[DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good timing etc. Baffled and need Advice

[Mike Reilly]

Mike, your diagnosis was correct!  Your method to test was spot on and the car fired right up when I held the ignition switch in the start position and used the remote starter to start it up.  Thanks again to you and everyone who offered great troubleshooting suggestions.

Luckily I bought a brand new ignition switch 20 years ago at the San Diego swap meet when I live down there.  Now I at least know the culprit to my problem and can make the swap.

I may try to rebuild the old switch based on the instructions I saw on Panteraplace. Com

Much happy now and ready to get on the road again.  I know the world currently has larger problems than Panteras not starting but this car has always been a stress release for me and now I need it more than ever : )   Thanks again everyone!  What a great community : )  Regards, Mike Reilly

From: Mike Reilly<mailto:reillyms at live.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:03 AM
To: Mike Drew<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good timing etc. Baffled and need Advice

Mike, I have the original starter so your updated test is what I’ll try.  I first need to obtain a remote starter.  On the Forum Rocky had a good suggestion.  Pasted below for all to see.  I plan to try this as well.  My Pantera is #7366 (Late 74) and it never had a ballast resistor but instead a light blue “resistance wire” which in 1993 when I installed the Duraspark system was told to disconnect as the Duraspark didn’t need it.  When it was connected it was acting like a rev limiter.  When removed the car ran great from 1993 until now so I don’t think that’s the issue.  I plan to pursue the ignition switch first and then the duraspark box next.  I think my coil if fine as I get a good spark.  Thanks, Mike

From Rocky:
“A picture is worth a thousand words.
This schematic has been around for a while (He attached the Duraspark 2 wiring diagram in case the image doesn’t come through in the server mail).
Anyway - According to this, you should be able to just unplug the two wire connector from the Duraspark Box and check the connections at the Harness Side (not the Duraspark Module).
Check #1:  The red wire should be "hot" when you have the ignition in the "RUN" position.
Check #2:  The white wire should be "hot" when you are cranking the engine.  According to what I read - the white wire is the Ignition Retard for ease of cranking.
OOPS - this schematic shows a ballast resistor!”

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From: Mike Drew<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 10:32 PM
To: Mike Reilly<mailto:reillyms at live.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good timing etc. Baffled and need Advice

Mike,

I think my test advice below will only work if you have a modern starter with a built-in solenoid, that you can unplug at the starter. If you use the stock solenoid, and you unplug the wire from the switch to the solenoid, you can’t test to see if it will power the ignition.  What you would have to do is unplug the red wire that is coming from the switch, and unplug the orange wire going from the other side of the solenoid to the ignition system, and hook them together, bypassing the solenoid entirely. That way, when you turn the key to the ‘run’ position, it powers the ignition only. And your remote starter would power the starter only.

