to recall they
   charge something like $200 each? Am I wrong?
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Jun 27, 2021, at 08:10, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >    I'm pretty sure Marino is still active, but even if not, you are
   >   sending the shocks direct to Koni, not back to the point of
   purchase.
   >   Koni offer a rebuild service for a nominal amount even if you don't
   >   have the original receipt.
   >
   >   Julian
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of
   >   Frank Lisi <fjlisi at mediacombb.net>
   >   Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 8:07 AM
   >   To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>; 'Charles Engles'
   >   <cengles at cox.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops
   >
   >   Thanks Doug,
   >   Unfortunately I purchased my shocks from Pantera East (Marino
   Perna)
   >   and I believe his Pantera business is no longer active.
   >   If anybody knows that this is not true please let me know.  Also if
   you
   >   can provide contact information that would be helpful.
   >   Thanks
   >
   >   On 6/26/21, 2:59 PM, "Doug Braun" <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:
   >       Chuck and Frank,
   >       AFIK, KONI shocks are lifetime guaranteed for the original
   >   purchaser.  If you're fortunate enough to have kept your receipt,
   you
   >   can send the shock(s) to them and they'll not only replace the bump
   >   stop but also rebuild the shock to "like new".  I had that done to
   one
   >   of mine that had failed but it was 15, or so, years ago.
   >       Doug Braun
   >       Blue 73L #5505
   >       -----Original Message-----
   >       From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Frank Lisi
   >       Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:15 AM
   >       To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>;
   >   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: Koni shock bump stops
   >       Hi Chuck,
   >       What a coincidence, I just started attempting to resolve my
   Konis'
   >   deteriorated crumbling bump stops.  I found the replacement part on
   >   Amazon, (of all places) sold by a third party seller called
   Performance
   >   Guarantee (I believe they only sell through Amazon I could not find
   >   their direct web site)
   >       The part number is Koni 71 34 42 000 0, two bump stops for
   $25.63.
   >   That said I am not sure this is the exact replacement part as my
   >   existing stops are deteriorated and any number indications are long
   >   gone.  Once I receive the parts I will let you know.
   >       BTW the thought of needing to disassemble and reassemble all
   four
   >   shocks does not excite me.  I am willing to send them to a service
   to
   >   have the replacements installed, however I have not begun that
   >   search.
   >       The Koni web site is
   >
   [1]https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/Products/Accessories/Bump
   >   Rubbers/
   >       Let me know what you find.
   >       All the Best
   >       Frank Lisi
   >       On 6/25/21, 12:48 PM, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >              Dear Forum,
   >                        During a long sporty drive this week there was
   a
   >   new
   >              squeaky/squealy noise from the right corner only during
   >   left turns at
   >              more than 35 mph or so.  I thought that the high
   positive
   >   caster had
   >              resulted in the tire contacting the fender lip.  I had
   >   solved that
   >              problem over twenty years ago and I did not understand
   why
   >   it would
   >              return.
   >                         Inspection showed no obvious fender contact
   on
   >   the tire nor
   >              of tire contact on the fender.  I removed the wheels and
   did
   >   not see
   >              evidence for a leaky, failing Koni shock.
   >                         I did find that the bump stops, both right
   and
   >   left, look
   >              they are well into crumbling deterioration.  I think
   that
   >   the smaller
   >              effective bump stop permitted more suspension travel
   which
   >   did allow
   >              some tire-fender lip contact for brief periods.
   >                        It obviously happens, but I have not heard of
   >   failing bump
   >              stops.  I presume that this mundane failing part will
   >   require shock
   >              removal to replace the bump stop?    Has anyone else
   been
   >   down this
   >              proverbial road?
   >                                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   >       _______________________________________________
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   >   1.
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   Rubbers/
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