[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 205, Issue 20

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>    1. Re: Steve Lisa - Road America (Steve Lisa)
>    2. Re: Steve Lisa - Road America (Asa Jay Laughton)
>    3. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (gt40 at sbcglobal.net)
>    4. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Jerry Knotts)
>    5. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Terry Appleby)
>    6. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (Mike & Elizabeth)
>    7. Re: "Interesting" P on eBay (MARK CHARLTON)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:56:04 -0500
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steve Lisa - Road America
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> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera.  (Jim, the fast Jag
> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.  He finished 10th out
> of 27 overall.
>
> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great tire
> wear, but likely dead shocks.  It needs new shocks all the way around. We
> be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>
> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the DP02
> Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
>
> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
> detailed update later in the week.
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>>    That is awesome Steve.  It's a wonderful new chapter in the life of
>>    5533.  If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great article
>>    for the POCA Profiles.  It's original purchase was written up way back
>>    in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it.  Then later I
>>    think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC one
>>    year, I can't recall.  Seeing a new article around your experience
>> with
>>    the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the track
>> would
>>    be a thrill to read.
>>    Keep up the great work.  You've got a nice care there. :)
>>    Asa  Jay
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>> ******************************
>> [1]https://w7tsc.org
>> [2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>>    On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>>
>>    Jim,A
>>    You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a very real
>>    member of the Patent It! Race Team.A  You are so knowledgeable about
>> he
>>    Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us telling
>>    all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>>    A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>>    Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels (pro,
>>    desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>> incredible
>>    event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A  After every
>>    session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the car.
>>    And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they loved
>> the
>>    originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A  I am glad we waited
>>    until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest vintage race
>>    of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>>    Tomorrow are our two main races.A  I will share all pictures and
>>    results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed writeup
>>    when we get home.
>>    We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>>    Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and said hello
>>    and for the technical advice and support received by this club over
>> the
>>    last few years.A  We would not be racing without POCA.
>>    Steve.
>>
>>    On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>>    [3]<[1]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
>>
>>      A  A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the wheel.
>>      Steve was
>>      A  A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>>      A  A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public including
>>      many
>>      A  A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
>>      effort)
>>      A  A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful conversations with
>>      everyone
>>      A  A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the reactions
>>      were
>>      A  A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting stories
>>      overheard
>>      A  A by yours truly.
>>      A  A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I will not
>>      A  A experience the feature race.
>>      A  A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the weekend
>>      A  A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty sure he
>>      has
>>      A  A some pictures and videos.
>>      A  A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>>      flawlessly. Very
>>      A  A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken by
>>      Steve,
>>      A  A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation of
>>      the badge.
>>      A  A The car looked great on the track as well as in the paddock.
>>      A  A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
>>      campaigning the
>>      A  A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to see it
>>      in
>>      A  A action.
>>      A  A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and KC
>>      for
>>      A  A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for their
>>      A  A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47 years)
>>      Pantera
>>      A  A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the track.
>>      A  A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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>    Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera.A  (Jim, the fast Jag
>    broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.A  He finished 10th
>    out of 27 overall.A A
>    The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
>    tire wear, but likely dead shocks.A  It needs new shocks all the way
>    around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>    I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
>    DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.A A
>    The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
>    detailed update later in the week.
>
>    On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>    <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>      A  A That is awesome Steve.A  It's a wonderful new chapter in the
>      life of
>      A  A 5533.A  If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
>      article
>      A  A for the POCA Profiles.A  It's original purchase was written up
>      way back
>      A  A in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it.A  Then
>      later I
>      A  A think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC
>      one
>      A  A year, I can't recall.A  Seeing a new article around your
>      experience with
>      A  A the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the
>      track would
>      A  A be a thrill to read.