Mike

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> On May 16, 2020, at 22:08, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>> On May 16, 2020, at 21:53, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Sorry. Try this link:  [1]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F419467000&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657938437&sdata=56ED68MB0dx8Kws8Eyr4UO0o74cC5i2bBSBxcUP029c%3D&reserved=0
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>>
>>  Yeah, damn electrons!  Yes, to clarify it will just crank and crank and
>>  never seem to catch and start.  Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>>>> That statement directly contradicts the video. The video clearly shows the car starting and running until the ignition key is released. Classic burned out switch symptom.
>>
>>> I didn't plan to swap the ignition switch yet but to test that the
>>  wires were getting and sending juice in both the "start" and "on"
>>  mode.  I also agree that I may just need to start replacing things
>>  electronic if all testing fails.  My ignition system (the whole
>>  Duraspark) is old as I bought it from Hall in 1993!
>
>>>> Well, the motor runs when the ignition switch is powering it, in the start position. That eliminates everything downstream of the switch as a culprit. If you had a Duraspark problem I imagine it would just crank and crank and never fire at all.
>>
>>
>>> I probably also need to get a remote starter switch as my current
>>  "remote starter" e.g. my wife is losing interest : (
>>
>>>> With a remote starter and the key on, the car will probably crank and crank and not ever fire.
>
> Try this:
>
> Disconnect the wire from the key on the starter solenoid. Now when you turn the key to start, the starter doesn’t do anything. Hook your remote starter up to the solenoid instead. When you pull the trigger with the key off, the car will turn over as the starter operates, but the car won’t run.
>
> Try again with the key in the ‘run’ position. Probably the same result.
>
> THEN, try again with the key HELD in the spring-loaded ‘start’ position. The key won’t activate the starter because the wire is disconnected. But with the key held in the start position, that alternate ignition source will power the ignition system, and then you will probably be able to start the car with your remote starter. It should run until the key is released back to ‘run’ at which point it will quit.
>
> That will confirm the diagnosis.....
>
> Mike
>>
>>  Thanks, Mike R.
>>
>>
>>  From: [2]Mike Drew
>>  Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:40 PM
>>  To: [3]Mike Reilly
>>  Cc: [4]Asa Jay Laughton; [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good
>>  timing etc. Baffled and need Advice
>>
>>
>>  Mike,
>>  Clearly you and electrons aren't getting along at the moment!
>>  Your video link doesn't work (at least not for me).
>>  Can you be much more specific about what your car actually does?  You
>>  say it "won't start" But is that actually true?  Does it just crank and
>>  crank and crank? Or is the problem that it will start but won't run?
>>  That's what most of us seem to believe now.
>>  Don't change the whole ignition switch if you don't have to. Those
>>  switches are relatively rare and precious. You have an electrical
>>  problem. Change the electrical portion only, if necessary. If you don't
>>  want to buy a new electrical portion, swap it over from your extra
>>  switch assembly.
>>  Mike
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>>> On May 16, 2020, at 21:27, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks for the thoughts everyone.  Now that I have verified that
>>  the
>>> distributor pin is there and in good shape I reinstalled the
>>> distributor.  Checked timing and still would not start.  Here is a
>>> video of me trying to start it before my first post.  I tried no
>>> throttle, two pumps on the throttle and then holding the throttle
>>  to
>>> the floor.
>>>
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>>>
>>> Next I will check out the ignition switch.  I do have a spare if I
>>  need
>>> it which I bought probably 20 years ago at the San Diego swap meet
>>  when
>>> I lived there.
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing I had thought I listed in my initial email but seemed to
>>  have
>>> forgotten to add was that a month or so ago I was driving down a 40
>>  MPH
>>> side street and the car just died.  I had to coast to a safe
>>  parking
>>> lot.  When I stopped it did restart and drove with no problem.
>>  Maybe
>>> this points to the ignition switch as well.  Sorry I left that out
>>  : (
>>> We also had an internet outage for the past three days so I was
>>> composing mail on a small mobile device with spotty connections.
>>> Internet is back up but now I need to get the Pantera back in
>>> commission.  Thanks, Mike R.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [2]Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:02 PM
>>> To: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark,
>>  good
>>> timing etc. Baffled and need Advice
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds more like it could be the column switch.
>>> My initial thought was the timing gear, nylon, old, breaks off,
>>  lets
>>> the
>>> chain jump a few teeth. Ask me how I know.
>>> Soooo... when that happened to -me-, the engine cranked over very
>>> -smoothly- with no backfires in the carb and none out the exhaust,
>>  it
>>> just wouldn't start.  It wouldn't even catch.  But boy it turned
>>  over
>>> real smooth, like a Singer sewing machine.
>>> Since this one sounds like it catches but doesn't stay running, I'd
>>> lean
>>> toward the ignition switch.
>>> By the way, I was able to see my cam gear had broken nylon by
>>  looking
>>> through the distributor hole.  Not easy to do, but that's what
>>  showed
>>> me
>>> the nylon was gone.
>>> Asa  Jay
>>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
>>> ******************************
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>>>>> On 5/16/2020 19:05, B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
>>>>  How far off does the timing have to be before you no longer get
>>> any
>>>>  backfire while cranking ? I may be confused again, but it seems
>>> he has
>>>>  spark while cranking, thus cam is turning so should have air,
>>> gas
>>>>  squirts at carburetor. So if gas at cylinder and spark at
>>> cylinder,
>>>>  shouldn't you get some type of back fire?
>>>>  Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
>>> not be
>>>>  ! )
>>>>
>>>>  On Saturday, May 16, 2020, 8:51:28 PM CDT, Dave Londry
>>>>  <davel at trguys.com> wrote:
>>>>    Yes, if not spark or fuel or air, then timing.
>>>>    And per Sean, pin in distributor gear, timing gear or timing
>>> chain
>>>>  gone
>>>>    past by a few links.
>>>>    Dave
>>>>>    On 2020-05-16 4:43 p.m., Sean Korb wrote:
>>>>    Oh! Without taking the pump and cover off you can check the
>>> chain
>>>>  slack
>>>>    from the fuel pump hole.A  Reach in before the eccentric and
>>> see if
>>>>    itas loose.A  Itas going to have some play but it will feel
>>> really
>>>>    slack if the teeth have started to decay.
>>>>    On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:39 PM Sean Korb
>>> [1]<[1][1]spkorb at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>    A timing light will show how close your timing is.A  I worry
>>> the pin
>>>>  is
>>>>    sheared but binding on the shaft.A  It should still be
>>> checkable by
>>>>    sight which sounds like what you have done.A  The other thing
>>> to
>>>>  check,
>>>>    since you have a stock timing set, is the nylon gear on the
>>> cam.A
>>>>    These can crack and fall into your oil pan. A compression check
>>> can
>>>>    help verify it but if itas that far off youall hear it draw as
>>> well
>>>>  as
>>>>    compress without even having to put a gauge on it.
>>>>    Iam hoping itas just the ballast resistor but if you have stock
>>> 50
>>>>  year
>>>>    old nylon gears, put replacing them on the list.
>>>>    Sean
>>>>    On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 2:06 PM Mike Reilly
>>>>  [2]<[2][2]reillyms at live.com>
>>>>    wrote:
>>>>      A  A Hi all. I'm having a starting issue with my Pantera that
>>> has
>>>>  me
>>>>      A  A baffled.A  I've had the car since 1992 and it's never
>>> left me
>>>>      stranded.
>>>>      A  A It's been running strong and starting immediately
>>> including
>>>>      right
>>>>      A  A before this situation.A  Last weekend I started a drive
>>> with a
>>>>      planned
>>>>      A  A stop at a pet supply store near my house on my way
>>> out.A  So,
>>>>      the car
>>>>      A  A started just fine at home, warmed up a bit and then
>>> drove
>>>>      perfectly the
>>>>      A  A 1/2 mile to the pet supply store.A  I turned the car
>>> off,
>>>>      bought dog
>>>>      A  A food and then got back in to continue my drive.A  Well,
>>> the
>>>>  car
>>>>      would
>>>>      A  A not start.A  It turned over fine, the battery was
>>> strong, the
>>>>      starter
>>>>      A  A was cranking but it would not start seemly like it
>>> couldn't
>>>>  get
>>>>      a
>>>>      A  A spark.A  I pulled the air cleaner and could see that it
>>> was
>>>>      getting fuel
>>>>      A  A as the fuel would squirt in the carb when I gave it
>>> throttle.A
>>>>      I
>>>>      A  A thought I may have flooded it so I let it sit 15-20 mins
>>> and
>>>>      tried
>>>>      A  A again.A  Same issue.A  I pulled the driver side rear
>>> most plug
>>>>      wire and
>>>>      A  A hooked up my spark tester.A  It showed spark just
>>> fine.A  I
>>>>  let
>>>>      it sit
>>>>      A  A for an hour.A  Same issue.A  It cranked fine, would
>>> sound like
>>>>      it wanted
>>>>      A  A to fire but would not.A  Even when I floored the gas
>>> pedal
>>>>      while
>>>>      A  A cranking it (like for a flooded engine) it would rev up
>>> very
>>>>      high like
>>>>      A  A it was running but would not catch to keep running.A  I
>>> then
>>>>      pulled all
>>>>      A  A the plugs and cleaned them with parts cleaner I had with
>>> me.A
>>>>      They
>>>>      A  A looked dry but black indicating they were carbon fouled
>>> which
>>>>      was
>>>>      A  A probably from me trying to start it over and over
>>> creating a
>>>>      rich
>>>>      A  A condition.A  So I ended up getting it towed the 1/2 mile
>>> back
>>>>      to my
>>>>      A  A house on a flatbed.A  : (A  The next day when home I did
>>> the
>>>>      following
>>>>      A  A (stats on my car listed at bottom of mail):
>>>>      A  A  A * Checked fuel coming into the carb.A  It was fine
>>>>      A  A  A * Changed to all new spark plugs. I checked for spark
>>> and
>>>>  it
>>>>      was
>>>>      A  A  A  A getting spark at the plug just fine.A  I gapped
>>> the new
>>>>      plugs at
>>>>      A  A  A  A .054 based on research on this forum and other
>>> Ford
>>>>      sources for a
>>>>      A  A  A  A 1974 351c in stock condition with an electronic
>>>>      ignition.A  The one
>>>>      A  A  A  A I tested showed good strong spark.
>>>>      A  A  A * Pulled distributor cap and it looked fine as did
>>> the
>>>>      rotor.A  They
>>>>      A  A  A  A are both about a year old.
>>>>      A  A  A * Turned rotor to see if it spun freely (e.g. roll
>>> pin may
>>>>      have
>>>>      A  A  A  A sheared).A  Rotor would not turn by hand so I
>>> assume it
>>>>      was still
>>>>      A  A  A  A connected through the shear pin (did check it
>>> later
>>>>      though)
>>>>      A  A  A * Changed carburetor to the new Summit Racing carb I
>>> had
>>>>      recently
>>>>      A  A  A  A purchased since I did notice my really old Holley
>>> 600
>>>>  was
>>>>      leaking
>>>>      A  A  A  A fuel at the base plate area.A  However it was
>>> running
>>>>      fine and
>>>>      A  A  A  A strong before I pulled it but it may have been
>>> running
>>>>      rich based
>>>>      A  A  A  A on reading the plugs. The new carb had fuel
>>> squirting so
>>>>      looked
>>>>      A  A  A  A good.A  Figured since I had spark, that maybe
>>> there was
>>>>      some issue
>>>>      A  A  A  A with the Holley.A  Same symptoms with the new
>>>>      carb....didn't start
>>>>      A  A  A  A in the same manner.
>>>>      A  A  A * Pulled front engine cover to check static timing.A
>>>>      Cranked the
>>>>      A  A  A  A engine by hand via the crank pulley and moved it
>>> to show
>>>>      the timing
>>>>      A  A  A  A mark (16 deg BTDC) on the timing marker that I had
>>> set
>>>>      last year.
>>>>      A  A  A  A The distributor rotor moved just fine to point to
>>> the #1
>>>>      sparkplug
>>>>      A  A  A  A wire location at this timing.A  This tells me that
>>> the
>>>>      distributor
>>>>      A  A  A  A shear pin was probably fine and the timing chain
>>> is
>>>>  still
>>>>      keeping
>>>>      A  A  A  A things lined up
>>>>      A  A  A * Still had the same issue of not starting with the
>>> same
>>>>      symptoms
>>>>      A  A  A * Pulled the distributor to check to see if the roll
>>> pin
>>>>      sheared or
>>>>      A  A  A  A partially sheared.A  It looked perfectly fine.A  I
