[DeTomaso] Help with Modifications

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Sun Sep 27 19:11:49 EDT 2020


I have a set of those radiator tubes from Pantera Performance. Brand new and never been used. I'll sell for $75 bucks for the pair not including shipping if you need them.Marshall SmithSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net> Date: 9/27/20  3:39 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com> Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help with Modifications When Dave Doddek and some Great Lakes members helped with the R&R of my 74L we removed the dash for the AC modifications. My car has race shutoff valves for the heater tubes in the engine compartment. The only thing holding the tube together that connects to the heater control valve and the heater was the rubber hose. The ends of the original tubes were rusted almost totally through. Stainless tubes from Dennis Quella helped restore the heater connections. ( You must drill the spot welds on the passenger side of the console. Cut the tubes in half with a Sawzall from the console opening and remove the rotten tubes. New tubes must be installed from the engine compartment which means you must remove the engine and transmission. This is the perfect time to install stainless radiator tubesat the same time.Good Luck,Gerry Romack> On 09/27/2020 1:27 PM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:> >  > Richard> > My fan brackets and the cross member they are mounted to are totally> removed and there's been no repercussions in 13 years.> > I've never heard of the tubes in the console rusting. They'd be easy to> inspect.> > Jeff> 6559> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 2:32 PM Richard Greenblum <> richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:> >    All,> >> >    1.  In the process of replacing my engine, I'm going to be installing> > a new lay-down radiator.  I've removed the Meriah fans and have been> > told. the mounting brackets are not structural.  It looks to me like> > cutting them out altogether will leave the lower section weaker allowing it> > to move or vibrate.  Did those of you with lay-downs cut all of> > the brackets away, or leave the most frontal section of them?> >> >    2.  Has anyone replaced the water tubes that run inside the tunnel?> > I haven't removed the dash or center section, just the console> > which exposed virtually nothing but what you can see through the hole in> > the tunnel (obviously no help).  Can you remove the rivets in the> > engine bay, pry/chisel the retaining plate away from the bulkhead, then> > remove> > some form of retainer(s) close to the evaporator box and swap them,> > or does it take very serious surgery?> >> >> >    Thank you,> >> >    Richard> >    Austin, TX> >> > _______________________________________________> >> >> > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA> >> > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes> >> > DeTomaso mailing list> >> > DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com> >> > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> >> >> >> > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use> > the links above.> >> >> >> > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any> > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.> > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve> > the archiving of list messages.>    Richard> >    My fan brackets and the cross member they are mounted to are totally>    removed and there's been no repercussions in 13 years.A> >    I've never heard of the tubes in the console rusting. They'd be easy to>    inspect.A> >    Jeff> >    6559> >    On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 2:32 PM Richard Greenblum>    <[1]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:> >      A  A All,>      A  A 1.A  In the process of replacing my engine, I'm going to be>      installing aA new lay-down radiator.A  I've removed the Meriah fans>      and have been told.A the mounting brackets are not structural.A  It>      looks to me like cuttingA them out altogether will leave the lower>      section weaker allowing it toA move or vibrate.A  Did those of you>      with lay-downs cut all of theA brackets away, or leave the most>      frontal section of them?>      A  A 2.A  Has anyone replaced the water tubes that run inside the>      tunnel?A  IA haven't removed the dash or center section, just the>      console whichA exposed virtually nothing but what you can see>      through the hole in theA tunnel (obviously no help).A  Can you>      remove the rivets in the engineA bay, pry/chisel the retaining plate>      away from the bulkhead, then remove>      some form of retainer(s) close to the evaporator box and swap them,>      orA does it take very serious surgery?>      A  A Thank you,>      A  A Richard>      A  A Austin, TX>      _______________________________________________>      Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA>      Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes>      DeTomaso mailing list>      [2]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>      [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>      To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,>      etc.) use the links above.>      Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward>      any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of>      the list. 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   I have a set of those radiator tubes from Pantera Performance. Brand
   new and never been used. I'll sell for $75 bucks for the pair not
   including shipping if you need them.

