[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 199, Issue 26
Lance Nist
panteraefi at gmail.com
Fri Jan 29 13:15:06 EST 2021
Hi ALL, I would suggest a STEEL oil pan, sure I make cast aluminum pans
though they are 1/2" thick.
The aluminum "sheet metal" pan will soften and could crack after time due
to the heat/cooling cycles of normal engine operation.
Then there is the internal "windage" inside the crankcase that will cause
the pan to flex.
Lance, Pantera EFI.com
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> 1. Armandos Oil Pans (Rob DuMoulin)
> 2. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Forest Goodhart)
> 3. Armandos Oil Pans (Garth Rodericks)
> 4. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Julian Kift)
> 5. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 6. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Mike Drew)
> 7. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Julian Kift)
> 8. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Dick Koch)
> 9. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Dave Londry)
> 10. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (thells)
> 11. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Will Kooiman)
> 12. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Scott Mead Photography)
> 13. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Mike Drew)
> 14. Re: Armandos Oil Pans (Will Kooiman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:41:13 -0500
> From: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI build.
> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the Pantera,
> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it is
> for a Pantera.
>
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>
> http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>
>
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> -------------- next part --------------
> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> build.A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
> forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website
> (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [2]rob at dumoulins.net
> [3]www.kbsi.co
> [4]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 2. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> 3. http://www.kbsi.co/
> 4. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Rob DuMoulin
> <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> Message-ID: <807644820.250190.1611859586689 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I'm just guessing but the 400 looks like the sump is too wide to fit
> between the frame rails.Forest
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021, 10:40:20 AM PST, Rob DuMoulin <
> rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
> ? I am aboutA? to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> ? build.A? A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
> ? forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website
> ? (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
> ? Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> ? [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> ? Rob DuMoulin
> ? 904.476.8744
> ? [2]rob at dumoulins.net
> ? [3]www.kbsi.co
> ? [4]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> References
>
> ? 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> ? 2. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> ? 3. http://www.kbsi.co/
> ? 4. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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> I'm just guessing but the 400 looks like the sump is too wide to fit
> between the frame rails.
> Forest
>
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021, 10:40:20 AM PST, Rob DuMoulin
> <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> build.A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
> forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website
> (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> [1][1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [2][2]rob at dumoulins.net
> [3]www.kbsi.co
> [4][3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> References
> 1. [4]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 2. mailto:[5]rob at dumoulins.net
> 3. [6]http://www.kbsi.co/
> 4. [7]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:48:09 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Rob
> Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> You want #404.? This is the one I have in my Pantera
> http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
>
>
> #400 is a front sump pan for a Mustang.
>
> http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
>
>
>
>
>
> --- original message ---I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my
> aluminum block 400CI build.
> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the Pantera,
> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it is
> for a Pantera.
>
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>
> http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>
> Rob DuMoulin
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> You want #404. This is the one I have in my Pantera
> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
> #400 is a front sump pan for a Mustang.
> [2]http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
> --- original message ---
> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI build.
> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the Pantera,
> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it is
> for a Pantera.
>
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>
> [3]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>
> Rob DuMoulin
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
> 2. http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
> 3. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:08:26 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>, P - Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt pattern?
> For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump Mustang pan
> for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will make the #404 in
> a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be listed on the website.
>
> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes a
> temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water temp.
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI build.
> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the Pantera,
> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it is
> for a Pantera.
>
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>
> http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>
>
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co<http://www.kbsi.co>
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> -------------- next part --------------
> Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> listed on the website.
>
> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> temp.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> build.
> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> Pantera,
> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it
> is
> for a Pantera.
> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> [2]www.kbsi.co
> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:19:56 +0100
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> Message-ID: <C0382EEB-D60B-486C-9117-57AE09C7755E at hax.se>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That must
> surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan and
> they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
>
> > 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >
> > ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> > pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> > Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> > make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> > listed on the website.
> >
> > I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> > a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> > temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> > temp.
> >
> > Julian
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> > Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> > To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >
> > I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> > build.
> > I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> > Pantera,
> > but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it
> > is
> > for a Pantera.
> > Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> > [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> > Rob DuMoulin
> > 904.476.8744
> > rob at dumoulins.net
> > [2]www.kbsi.co
> > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:51:44 -0800
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they build
> a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the same
> way.
>
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >
> >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> >> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> >> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> >> listed on the website.
> >>
> >> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> >> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> >> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> >> temp.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>
> >> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >> build.
> >> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >> Pantera,
> >> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it
> >> is
> >> for a Pantera.
> >> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> Rob DuMoulin
> >> 904.476.8744
> >> rob at dumoulins.net
> >> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:09:09 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
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> In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as well,
> with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes separately
> whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a pan
> purchase.
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
>
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they build
> a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the same
> way.