>>> did
>>>>      notice the
>>>>      A  A  A  A inside of the distributor where the magnetic
>>> signal is
>>>>      captured and
>>>>      A  A  A  A the metal wheel that rotates with the rotor to
>>> align to
>>>>      the sender
>>>>      A  A  A  A from the ignition box was had some light surface
>>> rust.A
>>>>      But since I
>>>>      A  A  A  A had spark at the plugs it must still be working
>>> fine.A
>>>>  I
>>>>      cleaned it
>>>>      A  A  A  A up anyway while I had it out
>>>>      A  A Stats on my Pantera:
>>>>      A  A  A * Late model 74
>>>>      A  A  A * Stock basic 1974 engine with 32K miles and never
>>> rebuilt
>>>>      A  A  A * Stock oil pump and fuel pump
>>>>      A  A  A * Edelbrock performer aluminum intake manifold
>>> installed
>>>>      nearly 30
>>>>      A  A  A  A years ago
>>>>      A  A  A * 600 CFM Summit Carb with electric choke and vacuum
>>>>      secondary (same
>>>>      A  A  A  A as the Holley set up I just took off)
>>>>      A  A  A * Duraspark 2 electronic ignition/distributor (bought
>>> from
>>>>      Hall in
>>>>      A  A  A  A 1993). Mine has the green plastic colored wire
>>> support
>>>>      coming from
>>>>      A  A  A  A the control box.A  I wonder if this has failed?
>>>>      A  A  A * New MSD coil (not the oil can type).A  Bought this
>>> about
>>>>  4
>>>>      months
>>>>      A  A  A  A ago and it was working great.A  This is MSD, P/N:
>>> 8207
>>>>      that is one
>>>>      A  A  A  A of the coils Jon Haas (Pantera Electronics)
>>> recommends
>>>>      for his
>>>>      A  A  A  A system.A  I did have a oil filled coil fail in the
>>> past
>>>>      and that was
>>>>      A  A  A  A easy to diagnose and replace.A  This new MSD coil
>>> made
>>>>      the engine
>>>>      A  A  A  A really run nice!
>>>>      A  A  A * Stock starter which cranks just fine
>>>>      A  A  A * New battery (about one year old) which is strong,
>>> charged
>>>>      and
>>>>      A  A  A  A cranks fine
>>>>      A  A  A * Standard stock grounds throughout the car. I did
>>> clean up
>>>>      the
>>>>      A  A  A  A braided ground by the end of the transaxle as part
>>> of
>>>>      general
>>>>      A  A  A  A maintenance a few years ago
>>>>      A  A So I've been going through the normal FASTEC approach.A
>>> Fuel,
>>>>      Air,
>>>>      A  A Spark, Timing, Exhaust, Compression.A  It has fuel, air,
>>>>  spark,
>>>>      and
>>>>      A  A timing.A  Compression hasn't been checked yet but it's a
>>> low
>>>>      mile engine
>>>>      A  A which was running super strong.A  I think a compression
>>> issue
>>>>      would have
>>>>      A  A shown up with some symptoms rather than running great
>>> one
>>>>      minute and
>>>>      A  A not starting the next.A  As far as exhaust that is
>>> working and
>>>>      not
>>>>      A  A clogged up in anyway.A  I'm at a loss here as to what it
>>> could
>>>>      be and
>>>>      A  A why it ran great one minute and wouldn't start the
>>> next.A
>>>>  Next
>>>>      I'm
>>>>      A  A thinking the Duraspark 2 box may have failed.A  Not sure
>>> if
>>>>      those fail
>>>>      A  A in a mode where you get spark at the plug but the timing
>>> of
>>>>  the
>>>>      spark
>>>>      A  A is off due to the box failing? Any suggestions are
>>>>  appreciated.
>>>>      A  A Thanks, Mike
>>>>      A  A P.S.A  I will post this on the Forum as well to get
>>> additional
>>>>      input.A  I
>>>>      A  A really want to get driving again : )
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>>>>    6.
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>>  2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%
>>  7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sda
>>  ta=D3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    7. [15]mailto:[15]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    8.
>>  [16][16]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%25
>>  2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%
>>  7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sda
>>  ta=D3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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>>>>
>>  [18][18]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%25
>>  2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7
>>  C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa
>>  aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2Bu
>>  iqBzJ46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>> etc.)
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>>>>  Dave Londry
>>>>  TRGuys.com
>>>>  [19][19]davel at trguys.com
>>>>  Cell    604-721-2278
>>>>  Landline 604-589-9183
>>>>  Skype    embeddedspaces
>>>>  References
>>>>    1. mailto:[1][20]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    2. mailto:[2][21]reillyms at live.com
>>>>    3. mailto:3][22]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>    4.
>>  [23]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
>>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    5. mailto:5][24]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    6.
>>  [25]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
>>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    7. mailto:7][26]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    8.
>>  [27]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
>>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    9. mailto:[28]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    10. mailto:[29]reillyms at live.com
>>>>    11. mailto:[30]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>    12.
>>>
>>  [31]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
>>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    13. mailto:[32]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    14.
>>  [33]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
>>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    15. mailto:[34]spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>    16.
>>  [35]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
>>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    17. mailto:[36]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>    18.
>>>
>>  [37]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
>>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
>>>>    19. mailto:[38]davel at trguys.com
>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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>>>>  [39]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>
>>  [40]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>> etc.)
>>>>  use the links above.
>>>>  Members who post to this list grant license to the list to
>>> forward any
>>>>  message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
>>> the
>>>>  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
>>> archive
>>>>  or approve the archiving of list messages.
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>  1. [6]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>  2. [7]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>>>  3. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>  4.
>>  [9]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fser
>>  ver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7
>>  C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
>>  %7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9E
>>  UJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  5. [10]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>  6.
>>  [11]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  7. [12]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>>  8.
>>  [13]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>>  9. [14]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 10. [15]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>>> 11. [16]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 12.
>>  [17]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 13. [18]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 14.
>>  [19]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 15. [20]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 16.
>>  [21]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 17. [22]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 18.
>>  [23]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 19. [24]mailto:davel at trguys.com
>>>> 20. [25]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 21. [26]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>>> 22. [27]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 23.
>>  [28]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 24. [29]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 25.
>>  [30]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 26. [31]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 27.
>>  [32]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 28. [33]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 29. [34]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>>> 30. [35]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 31.
>>  [36]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 32. [37]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 33.
>>  [38]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 34. [39]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>>> 35.
>>  [40]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
>>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 36. [41]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 37.
>>  [42]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 38. [43]mailto:davel at trguys.com
>>>> 39. [44]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> 40.
>>  [45]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
>>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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>>>>
>>  [46]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
>>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
>>  etc.)
>>> use the links above.
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>>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
>>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
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>>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
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>>> or approve the archiving of list messages.
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>>> References
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>>> 1.
>>  [6]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvi
>>  meo.com%2Fuser54794798%2Freview%2F419467000%2F7ef023747b&data=02%7C
>>  01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
>>  aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=Oj1kTAkq%2FRb70Pj9vkvryab91
>>  k4Z7R3ywcPwnJMB%2FBg%3D&reserved=0
>>> 2. [7]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 3. [8]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 4.
>>  [9]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw7t
>>  sc.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df
>>  9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=Teh
>>  CDwXVWFOiWfzwCZhGouPVFEQWsJZQX03PwfjPd6g%3D&reserved=0
>>> 5.
>>  [10]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
>>  w.teampanteraracing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008
>>  d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063
>>  475&sdata=dPH7iV1rXYjoNny1UzrreVxaW4cyO98BRSqfzrgBJAw%3D&reserv
>>  ed=0
>>> 6. [11]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>> 7. [12]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>> 8. [13]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 9.
>>  [14]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
>>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
>>> 10. [15]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>> 11.
>>  [16]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
>>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
>>> 12. [17]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>> 13.
>>  [18]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
>>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
>>> 14. [19]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>> 15. [20]mailto:reillyms at live.com
>>> 16. [21]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> 17.
>>  [22]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
>>  rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
>>  7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
>>  a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
>>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
>>> 18. [23]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>>> 19.
>>  [24]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
>>  korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
>>  df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
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   Mike, your diagnosis was correct!  Your method to test was spot on and
   the car fired right up when I held the ignition switch in the start
   position and used the remote starter to start it up.  Thanks again to
   you and everyone who offered great troubleshooting suggestions.