>      A  A Keep up the great work.A  You've got a nice care there. :)
>      A  A AsaA  Jay
>      Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>      Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>      ******************************
>      [1][2]https://w7tsc.org
>      [2][3]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>      A  A On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>      A  A Jim,A
>      A  A You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a
>      very real
>      A  A member of the Patent It! Race Team.AA  You are so knowledgeable
>      about he
>      A  A Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
>      telling
>      A  A all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>      A  A A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>      A  A Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels
>      (pro,
>      A  A desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>      incredible
>      A  A event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.AA  After
>      every
>      A  A session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
>      car.
>      A  A And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
>      loved the
>      A  A originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).AA  I am glad we
>      waited
>      A  A until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest
>      vintage race
>      A  A of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>      A  A Tomorrow are our two main races.AA  I will share all pictures
>      and
>      A  A results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
>      writeup
>      A  A when we get home.
>      A  A We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>      A  A Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and
>      said hello
>      A  A and for the technical advice and support received by this club
>      over the
>      A  A last few years.AA  We would not be racing without POCA.
>      A  A Steve.
>      A  A On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>      A  A [3]<[1][4]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
>      A  A  A AA  A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the
>      wheel.
>      A  A  A Steve was
>      A  A  A AA  A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>      A  A  A AA  A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public
>      including
>      A  A  A many
>      A  A  A AA  A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and
>      his
>      A  A  A effort)
>      A  A  A AA  A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful
>      conversations with
>      A  A  A everyone
>      A  A  A AA  A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
>      reactions
>      A  A  A were
>      A  A  A AA  A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
>      stories
>      A  A  A overheard
>      A  A  A AA  A by yours truly.
>      A  A  A AA  A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I
>      will not
>      A  A  A AA  A experience the feature race.
>      A  A  A AA  A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
>      weekend
>      A  A  A AA  A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am
>      pretty sure he
>      A  A  A has
>      A  A  A AA  A some pictures and videos.
>      A  A  A AA  A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>      A  A  A flawlessly. Very
>      A  A  A AA  A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care
>      taken by
>      A  A  A Steve,
>      A  A  A AA  A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper
>      representation of
>      A  A  A the badge.
>      A  A  A AA  A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
>      paddock.
>      A  A  A AA  A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he
>      is
>      A  A  A campaigning the
>      A  A  A AA  A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to
>      see it
>      A  A  A in
>      A  A  A AA  A action.
>      A  A  A AA  A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony,
>      and KC
>      A  A  A for
>      A  A  A AA  A allowing me to share in the experience this week and
>      for their
>      A  A  A AA  A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time
>      (47 years)
>      A  A  A Pantera
>      A  A  A AA  A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the
>      track.
>      A  A  A AA  A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:04:09 -0700
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steve Lisa - Road America
> Message-ID: <18d5ecaf-d934-2ba1-ce9f-f8e6ac214ea9 at asajay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Great Showing Steve, both you and Tony. :)
>
> Asa? Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
> ******************************
> https://w7tsc.org
> https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> On 7/18/2021 17:56, Steve Lisa wrote:
>> Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera. (Jim, the fast Jag
>> broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.? He finished 10th
>> out of 27 overall.
>>
>> The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
>> tire wear, but likely dead shocks.? It needs new shocks all the way
>> around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>>
>> I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
>> DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
>>
>> The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
>> detailed update later in the week.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     ? ?That is awesome Steve.? It's a wonderful new chapter in the life
>> of
>>     ? ?5533.? If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
>>     article
>>     ? ?for the POCA Profiles.? It's original purchase was written up
>>     way back
>>     ? ?in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it. Then
>>     later I
>>     ? ?think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC one
>>     ? ?year, I can't recall.? Seeing a new article around your
>>     experience with
>>     ? ?the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the
>>     track would
>>     ? ?be a thrill to read.