>
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >
> >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> >> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> >> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> >> listed on the website.
> >>
> >> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> >> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> >> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> >> temp.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>
> >> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >> build.
> >> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >> Pantera,
> >> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it
> >> is
> >> for a Pantera.
> >> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> Rob DuMoulin
> >> 904.476.8744
> >> rob at dumoulins.net
> >> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
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> In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as well,
> with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes separately
> whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a pan
> purchase.
>
> [1]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
>
> [2]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f60
> 2-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
> build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it
> the same way.
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >
> > I'm surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the
> pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build
> them?
> >
> >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
> sump
> >> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they
> will
> >> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not
> be
> >> listed on the website.
> >>
> >> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
> includes
> >> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an
> oil
> >> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than
> water
> >> temp.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
> >> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>
> >> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >> build.
> >> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >> Pantera,
> >> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
> states it
> >> is
> >> for a Pantera.
> >> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> Rob DuMoulin
> >> 904.476.8744
> >> rob at dumoulins.net
> >> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. [3]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> 2. [4]http://www.kbsi.co/
> >> 3. [5]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >>
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> 1. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
> 2.
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
> 3. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 4. http://www.kbsi.co/
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:47:54 -0500
> From: Dick Koch <redcatman74 at gmail.com>
> To: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: P - Mail List <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> Message-ID:
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>
> Rob, it is the 404 pan you want. See attached pictures of my pan, along
> with the oil pickup.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 1:40 PM Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
> > I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> > build.A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
> > forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website
> > (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
> > Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> > [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> > Rob DuMoulin
> > 904.476.8744
> > [2]rob at dumoulins.net
> > [3]www.kbsi.co
> > [4]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> > 2. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> > 3. http://www.kbsi.co/
> > 4. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> > _______________________________________________
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> Rob, it is the 404 pan you want. See attached pictures of my pan,A
> along with the oil pickup.
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 1:40 PM Rob DuMoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
>
> A A I am aboutAA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
> 400CI
> A A build.AA A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I
> want
> A A forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their
> website
> A A (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
> A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> A A [1][2]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> A A Rob DuMoulin
> A A 904.476.8744
> A A [2][3]rob at dumoulins.net
> A A [3][4]www.kbsi.co
> A A [4][5]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> References
> A A 1. [6]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> A A 2. mailto:[7]rob at dumoulins.net
> A A 3. [8]http://www.kbsi.co/
> A A 4. [9]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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> 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> 2. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 3. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> 4. http://www.kbsi.co/
> 5. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 6. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> 7. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:17:30 -0800
> From: Dave Londry <davel at trguys.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, P - Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> Message-ID: <8357065D-E148-4E5A-BA43-964F18477962 at trguys.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I have a Cleveland Kevco pan from 9 years ago. The pickup was a separate
> part number. It?s a built-from-scratch piece and I believe it originated as
> a circle-track part.
> Dave
>
> Dave Londry.
> TRGuys.com
> davel at trguys.com
> 604 621 2278 (iPhone)
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ? In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as
> well,
> > with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes separately
> > whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a pan
> > purchase.
> >
> > [1]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
> >
> > [2]
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f60
> > 2-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
> >
> > Julian
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> > To: Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>
> > Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List
> > <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >
> > Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
> > build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it
> > the same way.
> > (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> > essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
> > Mike
> > Sent from my iPad
> >> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> > must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the
> > pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build
> > them?
> >>
> >>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
> > sump
> >>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they
> > will
> >>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not
> > be
> >>> listed on the website.
> >>>
> >>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
> > includes
> >>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an
> > oil
> >>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than
> > water
> >>> temp.
> >>>
> >>> Julian
> >>>
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> > of
> >>> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >>> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>>
> >>> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >>> build.
> >>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >>> Pantera,
> >>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
> > states it
> >>> is
> >>> for a Pantera.
> >>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >>> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>> Rob DuMoulin
> >>> 904.476.8744
> >>> rob at dumoulins.net
> >>> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >>> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>
> >>> References
> >>>
> >>> 1. [3]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>> 2. [4]http://www.kbsi.co/
> >>> 3. [5]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> > 1. https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
> > 2.
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
> > 3. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> > 4. http://www.kbsi.co/
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:53:58 -0800
> From: "thells" <thells at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'Mike Drew'"
> <mikeldrew at aol.com>, 'Thomas T?rnblom' <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: 'P - Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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>
> My new Dart/CHI Clevor motor has a Kevko Windsor pan for a Pantera, it
> looked well made.
>
> Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:09 PM
> To: Mike Drew; Thomas T?rnblom
> Cc: P - Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as well,
> with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes separately
> whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a pan
> purchase.
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
>
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they build
> a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the same
> way.