   Luckily I bought a brand new ignition switch 20 years ago at the San
   Diego swap meet when I live down there.  Now I at least know the
   culprit to my problem and can make the swap.


   I may try to rebuild the old switch based on the instructions I saw on
   Panteraplace. Com


   Much happy now and ready to get on the road again.  I know the world
   currently has larger problems than Panteras not starting but this car
   has always been a stress release for me and now I need it more than
   ever : )   Thanks again everyone!  What a great community : )  Regards,
   Mike Reilly


   From: [1]Mike Reilly
   Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:03 AM
   To: [2]Mike Drew
   Cc: [3]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good
   timing etc. Baffled and need Advice


   Mike, I have the original starter so your updated test is what I'll
   try.  I first need to obtain a remote starter.  On the Forum Rocky had
   a good suggestion.  Pasted below for all to see.  I plan to try this as
   well.  My Pantera is #7366 (Late 74) and it never had a ballast
   resistor but instead a light blue "resistance wire" which in 1993 when
   I installed the Duraspark system was told to disconnect as the
   Duraspark didn't need it.  When it was connected it was acting like a
   rev limiter.  When removed the car ran great from 1993 until now so I
   don't think that's the issue.  I plan to pursue the ignition switch
   first and then the duraspark box next.  I think my coil if fine as I
   get a good spark.  Thanks, Mike
   From Rocky:
   "A picture is worth a thousand words.
   This schematic has been around for a while (He attached the Duraspark 2
   wiring diagram in case the image doesn't come through in the server
   mail).
   Anyway - According to this, you should be able to just unplug the two
   wire connector from the Duraspark Box and check the connections at the
   Harness Side (not the Duraspark Module).
   Check #1:  The red wire should be "hot" when you have the ignition in
   the "RUN" position.
   Check #2:  The white wire should be "hot" when you are cranking the
   engine.  According to what I read - the white wire is the Ignition
   Retard for ease of cranking.
   OOPS - this schematic shows a ballast resistor!"
   [cid:image001.png at 01D62C29.012E2150]
   From: Mike Drew<[4]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 10:32 PM
   To: Mike Reilly<[5]mailto:reillyms at live.com>
   Cc:
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
   m>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark, good
   timing etc. Baffled and need Advice
   Mike,
   I think my test advice below will only work if you have a modern
   starter with a built-in solenoid, that you can unplug at the starter.
   If you use the stock solenoid, and you unplug the wire from the switch
   to the solenoid, you can't test to see if it will power the ignition.
   What you would have to do is unplug the red wire that is coming from
   the switch, and unplug the orange wire going from the other side of the
   solenoid to the ignition system, and hook them together, bypassing the
   solenoid entirely. That way, when you turn the key to the `run'
   position, it powers the ignition only. And your remote starter would
   power the starter only.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On May 16, 2020, at 22:08, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
   >
   >
   >
   >> On May 16, 2020, at 21:53, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
   >>
   >>    Sorry. Try this link:
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   >>
   >>  Yeah, damn electrons!  Yes, to clarify it will just crank and crank
   and
   >>  never seem to catch and start.  Sorry for the confusion.
   >>
   >>>> That statement directly contradicts the video. The video clearly
   shows the car starting and running until the ignition key is released.
   Classic burned out switch symptom.
   >>
   >>> I didn't plan to swap the ignition switch yet but to test that the
   >>  wires were getting and sending juice in both the "start" and "on"
   >>  mode.  I also agree that I may just need to start replacing things
   >>  electronic if all testing fails.  My ignition system (the whole
   >>  Duraspark) is old as I bought it from Hall in 1993!
   >
   >>>> Well, the motor runs when the ignition switch is powering it, in
   the start position. That eliminates everything downstream of the switch
   as a culprit. If you had a Duraspark problem I imagine it would just
   crank and crank and never fire at all.
   >>
   >>
   >>> I probably also need to get a remote starter switch as my current
   >>  "remote starter" e.g. my wife is losing interest : (
   >>
   >>>> With a remote starter and the key on, the car will probably crank
   and crank and not ever fire.
   >
   > Try this:
   >
   > Disconnect the wire from the key on the starter solenoid. Now when
   you turn the key to start, the starter doesn't do anything. Hook your
   remote starter up to the solenoid instead. When you pull the trigger
   with the key off, the car will turn over as the starter operates, but
   the car won't run.
   >
   > Try again with the key in the `run' position. Probably the same
   result.
   >
   > THEN, try again with the key HELD in the spring-loaded `start'
   position. The key won't activate the starter because the wire is
   disconnected. But with the key held in the start position, that
   alternate ignition source will power the ignition system, and then you
   will probably be able to start the car with your remote starter. It
   should run until the key is released back to `run' at which point it
   will quit.
   >
   > That will confirm the diagnosis.....
   >
   > Mike
   >>
   >>  Thanks, Mike R.
   >>
   >>
   >>  From: [2]Mike Drew
   >>  Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:40 PM
   >>  To: [3]Mike Reilly
   >>  Cc: [4]Asa Jay Laughton; [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark,
   good
   >>  timing etc. Baffled and need Advice
   >>
   >>
   >>  Mike,
   >>  Clearly you and electrons aren't getting along at the moment!
   >>  Your video link doesn't work (at least not for me).
   >>  Can you be much more specific about what your car actually does?
   You
   >>  say it "won't start" But is that actually true?  Does it just crank
   and
   >>  crank and crank? Or is the problem that it will start but won't
   run?
   >>  That's what most of us seem to believe now.
   >>  Don't change the whole ignition switch if you don't have to. Those
   >>  switches are relatively rare and precious. You have an electrical
   >>  problem. Change the electrical portion only, if necessary. If you
   don't
   >>  want to buy a new electrical portion, swap it over from your extra
   >>  switch assembly.
   >>  Mike
   >>  Sent from my iPad
   >>>> On May 16, 2020, at 21:27, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>  Thanks for the thoughts everyone.  Now that I have verified that
   >>  the
   >>> distributor pin is there and in good shape I reinstalled the
   >>> distributor.  Checked timing and still would not start.  Here is a
   >>> video of me trying to start it before my first post.  I tried no
   >>> throttle, two pumps on the throttle and then holding the throttle
   >>  to
   >>> the floor.
   >>>
   >>
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   >>>
   >>> Next I will check out the ignition switch.  I do have a spare if I
   >>  need
   >>> it which I bought probably 20 years ago at the San Diego swap meet
   >>  when
   >>> I lived there.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> One thing I had thought I listed in my initial email but seemed to
   >>  have
   >>> forgotten to add was that a month or so ago I was driving down a 40
   >>  MPH
   >>> side street and the car just died.  I had to coast to a safe
   >>  parking
   >>> lot.  When I stopped it did restart and drove with no problem.
   >>  Maybe
   >>> this points to the ignition switch as well.  Sorry I left that out
   >>  : (
   >>> We also had an internet outage for the past three days so I was
   >>> composing mail on a small mobile device with spotty connections.
   >>> Internet is back up but now I need to get the Pantera back in
   >>> commission.  Thanks, Mike R.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> From: [2]Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
   >>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:02 PM
   >>> To: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Won't Start but has fuel, spark,
   >>  good
   >>> timing etc. Baffled and need Advice
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Sounds more like it could be the column switch.
   >>> My initial thought was the timing gear, nylon, old, breaks off,
   >>  lets
   >>> the
   >>> chain jump a few teeth. Ask me how I know.
   >>> Soooo... when that happened to -me-, the engine cranked over very
   >>> -smoothly- with no backfires in the carb and none out the exhaust,
   >>  it
   >>> just wouldn't start.  It wouldn't even catch.  But boy it turned
   >>  over
   >>> real smooth, like a Singer sewing machine.
   >>> Since this one sounds like it catches but doesn't stay running, I'd
   >>> lean
   >>> toward the ignition switch.
   >>> By the way, I was able to see my cam gear had broken nylon by
   >>  looking
   >>> through the distributor hole.  Not easy to do, but that's what
   >>  showed
   >>> me
   >>> the nylon was gone.
   >>> Asa  Jay
   >>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   >>> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
   >>> ******************************
   >>>
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   >>>>> On 5/16/2020 19:05, B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
   >>>>  How far off does the timing have to be before you no longer get
   >>> any
   >>>>  backfire while cranking ? I may be confused again, but it seems
