[DeTomaso] BaT: Non-running survivor '74 sells for $95K

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 5 11:52:04 EST 2020


 Does it make sense that the Ford blue is gone on the block behind the headers?  The metal behind the front shocks looks way too good?  

I worry about any car that was in Florida, salt air is a disaster.  It's like the myth of rust free California cars when they were kept near the ocean and everything rusts.


    On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 7:29:15 AM PST, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Did it say blown or non-running?

This will go to a collector not a driver, so who really cares if the engine runs?  And if it doesn't, it would be easy to rebuild - which you'd probably do anyway on a new purchase. 

On 11/5/20, 1:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

    All,

    Personally I think the seller hit it out of the park with this one. With a blown engine I would have guessed maybe $55k, tops....

    Mike

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    > On Nov 4, 2020, at 23:53, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
    > 
    >  I shouldn't be such a critic. There are plenty of things not original
    >  or definitely well-used to know this car most likely has more than
    >  9,000 miles on it.  I compiled a list but why bother sharing, you've
    >  probably noted those items already.
    >  Yes, it had slight body damage and a repaint (noted in receipt).  Yes,
    >  it shows original Arriva's but notes indicate they didn't come with the
    >  car when traded in earlier.  Some engine parts aren't original, but it
    >  looks like some original parts come with it.
    >  I'm probably about as cheap as they get.  I probably wouldn't have paid
    >  $95K for this car, but it does appear to be in relatively good shape.
    >  I would say it's in -some- better shape than 5533 when I bought it, but
    >  there are other aspects (mechanically) that I can't verify.
    >  The nice thing is that it doesn't look molested to a point of no
    >  return.  It's really close to stock if a person wanted to go that
    >  route, or it's a nice base model to start from and make it your own,
    >  which is what I would do, as tastefully as I could and as I did with
    >  5533 (for the most part).
    >  I'm sure the buyer is probably thrilled and that's fine.  They spent
    >  what they felt it was worth to them and I hope they come here to
    >  experience the wealth of knowledge and experience this group gives out,
    >  to make the new owners experience the best it can be.
    >  Asa  Jay
    > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
    > Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
    > ******************************
    > [1]https://w7tsc.org
    > [2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
    > 
    >  On 11/4/2020 16:50, Michael Becker wrote:
    > 
    >  The key reason perhaps being the alleged actual 9,000 miles on the
    >  odo.A  I'm not convinced, but some of the picture do appear to show
    >  very light wear, while others show quite heavy wear.A  A It is alleged
    >  to have not moved for 25 years,A  but I suspect it moved more than 9k
    >  during its first 25 years.A
    >  MikeA
    > 
    >  On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 12:42 Mike & Elizabeth [3]<[1]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
    >  wrote:
    > 
    >    A
    >    A [1][2][4]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-detomaso-pantera-proj
    >    ect/?utm
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    >    A _source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_watch
    >    ed_li
    >    A  A sting_ended
    >    A  A Seems like a rather high price for a non-running car that will
    >    need to
    >    A  A be thoroughly gone through to enjoy, unless plans are to roll
    >    it around
    >    A  A as a survivor only.A  Not my choice. . . .
    >    A  A It is the right color though.
    >    A  A Mike Thomas
    >    A  A Panteras Northwest
    >    References
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   Does it make sense that the Ford blue is gone on the block behind the
   headers?  The metal behind the front shocks looks way too good?
   I worry about any car that was in Florida, salt air is a disaster.
   It's like the myth of rust free California cars when they were kept
   near the ocean and everything rusts.

   On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 7:29:15 AM PST, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
   Did it say blown or non-running?
   This will go to a collector not a driver, so who really cares if the
   engine runs?  And if it doesn't, it would be easy to rebuild - which
   you'd probably do anyway on a new purchase.
   i>>?On 11/5/20, 1:10 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
       All,
       Personally I think the seller hit it out of the park with this one.
   With a blown engine I would have guessed maybe $55k, tops....
       Mike
       Sent from my iPhone
       > On Nov 4, 2020, at 23:53, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
   <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
       >
       >  I shouldn't be such a critic. There are plenty of things not
   original
       >  or definitely well-used to know this car most likely has more
   than
       >  9,000 miles on it.  I compiled a list but why bother sharing,
   you've
       >  probably noted those items already.
       >  Yes, it had slight body damage and a repaint (noted in
   receipt).  Yes,
       >  it shows original Arriva's but notes indicate they didn't come
   with the
       >  car when traded in earlier.  Some engine parts aren't original,
   but it
       >  looks like some original parts come with it.
       >  I'm probably about as cheap as they get.  I probably wouldn't
   have paid
       >  $95K for this car, but it does appear to be in relatively good
   shape.
       >  I would say it's in -some- better shape than 5533 when I bought
   it, but
       >  there are other aspects (mechanically) that I can't verify.
       >  The nice thing is that it doesn't look molested to a point of no
       >  return.  It's really close to stock if a person wanted to go
   that
       >  route, or it's a nice base model to start from and make it your
   own,
       >  which is what I would do, as tastefully as I could and as I did
   with
       >  5533 (for the most part).
       >  I'm sure the buyer is probably thrilled and that's fine.  They
   spent
       >  what they felt it was worth to them and I hope they come here to
       >  experience the wealth of knowledge and experience this group
   gives out,
       >  to make the new owners experience the best it can be.
       >  Asa  Jay
       > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
       > Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
       > ******************************
       > [1][4]https://w7tsc.org
       > [2][5]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
       >
       >  On 11/4/2020 16:50, Michael Becker wrote:
       >
       >  The key reason perhaps being the alleged actual 9,000 miles on
   the
       >  odo.A  I'm not convinced, but some of the picture do appear to
   show
       >  very light wear, while others show quite heavy wear.A  A It is
   alleged
       >  to have not moved for 25 years,A  but I suspect it moved more
   than 9k
       >  during its first 25 years.A
       >  MikeA
       >
       >  On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, 12:42 Mike & Elizabeth
   [3]<[1][6]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
       >  wrote:
       >
       >    A
       >    A
   [1][2][4][7]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-detomaso-pantera-pro
   j
       >    ect/?utm
       >    A
       >    A
   _source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_watch
       >    ed_li
       >    A  A sting_ended
       >    A  A Seems like a rather high price for a non-running car that
   will
       >    need to
       >    A  A be thoroughly gone through to enjoy, unless plans are to
   roll
       >    it around
       >    A  A as a survivor only.A  Not my choice. . . .
       >    A  A It is the right color though.
       >    A  A Mike Thomas
       >    A  A Panteras Northwest
       >    References
       >    A  A 1.
       >
   [3][5]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-detomaso-pantera-project/?
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