>
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >
> >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
> >> sump Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
> >> they will make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it
> >> may not be listed on the website.
> >>
> >> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
> >> includes a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to
> >> run an oil temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp
> >> more than water temp.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> >> of Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>
> >> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >> build.
> >> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >> Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below)
> >> that states it is for a Pantera.
> >> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> Rob DuMoulin
> >> 904.476.8744
> >> rob at dumoulins.net
> >> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >> References
> >>
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:04:10 -0500
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: thells <thells at earthlink.net>, 'Julian Kift'
> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Mike Drew' <mikeldrew at aol.com>,
> 'Thomas
> T?rnblom' <thomas at hax.se>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> Message-ID: <D47F205B-DAF4-49A5-8010-C5430179BC0E at gmail.com>
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> I had Armando build a pan for me last year, or maybe it was the year
> before. I have a Dart block that takes a 351W pan.
>
> The PN wasn't on their website. I called and told Armando what I wanted -
> "351W in a Pantera". That's all it took.
>
> ?On 1/28/21, 6:52 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of thells" <
> detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of thells at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> My new Dart/CHI Clevor motor has a Kevko Windsor pan for a Pantera, it
> looked well made.
>
> Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:09 PM
> To: Mike Drew; Thomas T?rnblom
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as well,
> with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes separately
> whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a pan
> purchase.
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
>
>
> https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/part-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
> Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
> build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the
> same way.
>
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >
> >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>
> >> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan
> bolt
> >> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
> >> sump Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
> >> they will make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although
> it
> >> may not be listed on the website.
> >>
> >> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
> >> includes a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want
> to
> >> run an oil temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp
> >> more than water temp.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf
> >> of Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>
> >> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
> 400CI
> >> build.
> >> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >> Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below)
> >> that states it is for a Pantera.
> >> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> Rob DuMoulin
> >> 904.476.8744
> >> rob at dumoulins.net
> >> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:25:29 -0800
> From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
> build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the
> same way.
> >
> > (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >>
> >>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> >>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> >>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> >>> listed on the website.
> >>>
> >>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> >>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> >>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> >>> temp.
> >>>
> >>> Julian
> >>> __________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >>> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >>> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>>
> >>> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >>> build.
> >>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >>> Pantera,
> >>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states it
> >>> is
> >>> for a Pantera.
> >>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >>> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>> Rob DuMoulin
> >>> 904.476.8744
> >>> rob at dumoulins.net
> >>> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >>> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>
> >>> References
> >>>
> >>> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >>> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:34:45 -0800
> From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
> Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> Scott,
>
> I can?t tell them apart. They are nominally identical. Armando used to
> make them when he worked at Aviaid and uses exactly the same process now
> that he is on his own. So I think it?s fair to say they are identical.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 18:25, Scott Mead Photography <
> scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
> build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does it the
> same way.
> >>
> >> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
> must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the pan
> and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >>>
> >>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
> >>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front sump
> >>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they will
> >>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not be
> >>>> listed on the website.
> >>>>
> >>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only includes
> >>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an oil
> >>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than water
> >>>> temp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Julian
> >>>> __________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
> >>>> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >>>> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>>>
> >>>> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
> >>>> build.
> >>>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >>>> Pantera,
> >>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states
> it
> >>>> is
> >>>> for a Pantera.
> >>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >>>> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>>> Rob DuMoulin
> >>>> 904.476.8744
> >>>> rob at dumoulins.net
> >>>> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >>>> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>>
> >>>> References
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>>> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >>>> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:41:51 -0500
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Scott Mead Photography
> <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
> Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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> I agree with Mike. I have an Armando on my Pantera. I have an Aviaid on
> my Cobra. The quality is the same.
>
> ?On 1/28/21, 9:34 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <
> detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> I can?t tell them apart. They are nominally identical. Armando used to
> make them when he worked at Aviaid and uses exactly the same process now
> that he is on his own. So I think it?s fair to say they are identical.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 18:25, Scott Mead Photography <
> scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
> they build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does
> it the same way.
> >>
> >> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
> essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
> That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of the
> pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they build them?
> >>>
> >>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift <
> julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> ? Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan
> bolt
> >>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
> sump
> >>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they
> will
> >>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may not
> be
> >>>> listed on the website.
> >>>>
> >>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
> includes
> >>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run an
> oil
> >>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than
> water
> >>>> temp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Julian
> >>>>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf of
> >>>> Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
> >>>> To: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
> >>>>
> >>>> I am about to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
> 400CI
> >>>> build.
> >>>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
> >>>> Pantera,
> >>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
> states it
> >>>> is
> >>>> for a Pantera.