   >>> he has
   >>>>  spark while cranking, thus cam is turning so should have air,
   >>> gas
   >>>>  squirts at carburetor. So if gas at cylinder and spark at
   >>> cylinder,
   >>>>  shouldn't you get some type of back fire?
   >>>>  Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
   >>> not be
   >>>>  ! )
   >>>>
   >>>>  On Saturday, May 16, 2020, 8:51:28 PM CDT, Dave Londry
   >>>>  <davel at trguys.com> wrote:
   >>>>    Yes, if not spark or fuel or air, then timing.
   >>>>    And per Sean, pin in distributor gear, timing gear or timing
   >>> chain
   >>>>  gone
   >>>>    past by a few links.
   >>>>    Dave
   >>>>>    On 2020-05-16 4:43 p.m., Sean Korb wrote:
   >>>>    Oh! Without taking the pump and cover off you can check the
   >>> chain
   >>>>  slack
   >>>>    from the fuel pump hole.A  Reach in before the eccentric and
   >>> see if
   >>>>    itas loose.A  Itas going to have some play but it will feel
   >>> really
   >>>>    slack if the teeth have started to decay.
   >>>>    On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:39 PM Sean Korb
   >>> [1]<[1][1]spkorb at gmail.com>
   >>>>  wrote:
   >>>>    A timing light will show how close your timing is.A  I worry
   >>> the pin
   >>>>  is
   >>>>    sheared but binding on the shaft.A  It should still be
   >>> checkable by
   >>>>    sight which sounds like what you have done.A  The other thing
   >>> to
   >>>>  check,
   >>>>    since you have a stock timing set, is the nylon gear on the
   >>> cam.A
   >>>>    These can crack and fall into your oil pan. A compression check
   >>> can
   >>>>    help verify it but if itas that far off youall hear it draw as
   >>> well
   >>>>  as
   >>>>    compress without even having to put a gauge on it.
   >>>>    Iam hoping itas just the ballast resistor but if you have stock
   >>> 50
   >>>>  year
   >>>>    old nylon gears, put replacing them on the list.
   >>>>    Sean
   >>>>    On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 2:06 PM Mike Reilly
   >>>>  [2]<[2][2]reillyms at live.com>
   >>>>    wrote:
   >>>>      A  A Hi all. I'm having a starting issue with my Pantera that
   >>> has
   >>>>  me
   >>>>      A  A baffled.A  I've had the car since 1992 and it's never
   >>> left me
   >>>>      stranded.
   >>>>      A  A It's been running strong and starting immediately
   >>> including
   >>>>      right
   >>>>      A  A before this situation.A  Last weekend I started a drive
   >>> with a
   >>>>      planned
   >>>>      A  A stop at a pet supply store near my house on my way
   >>> out.A  So,
   >>>>      the car
   >>>>      A  A started just fine at home, warmed up a bit and then
   >>> drove
   >>>>      perfectly the
   >>>>      A  A 1/2 mile to the pet supply store.A  I turned the car
   >>> off,
   >>>>      bought dog
   >>>>      A  A food and then got back in to continue my drive.A  Well,
   >>> the
   >>>>  car
   >>>>      would
   >>>>      A  A not start.A  It turned over fine, the battery was
   >>> strong, the
   >>>>      starter
   >>>>      A  A was cranking but it would not start seemly like it
   >>> couldn't
   >>>>  get
   >>>>      a
   >>>>      A  A spark.A  I pulled the air cleaner and could see that it
   >>> was
   >>>>      getting fuel
   >>>>      A  A as the fuel would squirt in the carb when I gave it
   >>> throttle.A
   >>>>      I
   >>>>      A  A thought I may have flooded it so I let it sit 15-20 mins
   >>> and
   >>>>      tried
   >>>>      A  A again.A  Same issue.A  I pulled the driver side rear
   >>> most plug
   >>>>      wire and
   >>>>      A  A hooked up my spark tester.A  It showed spark just
   >>> fine.A  I
   >>>>  let
   >>>>      it sit
   >>>>      A  A for an hour.A  Same issue.A  It cranked fine, would
   >>> sound like
   >>>>      it wanted
   >>>>      A  A to fire but would not.A  Even when I floored the gas
   >>> pedal
   >>>>      while
   >>>>      A  A cranking it (like for a flooded engine) it would rev up
   >>> very
   >>>>      high like
   >>>>      A  A it was running but would not catch to keep running.A  I
   >>> then
   >>>>      pulled all
   >>>>      A  A the plugs and cleaned them with parts cleaner I had with
   >>> me.A
   >>>>      They
   >>>>      A  A looked dry but black indicating they were carbon fouled
   >>> which
   >>>>      was
   >>>>      A  A probably from me trying to start it over and over
   >>> creating a
   >>>>      rich
   >>>>      A  A condition.A  So I ended up getting it towed the 1/2 mile
   >>> back
   >>>>      to my
   >>>>      A  A house on a flatbed.A  : (A  The next day when home I did
   >>> the
   >>>>      following
   >>>>      A  A (stats on my car listed at bottom of mail):
   >>>>      A  A  A * Checked fuel coming into the carb.A  It was fine
   >>>>      A  A  A * Changed to all new spark plugs. I checked for spark
   >>> and
   >>>>  it
   >>>>      was
   >>>>      A  A  A  A getting spark at the plug just fine.A  I gapped
   >>> the new
   >>>>      plugs at
   >>>>      A  A  A  A .054 based on research on this forum and other
   >>> Ford
   >>>>      sources for a
   >>>>      A  A  A  A 1974 351c in stock condition with an electronic
   >>>>      ignition.A  The one
   >>>>      A  A  A  A I tested showed good strong spark.
   >>>>      A  A  A * Pulled distributor cap and it looked fine as did
   >>> the
   >>>>      rotor.A  They
   >>>>      A  A  A  A are both about a year old.
   >>>>      A  A  A * Turned rotor to see if it spun freely (e.g. roll
   >>> pin may
   >>>>      have
   >>>>      A  A  A  A sheared).A  Rotor would not turn by hand so I
   >>> assume it
   >>>>      was still
   >>>>      A  A  A  A connected through the shear pin (did check it
   >>> later
   >>>>      though)
   >>>>      A  A  A * Changed carburetor to the new Summit Racing carb I
   >>> had
   >>>>      recently
   >>>>      A  A  A  A purchased since I did notice my really old Holley
   >>> 600
   >>>>  was
   >>>>      leaking
   >>>>      A  A  A  A fuel at the base plate area.A  However it was
   >>> running
   >>>>      fine and
   >>>>      A  A  A  A strong before I pulled it but it may have been
   >>> running
   >>>>      rich based
   >>>>      A  A  A  A on reading the plugs. The new carb had fuel
   >>> squirting so
   >>>>      looked
   >>>>      A  A  A  A good.A  Figured since I had spark, that maybe
   >>> there was
   >>>>      some issue
   >>>>      A  A  A  A with the Holley.A  Same symptoms with the new
   >>>>      carb....didn't start
   >>>>      A  A  A  A in the same manner.
   >>>>      A  A  A * Pulled front engine cover to check static timing.A
   >>>>      Cranked the
   >>>>      A  A  A  A engine by hand via the crank pulley and moved it
   >>> to show
   >>>>      the timing
   >>>>      A  A  A  A mark (16 deg BTDC) on the timing marker that I had
   >>> set
   >>>>      last year.
   >>>>      A  A  A  A The distributor rotor moved just fine to point to
   >>> the #1
   >>>>      sparkplug
   >>>>      A  A  A  A wire location at this timing.A  This tells me that
   >>> the
   >>>>      distributor
   >>>>      A  A  A  A shear pin was probably fine and the timing chain
   >>> is
   >>>>  still
   >>>>      keeping
   >>>>      A  A  A  A things lined up
   >>>>      A  A  A * Still had the same issue of not starting with the
   >>> same
   >>>>      symptoms
   >>>>      A  A  A * Pulled the distributor to check to see if the roll
   >>> pin
   >>>>      sheared or
   >>>>      A  A  A  A partially sheared.A  It looked perfectly fine.A  I
   >>> did
   >>>>      notice the
   >>>>      A  A  A  A inside of the distributor where the magnetic
   >>> signal is
   >>>>      captured and
   >>>>      A  A  A  A the metal wheel that rotates with the rotor to
   >>> align to
   >>>>      the sender
   >>>>      A  A  A  A from the ignition box was had some light surface
   >>> rust.A
   >>>>      But since I
   >>>>      A  A  A  A had spark at the plugs it must still be working
   >>> fine.A
   >>>>  I
   >>>>      cleaned it
   >>>>      A  A  A  A up anyway while I had it out
   >>>>      A  A Stats on my Pantera:
   >>>>      A  A  A * Late model 74
   >>>>      A  A  A * Stock basic 1974 engine with 32K miles and never
   >>> rebuilt
   >>>>      A  A  A * Stock oil pump and fuel pump
   >>>>      A  A  A * Edelbrock performer aluminum intake manifold
   >>> installed
   >>>>      nearly 30
   >>>>      A  A  A  A years ago
   >>>>      A  A  A * 600 CFM Summit Carb with electric choke and vacuum
   >>>>      secondary (same
   >>>>      A  A  A  A as the Holley set up I just took off)
   >>>>      A  A  A * Duraspark 2 electronic ignition/distributor (bought
   >>> from
   >>>>      Hall in
   >>>>      A  A  A  A 1993). Mine has the green plastic colored wire
   >>> support
   >>>>      coming from
   >>>>      A  A  A  A the control box.A  I wonder if this has failed?
   >>>>      A  A  A * New MSD coil (not the oil can type).A  Bought this
   >>> about
   >>>>  4
   >>>>      months
   >>>>      A  A  A  A ago and it was working great.A  This is MSD, P/N:
   >>> 8207
   >>>>      that is one
   >>>>      A  A  A  A of the coils Jon Haas (Pantera Electronics)
   >>> recommends
   >>>>      for his
   >>>>      A  A  A  A system.A  I did have a oil filled coil fail in the
   >>> past
   >>>>      and that was
   >>>>      A  A  A  A easy to diagnose and replace.A  This new MSD coil
   >>> made
   >>>>      the engine
   >>>>      A  A  A  A really run nice!
   >>>>      A  A  A * Stock starter which cranks just fine
   >>>>      A  A  A * New battery (about one year old) which is strong,
   >>> charged
   >>>>      and
   >>>>      A  A  A  A cranks fine
   >>>>      A  A  A * Standard stock grounds throughout the car. I did
   >>> clean up
   >>>>      the
   >>>>      A  A  A  A braided ground by the end of the transaxle as part
   >>> of
   >>>>      general
   >>>>      A  A  A  A maintenance a few years ago
