[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 205, Issue 20
Wes Palmer
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> 1. Re: Steve Lisa - Road America (Steve Lisa)
> 2. Re: Steve Lisa - Road America (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 3. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (gt40 at sbcglobal.net)
> 4. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Jerry Knotts)
> 5. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Terry Appleby)
> 6. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Mike & Elizabeth)
> 7. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (MARK CHARLTON)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:56:04 -0500
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steve Lisa - Road America
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> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera. (Jim, the fast Jag
> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class. He finished 10th out
> of 27 overall.
>
> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great tire
> wear, but likely dead shocks. It needs new shocks all the way around. We
> be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>
> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the DP02
> Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
>
> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
> detailed update later in the week.
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>> That is awesome Steve. It's a wonderful new chapter in the life of
>> 5533. If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great article
>> for the POCA Profiles. It's original purchase was written up way back
>> in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it. Then later I
>> think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC one
>> year, I can't recall. Seeing a new article around your experience
>> with
>> the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the track
>> would
>> be a thrill to read.
>> Keep up the great work. You've got a nice care there. :)
>> Asa Jay
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>> ******************************
>> [1]https://w7tsc.org
>> [2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>> On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>>
>> Jim,A
>> You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a very real
>> member of the Patent It! Race Team.A You are so knowledgeable about
>> he
>> Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us telling
>> all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>> A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>> Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels (pro,
>> desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>> incredible
>> event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A After every
>> session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the car.
>> And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they loved
>> the
>> originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A I am glad we waited
>> until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest vintage race
>> of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>> Tomorrow are our two main races.A I will share all pictures and
>> results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed writeup
>> when we get home.
>> We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>> Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and said hello
>> and for the technical advice and support received by this club over
>> the
>> last few years.A We would not be racing without POCA.
>> Steve.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>> [3]<[1]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
>>
>> A A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the wheel.
>> Steve was
>> A A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>> A A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public including
>> many
>> A A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
>> effort)
>> A A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful conversations with
>> everyone
>> A A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the reactions
>> were
>> A A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting stories
>> overheard
>> A A by yours truly.
>> A A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I will not
>> A A experience the feature race.
>> A A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the weekend
>> A A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty sure he
>> has
>> A A some pictures and videos.
>> A A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>> flawlessly. Very
>> A A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken by
>> Steve,
>> A A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation of
>> the badge.
>> A A The car looked great on the track as well as in the paddock.
>> A A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
>> campaigning the
>> A A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to see it
>> in
>> A A action.
>> A A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and KC
>> for
>> A A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for their
>> A A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47 years)
>> Pantera
>> A A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the track.
>> A A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera.A (Jim, the fast Jag
> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.A He finished 10th
> out of 27 overall.A A
> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
> tire wear, but likely dead shocks.A It needs new shocks all the way
> around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
> DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.A A
> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
> detailed update later in the week.
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
> <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> A A That is awesome Steve.A It's a wonderful new chapter in the
> life of
> A A 5533.A If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
> article
> A A for the POCA Profiles.A It's original purchase was written up
> way back
> A A in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it.A Then
> later I
> A A think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC
> one
> A A year, I can't recall.A Seeing a new article around your
> experience with
> A A the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the
> track would
> A A be a thrill to read.
> A A Keep up the great work.A You've got a nice care there. :)
> A A AsaA Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
> ******************************
> [1][2]https://w7tsc.org
> [2][3]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
> A A On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
> A A Jim,A
> A A You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a
> very real
> A A member of the Patent It! Race Team.AA You are so knowledgeable
> about he
> A A Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
> telling
> A A all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
> A A A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
> A A Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels
> (pro,
> A A desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
> incredible
> A A event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.AA After
> every
> A A session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
> car.
> A A And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
> loved the
> A A originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).AA I am glad we
> waited
> A A until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest
> vintage race
> A A of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
> A A Tomorrow are our two main races.AA I will share all pictures
> and
> A A results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
> writeup
> A A when we get home.
> A A We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
> A A Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and
> said hello
> A A and for the technical advice and support received by this club
> over the
> A A last few years.AA We would not be racing without POCA.
> A A Steve.
> A A On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
> A A [3]<[1][4]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the
> wheel.
> A A A Steve was
> A A A AA A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
> A A A AA A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public
> including
> A A A many
> A A A AA A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and
> his
> A A A effort)
> A A A AA A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful
> conversations with
> A A A everyone
> A A A AA A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
> reactions
> A A A were
> A A A AA A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
> stories
> A A A overheard
> A A A AA A by yours truly.
> A A A AA A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I
> will not
> A A A AA A experience the feature race.