> >>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
> >>>> [1]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>>> Rob DuMoulin
> >>>> 904.476.8744
> >>>> rob at dumoulins.net
> >>>> [2]www.kbsi.co
> >>>> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> >>>>
> >>>> References
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
> >>>> 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
> >>>> 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Hi ALL, I would suggest a STEEL oil pan, sure I make cast aluminum pans
though they are 1/2" thick.
The aluminum "sheet metal" pan will soften and could crack after time
due to the heat/cooling cycles of normal engine operation.
Then there is the internal "windage" inside the crankcase that will
cause the pan to flex.
Lance, Pantera EFI.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:41:13 -0500
From: Rob DuMoulin <[6]rob at dumoulins.net>
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I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
build.
A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
Pantera,
but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states
it is
for a Pantera.
Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
[9]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[10]rob at dumoulins.net
[11]www.kbsi.co
[12]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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A A I am aboutAA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
A A build.AA A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I
want
A A forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their
website
A A (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
A A [1][13]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A Rob DuMoulin
A A 904.476.8744
A A [2][14]rob at dumoulins.net
A A [3][15]www.kbsi.co
A A [4][16]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
References
A A 1. [17]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A 2. mailto:[18]rob at dumoulins.net
A A 3. [19]http://www.kbsi.co/
A A 4. [20]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Forest Goodhart <[21]forestg at att.net>
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A I'm just guessing but the 400 looks like the sump is too wide to
fit between the frame rails.Forest
A A On Thursday, January 28, 2021, 10:40:20 AM PST, Rob DuMoulin
<[25]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:A
A ? I am aboutA? to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
? build.A? A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
? forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their website
? (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
? Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
? [1][26]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
? Rob DuMoulin
? 904.476.8744
? [2][27]rob at dumoulins.net
? [3][28]www.kbsi.co
? [4][29]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
References
? 1. [30]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
? 2. mailto:[31]rob at dumoulins.net
? 3. [32]http://www.kbsi.co/
? 4. [33]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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A A I'm just guessing but the 400 looks like the sump is too wide
to fit
A A between the frame rails.
A A Forest
A A On Thursday, January 28, 2021, 10:40:20 AM PST, Rob DuMoulin
A A <[36]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
A A A I am aboutAA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum
block 400CI
A A A build.AA A I have been told that the model 400 was the one
I want
A A A forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their
website
A A A (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
A A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
A A A [1][1][37]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A A Rob DuMoulin
A A A 904.476.8744
A A A [2][2][38]rob at dumoulins.net
A A A [3][39]www.kbsi.co
A A A [4][3][40]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
A A References
A A A 1. [4][41]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A A 2. mailto:[5][42]rob at dumoulins.net
A A A 3. [6][43]http://www.kbsi.co/
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:48:09 +0000 (UTC)
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You want #404.? This is the one I have in my Pantera
[60]http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
#400 is a front sump pan for a Mustang.
[61]http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
--- original message ---I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for
my aluminum block 400CI build.
A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
Pantera,
but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states
it is
for a Pantera.
Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
[62]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
Rob DuMoulin
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A A You want #404.A This is the one I have in my Pantera
A A [1][63]http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
A A #400 is a front sump pan for a Mustang.
A A [2][64]http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
A A --- original message ---
I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
build.
A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
Pantera,
but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states
it is
for a Pantera.
Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
[3][65]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
Rob DuMoulin
References
A A 1. [66]http://www.aroilpans.com/401.html
A A 2. [67]http://www.aroilpans.com/400.html
A A 3. [68]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:08:26 +0000
From: Julian Kift <[69]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan bolt
pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is front
sump Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it
may not be listed on the website.
I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to
run an oil temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp
more than water temp.
Julian
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block 400CI
build.
A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
Pantera,
but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that states
it is
for a Pantera.
Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
[76]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[77]rob at dumoulins.net
[78]www.kbsi.co<[79]http://www.kbsi.co>
[80]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan
bolt
A A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
A A Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will
A A make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
A A listed on the website.
A A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
A A a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
A A temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more
than water
A A temp.
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: DeTomaso <[81]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
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A A Rob DuMoulin <[82]rob at dumoulins.net>
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A A To: P - Mail List <[83]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
A A build.
A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
A A Pantera,
A A but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
A A is
A A for a Pantera.
A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
A A [1][84]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A Rob DuMoulin
A A 904.476.8744
A A [85]rob at dumoulins.net
A A [2][86]www.kbsi.co
A A [3][87]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
References
A A 1. [88]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A 2. [89]http://www.kbsi.co/
A A 3. [90]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:19:56 +0100
From: Thomas T?rnblom <[91]thomas at hax.se>
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I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also. That
must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline of
the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[95]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>
> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan
bolt
>A A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
>A A Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will
>A A make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
>A A listed on the website.
>
>A A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
>A A a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
>A A temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more
than water
>A A temp.