   >>>>      A  A So I've been going through the normal FASTEC approach.A
   >>> Fuel,
   >>>>      Air,
   >>>>      A  A Spark, Timing, Exhaust, Compression.A  It has fuel, air,
   >>>>  spark,
   >>>>      and
   >>>>      A  A timing.A  Compression hasn't been checked yet but it's a
   >>> low
   >>>>      mile engine
   >>>>      A  A which was running super strong.A  I think a compression
   >>> issue
   >>>>      would have
   >>>>      A  A shown up with some symptoms rather than running great
   >>> one
   >>>>      minute and
   >>>>      A  A not starting the next.A  As far as exhaust that is
   >>> working and
   >>>>      not
   >>>>      A  A clogged up in anyway.A  I'm at a loss here as to what it
   >>> could
   >>>>      be and
   >>>>      A  A why it ran great one minute and wouldn't start the
   >>> next.A
   >>>>  Next
   >>>>      I'm
   >>>>      A  A thinking the Duraspark 2 box may have failed.A  Not sure
   >>> if
   >>>>      those fail
   >>>>      A  A in a mode where you get spark at the plug but the timing
   >>> of
   >>>>  the
   >>>>      spark
   >>>>      A  A is off due to the box failing? Any suggestions are
   >>>>  appreciated.
   >>>>      A  A Thanks, Mike
   >>>>      A  A P.S.A  I will post this on the Forum as well to get
   >>> additional
   >>>>      input.A  I
   >>>>      A  A really want to get driving again : )
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   >>
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   >>  ta=D3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  _______________________________________________
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   >>>>  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   >>>>  DeTomaso mailing list
   >>>>  [17][17]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>
   >>
   [18][18]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%
   25
   >>
   2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7
   >>
   C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa
   >>
   aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2Bu
   >>  iqBzJ46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
   >>> etc.)
   >>>>  use the li
   >>>>  nks above.
   >>>>  Members who post to this list grant license to the list to
   >>> forward any
   >>>>  message p
   >>>>  osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list.
   >>> They
   >>>>  also grant
   >>>>  the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the
   >>>>  archiving of lis
   >>>>  t messages.
   >>>>  --
   >>>>  Dave Londry
   >>>>  TRGuys.com
   >>>>  [19][19]davel at trguys.com
   >>>>  Cell    604-721-2278
   >>>>  Landline 604-589-9183
   >>>>  Skype    embeddedspaces
   >>>>  References
   >>>>    1. mailto:[1][20]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    2. mailto:[2][21]reillyms at live.com
   >>>>    3. mailto:3][22]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>    4.
   >>
   [23]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
   >>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    5. mailto:5][24]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    6.
   >>
   [25]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
   >>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    7. mailto:7][26]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    8.
   >>
   [27]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
   >>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    9. mailto:[28]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    10. mailto:[29]reillyms at live.com
   >>>>    11. mailto:[30]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>    12.
   >>>
   >>
   [31]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
   >>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    13. mailto:[32]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    14.
   >>
   [33]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
   >>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    15. mailto:[34]spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>    16.
   >>
   [35]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=D
   >>  3JPrYvuiFdv5b6Nb5Bi7WLPnSBk5YRW%2BTrrwlRG8Gg%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    17. mailto:[36]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>    18.
   >>>
   >>
   [37]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080053481&sdata=iIX3A8nCskjTbQ7QIG1iuh%2BuiqBz
   >>  J46nvlVdged4M6M%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>    19. mailto:[38]davel at trguys.com
   >>>>  _______________________________________________
   >>>>  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   >>>>  Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   >>>>  DeTomaso mailing list
   >>>>  [39]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>
   >>
   [40]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
   >>> etc.)
   >>>>  use the links above.
   >>>>  Members who post to this list grant license to the list to
   >>> forward any
   >>>>  message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
   >>> the
   >>>>  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
   >>> archive
   >>>>  or approve the archiving of list messages.
   >>>>
   >>>> References
   >>>>
   >>>>  1. [6]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>  2. [7]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>>>  3. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>  4.
   >>
   [9]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fser
   >>
   ver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7
   >>
   C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   %7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9E
   >>  UJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  5. [10]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>  6.
   >>
   [11]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  7. [12]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>>  8.
   >>
   [13]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>  9. [14]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 10. [15]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>>> 11. [16]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 12.
   >>
   [17]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 13. [18]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 14.
   >>
   [19]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 15. [20]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 16.
   >>
   [21]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 17. [22]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 18.
   >>
   [23]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 19. [24]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >>>> 20. [25]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 21. [26]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>>> 22. [27]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 23.
   >>
   [28]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 24. [29]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 25.
   >>
   [30]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 26. [31]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 27.
   >>
   [32]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 28. [33]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 29. [34]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>>> 30. [35]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 31.
   >>
   [36]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 32. [37]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 33.
   >>
   [38]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 34. [39]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>>> 35.
   >>
   [40]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=j
   >>  8QAwnStOmRm3xVdmyL0IrFIn2jgPe0DMTJ7dv3yZeQ%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 36. [41]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 37.
   >>
   [42]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>> 38. [43]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >>>> 39. [44]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>> 40.
   >>
   [45]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> _______________________________________________
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   >>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   >>>> DeTomaso mailing list
   >>>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>>
   >>
   [46]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=4QhJlRq%2BCmiVgkPbLAZdaxbspwn9
   >>  EUJ2EwetN29%2FQOc%3D&reserved=0
   >>>>
   >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
   >>  etc.)
   >>> use the links above.
   >>>>
   >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
   >>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
   >>  the
   >>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
   >>  archive
   >>> or approve the archiving of list messages.
   >>>
   >>> References
   >>>
   >>> 1.
   >>
   [6]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvi
   >>
   meo.com%2Fuser54794798%2Freview%2F419467000%2F7ef023747b&data=02%7C
   >>
   01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa
   >>
   aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=Oj1kTAkq%2FRb70Pj9vkvryab91
   >>  k4Z7R3ywcPwnJMB%2FBg%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 2. [7]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 3. [8]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 4.
   >>
   [9]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw7t
   >>
   sc.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df
   >>
   9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063475&sdata=Teh
   >>  CDwXVWFOiWfzwCZhGouPVFEQWsJZQX03PwfjPd6g%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 5.
   >>
   [10]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