>>     ? ?Keep up the great work.? You've got a nice care there. :)
>>     ? ?Asa? Jay
>>     Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>     Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>>     ******************************
>>     [1]https://w7tsc.org <https://w7tsc.org>
>>     [2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>     <https://www.teampanteraracing.com>
>>
>>     ? ?On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>>
>>     ? ?Jim,A
>>     ? ?You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a
>>     very real
>>     ? ?member of the Patent It! Race Team.A? You are so knowledgeable
>>     about he
>>     ? ?Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
>>     telling
>>     ? ?all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>>     ? ?A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>>     ? ?Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels (pro,
>>     ? ?desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>>     incredible
>>     ? ?event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A After
>> every
>>     ? ?session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
>> car.
>>     ? ?And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
>>     loved the
>>     ? ?originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A? I am glad we waited
>>     ? ?until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest
>>     vintage race
>>     ? ?of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>>     ? ?Tomorrow are our two main races.A? I will share all pictures and
>>     ? ?results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
>> writeup
>>     ? ?when we get home.
>>     ? ?We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>>     ? ?Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and
>>     said hello
>>     ? ?and for the technical advice and support received by this club
>>     over the
>>     ? ?last few years.A? We would not be racing without POCA.
>>     ? ?Steve.
>>
>>     ? ?On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>>     ? ?[3]<[1]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
>>     <mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     ? ? ?A? A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the wheel.
>>     ? ? ?Steve was
>>     ? ? ?A? A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>>     ? ? ?A? A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public including
>>     ? ? ?many
>>     ? ? ?A? A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
>>     ? ? ?effort)
>>     ? ? ?A? A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful
>>     conversations with
>>     ? ? ?everyone
>>     ? ? ?A? A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
>>     reactions
>>     ? ? ?were
>>     ? ? ?A? A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
>> stories
>>     ? ? ?overheard
>>     ? ? ?A? A by yours truly.
>>     ? ? ?A? A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I
>>     will not
>>     ? ? ?A? A experience the feature race.
>>     ? ? ?A? A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
>>     weekend
>>     ? ? ?A? A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty
>>     sure he
>>     ? ? ?has
>>     ? ? ?A? A some pictures and videos.
>>     ? ? ?A? A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>>     ? ? ?flawlessly. Very
>>     ? ? ?A? A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken by
>>     ? ? ?Steve,
>>     ? ? ?A? A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation
>> of
>>     ? ? ?the badge.
>>     ? ? ?A? A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
>> paddock.
>>     ? ? ?A? A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
>>     ? ? ?campaigning the
>>     ? ? ?A? A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to
>>     see it
>>     ? ? ?in
>>     ? ? ?A? A action.
>>     ? ? ?A? A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and
>> KC
>>     ? ? ?for
>>     ? ? ?A? A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for
>>     their
>>     ? ? ?A? A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47
>>     years)
>>     ? ? ?Pantera
>>     ? ? ?A? A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the track.
>>     ? ? ?A? A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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>    Great Showing Steve, both you and Tony. :)
>    Asa  Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
> ******************************
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>    On 7/18/2021 17:56, Steve Lisa wrote:
>
>    Quick update....Tony won in class in the Pantera.  (Jim, the fast Jag
>    broke.) Tony was way ahead of third place in class.  He finished 10th
>    out of 27 overall.
>    The Pantera was flawless... Not a drop of oil, no overheating, great
>    tire wear, but likely dead shocks.  It needs new shocks all the way
>    around. We be also want to swap in the Quaiffe for the ZF.
>    I finished second in class, 7th out of 30- something overall in the
>    DP02 Prototype, way ahead of third but way behind first.
>    The guys/Pantera are on their way home as am I, and we will get a more
>    detailed update later in the week.
>
>    On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 11:39 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>    <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>         That is awesome Steve.  It's a wonderful new chapter in the life
>      of
>         5533.  If anyone has a hankerin' they could write up a great
>      article
>         for the POCA Profiles.  It's original purchase was written up way
>      back
>         in I think 2000 or 2001 when Shelley and I purchased it.  Then
>      later I
>         think we wrote another article for Profiles, maybe around SSCC
>      one
>         year, I can't recall.  Seeing a new article around your
>      experience with
>         the car, all you've done with it, and campaigning it on the track
>      would
>         be a thrill to read.