>
>A A Julian
>A A
A __________________________________________________________________
>
>A A From: DeTomaso <[96]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
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>A A Rob DuMoulin <[97]rob at dumoulins.net>
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>
>A A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>A A build.
>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for
the
>A A Pantera,
>A A but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
>A A is
>A A for a Pantera.
>A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>A A [1][99]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>A A Rob DuMoulin
>A A 904.476.8744
>A A [100]rob at dumoulins.net
>A A [2][101]www.kbsi.co
>A A [3][102]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> References
>
>A A 1. [103]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>A A 2. [104]http://www.kbsi.co/
>A A 3. [105]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:51:44 -0800
From: Mike Drew <[108]mikeldrew at aol.com>
To: Thomas T?rnblom <[109]thomas at hax.se>
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Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does
it the same way.
(Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
Mike
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> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <[112]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>
> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
>
>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[113]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil
pan bolt
>>A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
>>A Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will
>>A make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
>>A listed on the website.
>>
>>A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
>>A a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
>>A temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more
than water
>>A temp.
>>
>>A Julian
>>A A
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>>A From: DeTomaso <[114]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
>>A Rob DuMoulin <[115]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>A To: P - Mail List <[116]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>
>>A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>>A build.
>>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for
the
>>A Pantera,
>>A but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
>>A is
>>A for a Pantera.
>>A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>A [1][117]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A Rob DuMoulin
>>A 904.476.8744
>>A [118]rob at dumoulins.net
>>A [2][119]www.kbsi.co
>>A [3][120]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>
>> References
>>
>>A 1. [121]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A 2. [122]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>A 3. [123]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:09:09 +0000
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In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as
well, with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes
separately whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer
with a pan purchase.
[133]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
[134]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/par
t-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
Julian
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From: Mike Drew <[135]mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
To: Thomas T?rnblom <[136]thomas at hax.se>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does
it the same way.
(Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <[139]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>
> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
>
>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[140]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil
pan bolt
>>A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
>>A Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will
>>A make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
>>A listed on the website.
>>
>>A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
>>A a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
>>A temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more
than water
>>A temp.
>>
>>A Julian
>>A A
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>>A From: DeTomaso <[141]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
>>A Rob DuMoulin <[142]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>A To: P - Mail List <[143]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>
>>A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>>A build.
>>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for
the
>>A Pantera,
>>A but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
>>A is
>>A for a Pantera.
>>A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>A [1][144]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A Rob DuMoulin
>>A 904.476.8744
>>A [145]rob at dumoulins.net
>>A [2][146]www.kbsi.co
>>A [3][147]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>
>> References
>>
>>A 1. [148]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A 2. [149]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>A 3. [150]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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A A In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market
as well,
A A with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes
separately
A A whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with a
pan
A A purchase.
A
A [1][155]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
A
A [2][156]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/product
s/part-f60
A A 2-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Mike Drew <[157]mikeldrew at aol.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
A A To: Thomas Toernblom <[158]thomas at hax.se>
A A Cc: Julian Kift <[159]julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List
A A <[160]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
they
A A build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid
does it
A A the same way.
A A (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his
own,
A A essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
A A Mike
A A Sent from my iPad
A A > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas Toernblom
<[161]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
A A >
A A > I'm surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C
also. That
A A must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the
A A pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build
A A them?
A A >
A A >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[162]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A >>
A A >>A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland
oil pan bolt
A A >>A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400
is front
A A sump
A A >>A Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style
block, they
A A will
A A >>A make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it
may not
A A be
A A >>A listed on the website.
A A >>
A A >>A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now
only
A A includes
A A >>A a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to
run an
A A oil
A A >>A temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp
more than
A A water
A A >>A temp.
A A >>
A A >>A Julian
A A >>
A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A >>
A A >>A From: DeTomaso
<[163]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
A A of
A A >>A Rob DuMoulin <[164]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A >>A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
A A >>A To: P - Mail List <[165]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A >>A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A >>
A A >>A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum
block 400CI
A A >>A build.
A A >>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
for the
A A >>A Pantera,
A A >>A but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below)
that
A A states it
A A >>A is
A A >>A for a Pantera.
A A >>A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
A A >>A [1][166]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A >>A Rob DuMoulin
A A >>A 904.476.8744
A A >>A [167]rob at dumoulins.net
A A >>A [2][168]www.kbsi.co
A A >>A [3][169]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
A A >>
A A >> References
A A >>
A A >>A 1. [3][170]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A >>A 2. [4][171]http://www.kbsi.co/
A A >>A 3.
[5][172]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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[177]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
A A 2.