   >>
   w.teampanteraracing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008
   >>
   d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080063
   >>
   475&sdata=dPH7iV1rXYjoNny1UzrreVxaW4cyO98BRSqfzrgBJAw%3D&reserv
   >>  ed=0
   >>> 6. [11]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 7. [12]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>> 8. [13]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 9.
   >>
   [14]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 10. [15]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 11.
   >>
   [16]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 12. [17]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 13.
   >>
   [18]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 14. [19]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 15. [20]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>> 16. [21]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 17.
   >>
   [22]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 18. [23]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 19.
   >>
   [24]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 20. [25]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 21.
   >>
   [26]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 22. [27]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 23.
   >>
   [28]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 24. [29]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >>> 25. [30]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 26. [31]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>> 27. [32]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 28.
   >>
   [33]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 29. [34]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 30.
   >>
   [35]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 31. [36]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 32.
   >>
   [37]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 33. [38]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 34. [39]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>> 35. [40]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 36.
   >>
   [41]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 37. [42]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 38.
   >>
   [43]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 39. [44]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >>> 40.
   >>
   [45]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   >>
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84
   >>
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=U
   >>  Lr6hkfM8TfTiGfZFgBODz%2FX1wa1lG%2Bg3EB%2FkpMZsBs%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 41. [46]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 42.
   >>
   [47]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 43. [48]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >>> 44. [49]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>> 45.
   >>
   [50]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> 46.
   >>
   [51]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>> _______________________________________________
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   >>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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   >>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>>
   >>
   [52]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   >>
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   >>
   7C%7Ced1d0531537e471717c008d7fa1c5ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   >>
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252872080073469&sdata=55NSo3xvf45m3UQSRb9k%2FQ3LpKmb
   >>  KcCIfUeq0RuTECA%3D&reserved=0
   >>>
   >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,
   etc.)
   >>  use the links above.
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   >>  list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
   archive
   >>  or approve the archiving of list messages.
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >>  1.
   [6]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvi
   meo.com%2F419467000&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23b
   a2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&amp
   ;sdata=loQGtRGuARdX%2FqVKV%2BQm%2FT6aIs5SdmHcu8%2FdMtIhaq0%3D&reser
   ved=0
   >>  2. [7]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   >>  3. [8]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >>  4. [9]mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   >>  5. [10]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>  6.
   [11]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fv
   imeo.com%2Fuser54794798%2Freview%2F419467000%2F7ef023747b&data=02%7
   C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa
   aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=r4XmgCrfi58LOichSUB2KopLK%
   2BKE2%2BF9AWXQhoNdPpg%3D&reserved=0
   >>  7. [12]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>  8. [13]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>  9.
   [14]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw7
   tsc.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84d
   f9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=kM
   iVQyuA592sAFWxuZawBnNnFDpkqDQ9OroqXvivpGA%3D&reserved=0
   >> 10.
   [15]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
   w.teampanteraracing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308
   d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948
   428&sdata=ML93YmfKwke0H4PVTX2nZ%2F6snKA3ue0%2F57IOhGeHJY8%3D&re
   served=0
   >> 11. [16]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 12. [17]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >> 13. [18]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 14.
   [19]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2
   F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
   >> 15. [20]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 16.
   [21]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u
   0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
   >> 17. [22]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 18.
   [23]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u
   0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
   >> 19. [24]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 20. [25]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >> 21. [26]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 22.
   [27]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2
   F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
   >> 23. [28]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 24.
   [29]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u
   0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
   >> 25. [30]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 26.
   [31]https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537
   >> 27. [32]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 28.
   [33]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2
   F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
   >> 29. [34]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >> 30. [35]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 31. [36]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >> 32. [37]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 33.
   [38]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=da1rCxhktnnxhtZCul0o8wFCBJVUto
   16rIXrIb1GLtg%3D&reserved=0
   >> 34. [39]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 35.
   [40]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2
   sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
   >> 36. [41]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 37.
   [42]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2
   sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
   >> 38. [43]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 39. [44]mailto:reillyms at live.com
   >> 40. [45]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 41.
   [46]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=da1rCxhktnnxhtZCul0o8wFCBJVUto
   16rIXrIb1GLtg%3D&reserved=0
   >> 42. [47]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 43.
   [48]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2
   sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
   >> 44. [49]mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
   >> 45.
   [50]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsp
   korb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84
   df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=Y
   sxwlj4%2B6n5ueRrv%2FJ9HhtAXTDXD9TaUhKRWf5wPg5U%3D&reserved=0
   >> 46. [51]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 47.
   [52]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUaf
   H5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
   >> 48. [53]mailto:davel at trguys.com
   >> 49. [54]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >> 50.
   [55]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUaf
   H5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
   >> 51.
   [56]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUaf
   H5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
   >> 52.
   [57]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUaf
   H5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
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   [58]https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fse
   rver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%
   7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaa
   a%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUaf
   H5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
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   or approve the archiving of list messages.