> A A A AA A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
> weekend
> A A A AA A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am
> pretty sure he
> A A A has
> A A A AA A some pictures and videos.
> A A A AA A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
> A A A flawlessly. Very
> A A A AA A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care
> taken by
> A A A Steve,
> A A A AA A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper
> representation of
> A A A the badge.
> A A A AA A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
> paddock.
> A A A AA A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he
> is
> A A A campaigning the
> A A A AA A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to
> see it
> A A A in
> A A A AA A action.
> A A A AA A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony,
> and KC
> A A A for
> A A A AA A allowing me to share in the experience this week and
> for their
> A A A AA A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time
> (47 years)
> A A A Pantera
> A A A AA A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the
> track.
> A A A AA A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:04:09 -0700
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steve Lisa - Road America
> Message-ID: <18d5ecaf-d934-2ba1-ce9f-f8e6ac214ea9 at asajay.com>
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> Great Showing Steve, both you and Tony. :)
>
> Asa? Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
> ******************************
> https://w7tsc.org
> https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> On 7/18/2021 17:56, Steve Lisa wrote:
>> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera. (Jim, the fast Jag
>> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.? He finished 10th
>> out of 27 overall.
>>
>> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
>> tire wear, but likely dead shocks.? It needs new shocks all the way
>> around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>>
>> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
>> DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
>>
>> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
>> detailed update later in the week.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ? ?That is awesome Steve.? It's a wonderful new chapter in the life
>> of
>> ? ?5533.? If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
>> article
>> ? ?for the POCA Profiles.? It's original purchase was written up
>> way back
>> ? ?in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it. Then
>> later I
>> ? ?think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC one
>> ? ?year, I can't recall.? Seeing a new article around your
>> experience with
>> ? ?the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the
>> track would
>> ? ?be a thrill to read.
>> ? ?Keep up the great work.? You've got a nice care there. :)
>> ? ?Asa? Jay
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>> ******************************
>> [1]https://w7tsc.org <https://w7tsc.org>
>> [2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> <https://www.teampanteraracing.com>
>>
>> ? ?On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>>
>> ? ?Jim,A
>> ? ?You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a
>> very real
>> ? ?member of the Patent It! Race Team.A? You are so knowledgeable
>> about he
>> ? ?Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
>> telling
>> ? ?all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>> ? ?A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>> ? ?Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels (pro,
>> ? ?desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>> incredible
>> ? ?event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A After
>> every
>> ? ?session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
>> car.
>> ? ?And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
>> loved the
>> ? ?originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A? I am glad we waited
>> ? ?until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest
>> vintage race
>> ? ?of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>> ? ?Tomorrow are our two main races.A? I will share all pictures and
>> ? ?results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
>> writeup
>> ? ?when we get home.
>> ? ?We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>> ? ?Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and
>> said hello
>> ? ?and for the technical advice and support received by this club
>> over the
>> ? ?last few years.A? We would not be racing without POCA.
>> ? ?Steve.
>>
>> ? ?On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>> ? ?[3]<[1]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
>> <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ? ? ?A? A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the wheel.
>> ? ? ?Steve was
>> ? ? ?A? A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>> ? ? ?A? A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public including
>> ? ? ?many
>> ? ? ?A? A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
>> ? ? ?effort)
>> ? ? ?A? A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful
>> conversations with
>> ? ? ?everyone
>> ? ? ?A? A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
>> reactions
>> ? ? ?were
>> ? ? ?A? A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
>> stories
>> ? ? ?overheard
>> ? ? ?A? A by yours truly.
>> ? ? ?A? A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I
>> will not
>> ? ? ?A? A experience the feature race.
>> ? ? ?A? A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
>> weekend
>> ? ? ?A? A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty
>> sure he
>> ? ? ?has
>> ? ? ?A? A some pictures and videos.
>> ? ? ?A? A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>> ? ? ?flawlessly. Very
>> ? ? ?A? A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken by
>> ? ? ?Steve,
>> ? ? ?A? A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation
>> of
>> ? ? ?the badge.
>> ? ? ?A? A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
>> paddock.
>> ? ? ?A? A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
>> ? ? ?campaigning the
>> ? ? ?A? A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to
>> see it
>> ? ? ?in
>> ? ? ?A? A action.
>> ? ? ?A? A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and
>> KC
>> ? ? ?for
>> ? ? ?A? A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for
>> their
>> ? ? ?A? A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47
>> years)
>> ? ? ?Pantera
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> Great Showing Steve, both you and Tony. :)
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
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> On 7/18/2021 17:56, Steve Lisa wrote:
>
> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera. (Jim, the fast Jag
> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class. He finished 10th
> out of 27 overall.
> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
> tire wear, but likely dead shocks. It needs new shocks all the way
> around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
> DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
> detailed update later in the week.
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> That is awesome Steve. It's a wonderful new chapter in the life
> of
> 5533. If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
> article
> for the POCA Profiles. It's original purchase was written up way
> back
> in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it. Then
> later I
> think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC
> one
> year, I can't recall. Seeing a new article around your
> experience with
> the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the track
> would
> be a thrill to read.
> Keep up the great work. You've got a nice care there. :)
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
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> On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
> Jim,A
> You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a very
> real
> member of the Patent It! Race Team.A You are so knowledgeable
> about he
> Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
> telling
> all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
> A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
> Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels
> (pro,
> desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
> incredible
> event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A After
> every
> session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
> car.
> And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
> loved the
> originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A I am glad we
> waited
> until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest vintage
> race
> of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
> Tomorrow are our two main races.A I will share all pictures and
> results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
> writeup
> when we get home.
> We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
> Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and said
> hello
> and for the technical advice and support received by this club
> over the
> last few years.A We would not be racing without POCA.
> Steve.
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
> [3]<[1][6]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
> A A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the
> wheel.
> Steve was
> A A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
> A A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public
> including
> many
> A A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
> effort)
> A A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful conversations
> with
> everyone
> A A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
> reactions
> were
> A A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
> stories
> overheard
> A A by yours truly.
> A A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I will
> not
> A A experience the feature race.
> A A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
> weekend
> A A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty
> sure he
> has
> A A some pictures and videos.
> A A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
> flawlessly. Very
> A A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken
> by
> Steve,
> A A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation
> of
> the badge.
> A A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
> paddock.
> A A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
> campaigning the
> A A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to see
> it
> in
> A A action.
> A A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and
> KC
> for
> A A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for
> their
> A A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47
> years)
> Pantera
> A A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the track.
> A A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:28:08 -0700
> From: <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>, "Detomaso Email List"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:50:48 -0500
> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
> Message-ID: <046d3ae3-26e4-97dc-b84d-9f2760cdddda at galstar.com>
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> Bless his little pointed head.
>
> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>
> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
> they stopped making these in 1972",? The serial number is for a car that
> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>
> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at
> that car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will
> need to be replaced.? The is an unlimited number of hours in a
> restoration.? 10? to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new
> interior, cleaning every part that is off the car and buying new bolts
> for everything.
>
> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with
> a 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for
> target practice.
>
> YMMV,
>
> jerry knotts
>
> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:56:15 +1000
> From: Terry Appleby <taappleby at bigpond.com>
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> So sad, THPNMY04538 ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 19 Jul 2021, at 2:50 pm, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bless his little pointed head.
>>
>> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
>> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>>
>> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
>> they stopped making these in 1972", The serial number is for a car that
>> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>>
>> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at that
>> car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
>> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will need
>> to be replaced. The is an unlimited number of hours in a restoration. 10
>> to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new interior, cleaning
>> every part that is off the car and buying new bolts for everything.
>>
>> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with a
>> 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for target
>> practice.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> jerry knotts
>>
>>> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:26:46 -0700
> From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
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> Um, well, interesting would be one description for it. In need of rescue
> would be another.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:41:14 -0400
> From: MARK CHARLTON <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> Jerry,
>
> I love your comments. And agree of course.
>
> A couple weeks ago I inspected 6 DeTomasos for sale. ALL were ridiculously
> over-priced, and NONE had run in 20+ years.
>
> One car was a Series 2 Deaville that was so comprehensively rusted out (and
> I mean everywhere) it could not possibly be repaired for much less than
> $100K. The asking price was well over $20K. I tried to explain to the seller
> that almost every Deauville I have ever seen is for sale, and while asking
> prices seem respectably ?high? so as to convey ?worth?, NONE are selling.
> Because there are virtually zero reference sales, few people really know
> what a good one is ACTUALLY worth. He wasn?t happy when I said that even as
> a parts car is didn?t have much value because how many people are in need of
> one.
>
> Crazy world.
>
> Mark Charlton
> pantera01826 at rogers.com
>
>
>
>> On Jul 19, 2021, at 12:50 AM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bless his little pointed head.
>>
>> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
>> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>>
>> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
>> they stopped making these in 1972", The serial number is for a car that
>> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>>
>> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at that
>> car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
>> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will need
>> to be replaced. The is an unlimited number of hours in a restoration. 10
>> to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new interior, cleaning
>> every part that is off the car and buying new bolts for everything.
>>
>> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with a
>> 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for target
>> practice.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> jerry knotts
>>
>> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>
>>>
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