[178]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/par
t-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
A A 3. [179]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:47:54 -0500
From: Dick Koch <[184]redcatman74 at gmail.com>
To: Rob DuMoulin <[185]rob at dumoulins.net>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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Rob, it is the 404 pan you want. See attached pictures of my pan,A
along
with the oil pickup.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 1:40 PM Rob DuMoulin <[188]rob at dumoulins.net>
wrote:
>A A I am aboutAA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum
block 400CI
>A A build.AA A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I
want
>A A forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on their
website
>A A (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
>A A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>A A [1][189]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>A A Rob DuMoulin
>A A 904.476.8744
>A A [2][190]rob at dumoulins.net
>A A [3][191]www.kbsi.co
>A A [4][192]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>
> References
>
>A A 1. [193]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>A A 2. mailto:[194]rob at dumoulins.net
>A A 3. [195]http://www.kbsi.co/
>A A 4. [196]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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A A Rob, it is the 404 pan you want. See attached pictures of my
pan,A
A A along with the oil pickup.
A A On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 1:40 PM Rob DuMoulin
<[1][199]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A wrote:
A A A AA A I am aboutAAA to order an Armando Oil pan for my
aluminum block
A A A 400CI
A A A AA A build.AAA A I have been told that the model 400 was
the one I
A A A want
A A A AA A forA the Pantera, but there is a model 404 listed on
their
A A A website
A A A AA A (below) that states it is for a Pantera.
A A A AA A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between
them?
A A A AA A [1][2][200]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A A AA A Rob DuMoulin
A A A AA A 904.476.8744
A A A AA A [2][3][201]rob at dumoulins.net
A A A AA A [3][4][202]www.kbsi.co
A A A AA A
[4][5][203]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
A A A References
A A A AA A 1. [6][204]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A A AA A 2. mailto:[7][205]rob at dumoulins.net
A A A AA A 3. [8][206]http://www.kbsi.co/
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A A 3. mailto:[212]rob at dumoulins.net
A A 4. [213]http://www.kbsi.co/
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:17:30 -0800
From: Dave Londry <[225]davel at trguys.com>
To: Julian Kift <[226]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: Mike Drew <[227]mikeldrew at aol.com>, P - Mail List
A A A A <[228]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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I have a Cleveland Kevco pan from 9 years ago. The pickup was a
separate part number. It?s a built-from-scratch piece and I believe
it originated as a circle-track part.
Dave
Dave Londry.A A
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[230]davel at trguys.com
604 621 2278 (iPhone)
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Julian Kift
<[231]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?A A In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan
market as well,
>A A with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes
separately
>A A whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer with
a pan
>A A purchase.
>
>A
A [1][232]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
>
>A
A [2][233]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/product
s/part-f60
>A A 2-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
>
>A A Julian
>A A
A __________________________________________________________________
>
>A A From: Mike Drew <[234]mikeldrew at aol.com>
>A A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
>A A To: Thomas Toernblom <[235]thomas at hax.se>
>A A Cc: Julian Kift <[236]julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List
>A A <[237]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>
>A A Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
they
>A A build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor.
Aviaid does it
>A A the same way.
>A A (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his
own,
>A A essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>A A Mike
>A A Sent from my iPad
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas Toernblom <[238]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>>
>> I'm surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That
>A A must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general
outline of the
>A A pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build
>A A them?
>>
>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[239]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>>A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil pan
bolt
>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front
>A A sump
>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they
>A A will
>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not
>A A be
>>> listed on the website.
>>>
>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
>A A includes
>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an
>A A oil
>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than
>A A water
>>> temp.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>A
A __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <[240]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf
>A A of
>>> Rob DuMoulin <[241]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>> To: P - Mail List <[242]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>>
>>> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>>> build.
>>>A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
>>> Pantera,
>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
>A A states it
>>> is
>>> for a Pantera.
>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>> [1][243]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>> Rob DuMoulin
>>> 904.476.8744
>>> [244]rob at dumoulins.net
>>> [2][245]www.kbsi.co
>>> [3][246]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. [3][247]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>> 2. [4][248]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>> 3. [5][249]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>
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[255]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/par
t-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:53:58 -0800
From: "thells" <[263]thells at earthlink.net>
To: "'Julian Kift'" <[264]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'Mike Drew'"
A A A A <[265]mikeldrew at aol.com>, 'Thomas T?rnblom'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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My new Dart/CHI Clevor motor has a Kevko Windsor pan for a Pantera,
it looked well made.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
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Julian Kift
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:09 PM
To: Mike Drew; Thomas T?rnblom
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market as
well, with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup tubes
separately whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube & strainer
with a pan purchase.
[270]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
[271]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/par
t-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
Julian
________________________________
From: Mike Drew <[272]mikeldrew at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
To: Thomas T?rnblom <[273]thomas at hax.se>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and they
build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid does
it the same way.
(Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <[276]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>
> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
>
>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[277]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>
>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil
pan bolt
>>A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front
>> sumpA Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style
block,
>> they willA make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern
although it
>> may not beA listed on the website.
>>
>>A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
>> includesA a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you
want to
>> run an oilA temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil
temp
>> more than waterA temp.
>>
>>A Julian
>>A A
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>>A From: DeTomaso <[278]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf
>> ofA Rob DuMoulin <[279]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>A To: P - Mail List <[280]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>
>>A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CIA
>> build.
>>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for
theA
>> Pantera,A but there is a model 404 listed on their website
(below)
>> that states itA isA for a Pantera.
>>A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>A [1][281]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A Rob DuMoulin
>>A 904.476.8744
>>A [282]rob at dumoulins.net
>>A [2][283]www.kbsi.co
>>A [3][284]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>
>> References
>>
>>A 1. [285]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>A 2. [286]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>A 3. [287]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:04:10 -0500
From: Will Kooiman <[293]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: thells <[294]thells at earthlink.net>, 'Julian Kift'
A A A A <[295]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Mike Drew'
<[296]mikeldrew at aol.com>, 'Thomas
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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I had Armando build a pan for me last year, or maybe it was the year
before.A I have a Dart block that takes a 351W pan.
The PN wasn't on their website.A I called and told Armando what I
wanted - "351W in a Pantera".A That's all it took.
?On 1/28/21, 6:52 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of thells"
<[300]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[301]thells at earthlink.net> wrote:
A A My new Dart/CHI Clevor motor has a Kevko Windsor pan for a
Pantera, it looked well made.
A A Dan
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[302]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Kift
A A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:09 PM
A A To: Mike Drew; Thomas T?rnblom
A A Cc: P - Mail List
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A In recent years Kevko have gotten into the Pantera pan market
as well, with a Cleveland or Windsor variant. Kevko sell pickup
tubes separately whereas Armando & Aviaid supply a pickup tube &
strainer with a pan purchase.
A A
[303]https://kevkoracing.com/products/part-905-ford-pantera-pan
A A
[304]https://kevkoracing.com/collections/ford-cleveland/products/par
t-f602-400-m-ford-pantera-pan
A A Julian
A A ________________________________
A A From: Mike Drew <[305]mikeldrew at aol.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:51 AM
A A To: Thomas T?rnblom <[306]thomas at hax.se>
A A Cc: Julian Kift <[307]julian_kift at hotmail.com>; P - Mail List
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A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
they build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid
does it the same way.
A A (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his
own, essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
A A Mike
A A Sent from my iPad
A A > On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom
<[309]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
A A >
A A > ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C
also. That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general
outline of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan
when they build them?
A A >
A A >> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[310]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A >>
A A >> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland
oil pan bolt
A A >>A pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400
is front
A A >> sumpA Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style
block,
A A >> they willA make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern
although it
A A >> may not beA listed on the website.
A A >>
A A >>A I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now
only
A A >> includesA a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if
you want to
A A >> run an oilA temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the
oil temp
A A >> more than waterA temp.
A A >>
A A >>A Julian
A A >>A A
__________________________________________________________________
A A >>
A A >>A From: DeTomaso
<[311]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
A A >> ofA Rob DuMoulin <[312]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A >>A Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
A A >>A To: P - Mail List <[313]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A >>A Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A >>
A A >>A I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum
block 400CIA
A A >> build.
A A >>A A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
for theA
A A >> Pantera,A but there is a model 404 listed on their website
(below)
A A >> that states itA isA for a Pantera.
A A >>A Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between
them?
A A >>A [1][314]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A >>A Rob DuMoulin
A A >>A 904.476.8744
A A >>A [315]rob at dumoulins.net
A A >>A [2][316]www.kbsi.co
A A >>A [3][317]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
A A >>
A A >> References
A A >>
A A >>A 1. [318]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A >>A 2. [319]http://www.kbsi.co/
A A >>A 3. [320]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:25:29 -0800
From: Scott Mead Photography <[328]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
To: Mike Drew <[329]mikeldrew at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
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So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[332]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
they build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid
does it the same way.
>
> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his own,
essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <[333]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>>
>> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
>>
>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[334]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil
pan bolt
>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block, they
will
>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
>>> listed on the website.
>>>
>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more than
water
>>> temp.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>A
A __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <[335]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
>>> Rob DuMoulin <[336]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>> To: P - Mail List <[337]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>>
>>> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>>> build.
>>>A I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
>>> Pantera,
>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
>>> is
>>> for a Pantera.