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   1. mailto:reillyms at live.com
   2. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   5. mailto:reillyms at live.com
   6. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F419467000&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=loQGtRGuARdX%2FqVKV%2BQm%2FT6aIs5SdmHcu8%2FdMtIhaq0%3D&reserved=0
   7. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   8. mailto:reillyms at live.com
   9. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  11. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2Fuser54794798%2Freview%2F419467000%2F7ef023747b&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=r4XmgCrfi58LOichSUB2KopLK%2BKE2%2BF9AWXQhoNdPpg%3D&reserved=0
  12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  13. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  14. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw7tsc.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=kMiVQyuA592sAFWxuZawBnNnFDpkqDQ9OroqXvivpGA%3D&reserved=0
  15. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teampanteraracing.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657948428&sdata=ML93YmfKwke0H4PVTX2nZ%2F6snKA3ue0%2F57IOhGeHJY8%3D&reserved=0
  16. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  17. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  19. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
  20. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  21. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
  22. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  23. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
  24. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  25. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  26. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  27. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
  28. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  29. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=u0nAXQ%2F3ZLc7a2ovNpaTVSkou3DGSqf1CxyMrbMQtNQ%3D&reserved=0
  30. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  31. https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced1d0531537
  32. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  33. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657958423&sdata=1zglvhXo7drTFvqFxXfBeV9dPLrp%2F6y9ygCBgPc5hOk%3D&reserved=0
  34. mailto:davel at trguys.com
  35. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  36. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  37. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  38. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=da1rCxhktnnxhtZCul0o8wFCBJVUto16rIXrIb1GLtg%3D&reserved=0
  39. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  40. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
  41. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  42. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
  43. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  44. mailto:reillyms at live.com
  45. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  46. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=da1rCxhktnnxhtZCul0o8wFCBJVUto16rIXrIb1GLtg%3D&reserved=0
  47. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  48. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657968421&sdata=2sGgXvUfzVkvMSpOaVl74r3sIG4j5aR6iub%2Fr3MI16E%3D&reserved=0
  49. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
  50. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspkorb.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=Ysxwlj4%2B6n5ueRrv%2FJ9HhtAXTDXD9TaUhKRWf5wPg5U%3D&reserved=0
  51. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  52. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUafH5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
  53. mailto:davel at trguys.com
  54. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  55. https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fserver.detomasolist.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdetomaso&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd4142d92884140db1c2308d7fa23ba2d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252903657978416&sdata=WKUX5EAELHNNyEY11IGu6Kbym6FUafH5Yty%2BcF1Aj%2Bs%3D&reserved=0
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