   Marshall Smith

   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   -------- Original message --------
   From: GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>
   Date: 9/27/20 3:39 PM (GMT-08:00)
   To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, Richard Greenblum
   <richard at richardgreenblum.com>
   Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Help with Modifications

   When Dave Doddek and some Great Lakes members helped with the R&R of my
   74L we removed the dash for the AC modifications. My car has race
   shutoff valves for the heater tubes in the engine compartment. The only
   thing holding the tube together that connects to the heater control
   valve and the heater was the rubber hose. The ends of the original
   tubes were rusted almost totally through. Stainless tubes from Dennis
   Quella helped restore the heater connections. ( You must drill the spot
   welds on the passenger side of the console. Cut the tubes in half with
   a Sawzall from the console opening and remove the rotten tubes. New
   tubes must be installed from the engine compartment which means you
   must remove the engine and transmission. This is the perfect time to
   install stainless radiator tubes
   at the same time.
   Good Luck,
   Gerry Romack
   > On 09/27/2020 1:27 PM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >
   > Richard
   >
   > My fan brackets and the cross member they are mounted to are totally
   > removed and there's been no repercussions in 13 years.
   >
   > I've never heard of the tubes in the console rusting. They'd be easy
   to
   > inspect.
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 2:32 PM Richard Greenblum <
   > richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
   >
   >    All,
   > >
   > >    1.  In the process of replacing my engine, I'm going to be
   installing
   > > a new lay-down radiator.  I've removed the Meriah fans and have
   been
   > > told. the mounting brackets are not structural.  It looks to me
   like
   > > cutting them out altogether will leave the lower section weaker
   allowing it
   > > to move or vibrate.  Did those of you with lay-downs cut all of
   > > the brackets away, or leave the most frontal section of them?
   > >
   > >    2.  Has anyone replaced the water tubes that run inside the
   tunnel?
   > > I haven't removed the dash or center section, just the console
   > > which exposed virtually nothing but what you can see through the
   hole in
   > > the tunnel (obviously no help).  Can you remove the rivets in the
   > > engine bay, pry/chisel the retaining plate away from the bulkhead,
   then
   > > remove
   > > some form of retainer(s) close to the evaporator box and swap them,
   > > or does it take very serious surgery?
   > >
   > >
   > >    Thank you,
   > >
   > >    Richard
   > >    Austin, TX
   > >
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   >    Richard
   >
   >    My fan brackets and the cross member they are mounted to are
   totally
   >    removed and there's been no repercussions in 13 years.A
   >
   >    I've never heard of the tubes in the console rusting. They'd be
   easy to
   >    inspect.A
   >
   >    Jeff
   >
   >    6559
   >
   >    On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 2:32 PM Richard Greenblum
   >    <[1]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
   >
   >      A  A All,
   >      A  A 1.A  In the process of replacing my engine, I'm going to be
   >      installing aA new lay-down radiator.A  I've removed the Meriah
   fans
   >      and have been told.A the mounting brackets are not structural.A
   It
   >      looks to me like cuttingA them out altogether will leave the
   lower
   >      section weaker allowing it toA move or vibrate.A  Did those of
   you
   >      with lay-downs cut all of theA brackets away, or leave the most
   >      frontal section of them?
   >      A  A 2.A  Has anyone replaced the water tubes that run inside
   the
   >      tunnel?A  IA haven't removed the dash or center section, just
   the
   >      console whichA exposed virtually nothing but what you can see
   >      through the hole in theA tunnel (obviously no help).A  Can you
   >      remove the rivets in the engineA bay, pry/chisel the retaining
   plate
   >      away from the bulkhead, then remove
   >      some form of retainer(s) close to the evaporator box and swap
   them,
   >      orA does it take very serious surgery?
   >      A  A Thank you,
   >      A  A Richard
   >      A  A Austin, TX
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