>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>> [1][338]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>> Rob DuMoulin
>>> 904.476.8744
>>> [339]rob at dumoulins.net
>>> [2][340]www.kbsi.co
>>> [3][341]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. [342]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>> 2. [343]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>> 3. [344]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:34:45 -0800
From: Mike Drew <[351]mikeldrew at aol.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <[352]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
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Scott,
I can?t tell them apart. They are nominally identical. Armando used
to make them when he worked at Aviaid and uses exactly the same
process now that he is on his own.A So I think it?s fair to say
they are identical.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 18:25, Scott Mead Photography
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>
> ?So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[356]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with and
they build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor. Aviaid
does it the same way.
>>
>> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on his
own, essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom <[357]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>>>
>>> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C also.
That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general outline
of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan when they
build them?
>>>
>>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[358]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or Cleveland oil
pan bolt
>>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400 is
front sump
>>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style block,
they will
>>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it may
not be
>>>> listed on the website.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now only
includes
>>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want to run
an oil
>>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp more
than water
>>>> temp.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>A
__________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: DeTomaso <[359]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
>>>> Rob DuMoulin <[360]rob at dumoulins.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
>>>> To: P - Mail List <[361]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
>>>>
>>>> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum block
400CI
>>>> build.
>>>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want for the
>>>> Pantera,
>>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below) that
states it
>>>> is
>>>> for a Pantera.
>>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between them?
>>>> [1][362]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>>> Rob DuMoulin
>>>> 904.476.8744
>>>> [363]rob at dumoulins.net
>>>> [2][364]www.kbsi.co
>>>> [3][365]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1. [366]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
>>>> 2. [367]http://www.kbsi.co/
>>>> 3. [368]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>>>>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:41:51 -0500
From: Will Kooiman <[375]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Mike Drew <[376]mikeldrew at aol.com>, Scott Mead Photography
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I agree with Mike.A I have an Armando on my Pantera.A I have an
Aviaid on my Cobra.A The quality is the same.
?On 1/28/21, 9:34 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
<[380]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[381]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A Scott,
A A I can?t tell them apart. They are nominally identical. Armando
used to make them when he worked at Aviaid and uses exactly the same
process now that he is on his own.A So I think it?s fair to say
they are identical.
A A Mike
A A Sent from my iPad
A A > On Jan 28, 2021, at 18:25, Scott Mead Photography
<[382]scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
A A >
A A > ?So, who makes the better oil pan? Aviaid or Armando?
A A >
A A > Sent from my iPhone
A A >
A A >> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[383]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A >>
A A >> ?Yes, you tell them what kind of motor you are working with
and they build a Pantera pan on a stock donor pan for that motor.
Aviaid does it the same way.
A A >>
A A >> (Armando worked for Aviaid for years before he set off on
his own, essentially building Aviaid pans under his own name).
A A >>
A A >> Mike
A A >>
A A >> Sent from my iPad
A A >>
A A >>>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:20, Thomas T?rnblom
<[384]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
A A >>>
A A >>> ?I?m surprised they list the Windsor pans as fitting 351C
also. That must surely be a mistake, or? Or is it just the general
outline of the pan and they start with a Windsor or Cleveland pan
when they build them?
A A >>>
A A >>>>> 28 jan. 2021 kl. 20:08 skrev Julian Kift
<[385]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A >>>>
A A >>>> ?A A Does your aluminum block have a Windsor or
Cleveland oil pan bolt
A A >>>> pattern? For 351C pattern you want the #404 pan (the 400
is front sump
A A >>>> Mustang pan for a 351W). If you have a Windsor style
block, they will
A A >>>> make the #404 in a Windosr style bolt pattern although it
may not be
A A >>>> listed on the website.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> I cannot recall whether it is Aviaid or Armando that now
only includes
A A >>>> a temp bung on request, but worth verifying if you want
to run an oil
A A >>>> temperature gauge.. Personally, I rely on the oil temp
more than water
A A >>>> temp.
A A >>>>
A A >>>> Julian
A A >>>>A
__________________________________________________________________
A A >>>>
A A >>>> From: DeTomaso
<[386]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
A A >>>> Rob DuMoulin <[387]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:41 AM
A A >>>> To: P - Mail List <[388]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Armandos Oil Pans
A A >>>>
A A >>>> I am aboutA to order an Armando Oil pan for my aluminum
block 400CI
A A >>>> build.
A A >>>> I have been told that the model 400 was the one I want
for the
A A >>>> Pantera,
A A >>>> but there is a model 404 listed on their website (below)
that states it
A A >>>> is
A A >>>> for a Pantera.
A A >>>> Anybody have first-hand knowledge of the fit between
them?
A A >>>> [1][389]http://www.aroilpans.com/roadrace.html
A A >>>> Rob DuMoulin
A A >>>> 904.476.8744
A A >>>> [390]rob at dumoulins.net
A A >>>> [2][391]www.kbsi.co
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A A >>>> 2. [394]http://www.kbsi.co/
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