>         Keep up the great work.  You've got a nice care there. :)
>         Asa  Jay
>      Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>      Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>      ******************************
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>         On 7/17/2021 17:30, Steve Lisa wrote:
>         Jim,A
>         You have supported us at so many races now, and are truly a very
>      real
>         member of the Patent It! Race Team.A  You are so knowledgeable
>      about he
>         Pantera brand and details that you have got to be tired of us
>      telling
>         all the visitors to "Talk to Jim about that."
>         A We have bad internet access, so I can't post much now.A A
>         Briefly, of all of our racecars over the years at all levels
>      (pro,
>         desert, vintage) the reception received by a Pantera at this
>      incredible
>         event, racing at 110 percent door to door, was unreal.A  After
>      every
>         session, literally hundreds of people came by to ask about the
>      car.
>         And, as a group 3 car, with only careful/necessary mods, they
>      loved the
>         originality of the car (thank you, Asa Jay).A  I am glad we
>      waited
>         until it was done to make this appearance at the biggest vintage
>      race
>         of the year. We still have to make it through tomorrow.
>         Tomorrow are our two main races.A  I will share all pictures and
>         results in a Google DriveA folder with a much more detailed
>      writeup
>         when we get home.
>         We also have HD 360 in car video we will try to upload.
>         Finally, thanks to all the POCA members that stopped by and said
>      hello
>         and for the technical advice and support received by this club
>      over the
>         last few years.A  We would not be racing without POCA.
>         Steve.
>         On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 7:00 PM Jim Kosloskey
>         [3]<[1][6]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
>           A  A Today Steve's Pantera qualified with Son Tony at the
>      wheel.
>           Steve was
>           A  A driving a prototype car and qualified that.
>           A  A Just like all the other days, a lot of the public
>      including
>           many
>           A  A Pantera Owners (thanks owners for supporting Steve and his
>           effort)
>           A  A stopped by the paddock. Steve had wonderful conversations
>      with
>           everyone
>           A  A (he just loves interacting with people). All of the
>      reactions
>           were
>           A  A really positive and supportive. A lot of interesting
>      stories
>           overheard
>           A  A by yours truly.
>           A  A I have to head back home tomorrow so unfortunately I will
>      not
>           A  A experience the feature race.
>           A  A Steve will be providing the particulars related to the
>      weekend
>           A  A including the final outcome of the weekend. I am pretty
>      sure he
>           has
>           A  A some pictures and videos.
>           A  A From my perspective, the car seemed to perform almost
>           flawlessly. Very
>           A  A minor adjustments. That is a testament to the care taken
>      by
>           Steve,
>           A  A Tony, and KC to make sure this is a proper representation
>      of
>           the badge.
>           A  A The car looked great on the track as well as in the
>      paddock.
>           A  A I am sure Steve will provide information whenever he is
>           campaigning the
>           A  A Pantera and I hope some of you have the opportunity to see
>      it
>           in
>           A  A action.
>           A  A I want to take this opportunity to thank Steve, Tony, and
>      KC
>           for
>           A  A allowing me to share in the experience this week and for
>      their
>           A  A hospitality. It was a great time and as a long time (47
>      years)
>           Pantera
>           A  A owner, it was a real joy to see this at and on the track.
>           A  A Jim Kosloskey #6949 Yellow '74 L
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:28:08 -0700
> From: <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>, "Detomaso Email List"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:50:48 -0500
> From: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
> Message-ID: <046d3ae3-26e4-97dc-b84d-9f2760cdddda at galstar.com>
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> Bless his little pointed head.
