[DeTomaso] NPC: Maserati Kyalami - Rebadged/Repowered Longchamp?

[Charles Engles]

Dear Roland,

                 Thank you for the first hand report.  Without your front line reports from Europe, we would labor on with third and fourth-hand articles and still be ignorant.  I appreciate your comments.

                              Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Roland Jaeckel
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 12:59 PM
To: Mike Drew
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Maserati Kyalami - Rebadged/Repowered Longchamp?

Sorry to disturb, as an (former)owner and one of the rare, that wrenchend on all four cars, i have to say, that we are talking about absolutely different cars. First of all Maserati modified the chassis and DeTomaso adoptet ist for the Longchamp and the Deauville. The Quattroporte uses a longer chassis, than the Deauville. The Maserati engeneers where so clever to make the main driveshaft in two parts with a middle bearing. That eleminates the vibrations on the rear axle nearly 100%. All the electrical system in the Maserati is engeneered by Jaeger in France and not Veglia from Italy. Wiring loom, conectors etc. all ae different. Little example for the Maserati cleverness, all Pantera, Longchamp and Deauville owners struggle with the unwilled moving of the upper balljoints. US vendors came up with an adapter on the a-arms, Maserati used shims with teeth toeleminate the movement. On the more heavier Quattroporte it was never ever a problem. There are so many uncounted differnces between these cars, that not many people know of. Driving those is like seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger dancing compared to the dancing of Fred Astaire....

> Am 11.01.2021 um 18:28 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Yup! When De Tomaso bought Maserati he needed to come up with new models to bring to market, on the cheap. 
> 
> He turned to Pietro Frua to style a new car, which would be powered by the quad-cam Maserati V8 but be built on the unmodified Lomgchamp chassis. So for a fraction of the investment normally needed to produce a new car, Maserati soon had an all-new model. 
> 
> In a similar manner, he needed to bring a new Quattroporte to market, so he had Guigiaro pencil a new body design that would be laid atop an unmodified Deauville chassis.
> 
> Today, owners of Longchamps and Deauvilles often turn to Maserati parts suppliers for mechanical components to keep their cars running. 
> 
> Fun fact:  Tom Tjaarda and his wife lived in a very nice apartment that they bought from Pietro Frua, which was formerly his home. Small world indeed!
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 07:22, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    OK, maybe I'm just late to the party here but I didn't realize that
>> Maserati released their own version of the Longchamp in the Kyalami.
>> Take a look at this BaT auction, there is no mistaking the Longchamp
>> lines.  It does have the quad-cam Maser motor rather than the
>> Cleveland.
>> 
>> 
>> [1]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-maserati-kyalami/
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Thomas
>> 
>> References
>> 
>> 1. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-maserati-kyalami/
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