[DeTomaso] How come Alejandro de Tomaso called his most famous car a Pantera ?

Ken and Lela MacArthur klckmac at msn.com
Fri Dec 10 12:07:00 EST 2021


Well, let's see..... Mongoose eats Cobra, Panther eats Mongoose....it's the food chain! Lol, 🙂

Ken
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:43 PM
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Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How come Alejandro de Tomaso called his most famous car a Pantera ?

"I "thought" it was a comment comparing a pouncing cat with all that
"power" in the rear haunches"

That's how Tom Tjaarda described the design in his speeches. Do not know if
he actually used it as a design consideration or if it came into use as a
marketing construct after the car was already named.

Jeff
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:08 PM JFByrd via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> I "thought" it was a comment comparing a pouncing cat with all that
> "power" in the rear haunches
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>     On Thursday, December 9, 2021, 07:37:48 PM CST, racerglen--- via
> DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>    Aren't a cougar and pantera the same animal?
>
>   Glen
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>   On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:33 PM, MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
>   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>   Originally they were going to use the Cobra name. Early magazine
>   reports of the prototype call it that.
>   I believe it was Rick McBride, the guy who did the initial press
>   photography of the yellow prototype, who first suggested Pantera? Could
>   be urban legend thougha|.
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPhone
>   > On Dec 9, 2021, at 17:24, Michael Becker <[2]mikebecker679 at gmail.com>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > i>>?  Maybe it had something to do with the mindset of Ford and
>   Lincoln
>   >  Mercury at the time.A  Lincoln's theme catch phrase at the time was
>   >  "the sign of the cat". A popular car in their lineup at the time was
>   >  the Cougar. Maybe they wanted a another cat name with a foreign
>   twist.
>   >  Mike
>   >
>   >  On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 11:21 Patrick HALS
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>   >    A  A Everyone knows why the Mangusta is called the Mangusta.A
>   >    A  A But why exactly is the Pantera called the Pantera ?
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   Well, let's see..... Mongoose eats Cobra, Panther eats Mongoose....it's
   the food chain! Lol,

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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:43 PM
   To: byrdjf at embarqmail.com <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How come Alejandro de Tomaso called his most
   famous car a Pantera ?

   "I "thought" it was a comment comparing a pouncing cat with all that
   "power" in the rear haunches"
   That's how Tom Tjaarda described the design in his speeches. Do not
   know if
   he actually used it as a design consideration or if it came into use as
   a
   marketing construct after the car was already named.
   Jeff
   6559
   On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:08 PM JFByrd via DeTomaso <
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   > I "thought" it was a comment comparing a pouncing cat with all that
   > "power" in the rear haunches
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
   Of B
   > Hower via DeTomaso
   > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:41 PM
   > To: MICHAEL DREW <mikeldrew at aol.com>; MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso <
   > detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Michael Becker
   <mikebecker679 at gmail.com>;
   > racerglen at aol.com
   > Cc: Patrick HALS <patrickhals at gmail.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] How come Alejandro de Tomaso called his most
   > famous car a Pantera ?
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   >     On Thursday, December 9, 2021, 07:37:48 PM CST, racerglen--- via
   > DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >    Aren't a cougar and pantera the same animal?
   >
   >   Glen
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   >
   >   On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:33 PM, MICHAEL DREW via DeTomaso
   >   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >   Originally they were going to use the Cobra name. Early magazine
   >   reports of the prototype call it that.
   >   I believe it was Rick McBride, the guy who did the initial press
   >   photography of the yellow prototype, who first suggested Pantera?
   Could
   >   be urban legend thougha|.
   >   Mike
   >   Sent from my iPhone
   >   > On Dec 9, 2021, at 17:24, Michael Becker
   <[2]mikebecker679 at gmail.com>
   >   wrote:
   >   >
   >   > i>>?  Maybe it had something to do with the mindset of Ford and
   >   Lincoln
   >   >  Mercury at the time.A  Lincoln's theme catch phrase at the time
   was
   >   >  "the sign of the cat". A popular car in their lineup at the time
   was
   >   >  the Cougar. Maybe they wanted a another cat name with a foreign
   >   twist.
   >   >  Mike
   >   >
   >   >  On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 11:21 Patrick HALS
   >   <[1][3]patrickhals at gmail.com>
   >   >  wrote:
   >   >
   >   >    A  A Everyone knows why the Mangusta is called the Mangusta.A
   >   >    A  A But why exactly is the Pantera called the Pantera ?
   >   >    A  A Thank youA
   >   >    A  A Patrick Hals
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