>
> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>
> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
> they stopped making these in 1972",? The serial number is for a car that
> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>
> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at
> that car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will
> need to be replaced.? The is an unlimited number of hours in a
> restoration.? 10? to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new
> interior, cleaning every part that is off the car and buying new bolts
> for everything.
>
> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with
> a 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for
> target practice.
>
> YMMV,
>
> jerry knotts
>
> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
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> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:56:15 +1000
> From: Terry Appleby <taappleby at bigpond.com>
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> So sad, THPNMY04538 ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 19 Jul 2021, at 2:50 pm, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bless his little pointed head.
>>
>> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
>> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>>
>> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
>> they stopped making these in 1972",  The serial number is for a car that
>> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>>
>> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at that
>> car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
>> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will need
>> to be replaced.  The is an unlimited number of hours in a restoration.  10
>>  to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new interior, cleaning
>> every part that is off the car and buying new bolts for everything.
>>
>> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with a
>> 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for target
>> practice.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> jerry knotts
>>
>>> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:26:46 -0700
> From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
> To: <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>, "'Detomaso Email List'"
> 	<detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> Um, well, interesting would be one description for it.  In need of rescue
> would be another.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gt40 at sbcglobal.net <gt40 at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:28 PM
> To: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>; Detomaso Email List
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:41:14 -0400
> From: MARK CHARLTON <pantera01826 at rogers.com>
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] "Interesting" P on eBay
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> Jerry,
>
> I love your comments. And agree of course.
>
> A couple weeks ago I inspected 6 DeTomasos for sale. ALL were ridiculously
> over-priced, and NONE had run in 20+ years.
>
> One car was a Series 2 Deaville that was so comprehensively rusted out (and
> I mean everywhere) it could not possibly be repaired for much less than
> $100K. The asking price was well over $20K. I tried to explain to the seller
> that almost every Deauville I have ever seen is for sale, and while asking
> prices seem respectably ?high? so as to convey ?worth?, NONE are selling.
> Because there are virtually zero reference sales, few people really know
> what a good one is ACTUALLY worth. He wasn?t happy when I said that even as
> a parts car is didn?t have much value because how many people are in need of
> one.
>
> Crazy world.
>
> Mark Charlton
> pantera01826 at rogers.com
>
>
>
>> On Jul 19, 2021, at 12:50 AM, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bless his little pointed head.
>>
>> The first rule of street rodding is "If you are going to individualize
>> your car radically and don't finish, you now have a car no one likes."
>>
>> Of course there is the " rough but restorable", " it might buff out", "
>> they stopped making these in 1972",  The serial number is for a car that
>> there are only 6,000 of that year with the same paint". etc.
>>
>> In my limited scope of virtual reality, I don't think I could look at that
>> car for even the reserve price considering the out gassing of the
>> fiberglass and rust potential of the body, every piece of rubber will need
>> to be replaced.  The is an unlimited number of hours in a restoration.  10
>>  to 30k in bodywork and 10k in paint, new tires, new interior, cleaning
>> every part that is off the car and buying new bolts for everything.
>>
>> Been there, done that, got the "T" shirt, wore it out, 50 years ago with a
>> 1934 Ford sedan delivery that was setting in a field and used for target
>> practice.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> jerry knotts
>>
>> On 7/18/2021 11:28 PM, gt40 at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230762892?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m43.l1123&mkcid=8&bu=42989268558&osub=ab8d322af2e6a5b3dfe3850e065d861b%257ETE80101_T_AGM&segname=TE80101_T_AGM&crd=20210718080500&ch=osgood&trkId=0ACF24E4-03711C85C58-017AA752C627-0000000000AC4198&mesgId=3024&plmtId=700001&recoId=265230762892&recoPos=1&sojTags=osub%3Dosub%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Cch%3Dch%2CtrkId%3DtrkId%2CmesgId%3DmesgId%2CplmtId%3DplmtId%2CrecoId%3DrecoId%2CrecoPos%3DrecoPos%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>
>>>
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