[DeTomaso] Working on dual MC conversion like Goran (Hemi Pantera) did, Anyone have ideas?
Will Kooiman
will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sat Mar 21 19:40:48 EDT 2020
Hi Ken,
I thought of 2 ways.
1. Use a remote reservoir. I didn¹t want to do this, mostly for
aesthetics.
2. Mount the masters 1/2² further away from the fender.
I chose option #3. Use a Wilwood compact master, and put a 1/2² dent in the
fender.
This is really easy to mock up. I did my first one with 1/4² plate from
Home Depot.
I have been using this setup for 15+ years. Granted, I haven¹t driven my
car much the past 10 years, but I drove it a lot for the first ~5 years with
this setup.
It¹s getting dark over here. I¹ll take a pic tomorrow.
Will.
From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:53 PM
To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Detomaso List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Working on dual MC conversion like Goran (Hemi
Pantera) did, Anyone have ideas?
How would you do the remote clutch MC? The Pantera pedal assembly does it
nicely, is there another cleaver way to offset the clutch MC from the pedal?
On Friday, March 20, 2020, 4:40:14 AM PDT, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the fender needs to be dented. If you use a small master, it fits
right behind a major support, so you're really only denting the sheet
metal.
Or, you can use a remote master with no denting.
Or, you can do what Goran and others have done. I have seen the Dennis
CNC Brakes setup, and it is nice.
From: Ken Green <[1]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:00 AM
To: Mike Drew <[3]mikeldrew at aol.com>, Will Kooiman
<[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Detomaso List <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Working on dual MC conversion like Goran (Hemi
Pantera) did, Anyone have ideas?
I'm reluctant to make room for the clutch MC. It looks like some of
the stiffening structure is behind the fender wall that has to be
substantially dented?
Ken
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 7:29:15 PM PDT, Will Kooiman
<[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
I have Wilwood pedals with a balance bar.
I initially made a plate from 1/4" plate mild steel. It's not that
difficult with a hole saw and a mig.
The last time I had it apart, I remade it in 6061-T6.
I'm very happy with it. I need to take it apart one more time to
polish
and clear coat it.
I am not a fabricator, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.
On 3/19/20, 10:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
<[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>Ken,
>
>Pantera Performance Center sells a bolt-in dual master setup, either
with
>or without booster.
>
>There are some things (glass, tires) one doesn't bother trying to make
>oneself. This is approaching that level IMHO.....
>
>MIKE
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 19, 2020, at 14:36, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>><[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> i>>? I did a first cut with a junk pedal assembly and am ready to
use a
>> better one. A 1 inch ID tube was welded into the pedal to attach
the
>> balance bar, and a plate sandwiched between the MCs and pedal box
>> casting to mount the dual MCs.
>> It's pretty simple and compact. If anyone is considering this, we
can
>> compare notes? I can email photos of the prototype.
>> Ken
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Hi Ken,
I thought of 2 ways.
1. Use a remote reservoir. I didn't want to do this, mostly for
aesthetics.
2. Mount the masters 1/2" further away from the fender.
I chose option #3. Use a Wilwood compact master, and put a 1/2" dent
in the fender.
This is really easy to mock up. I did my first one with 1/4" plate
from Home Depot.
I have been using this setup for 15+ years. Granted, I haven't driven
my car much the past 10 years, but I drove it a lot for the first ~5
years with this setup.
It's getting dark over here. I'll take a pic tomorrow.
Will.
From: Ken Green <[1]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:53 PM
To: Will Kooiman <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Detomaso List <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Working on dual MC conversion like Goran (Hemi
Pantera) did, Anyone have ideas?
How would you do the remote clutch MC? The Pantera pedal assembly does
it nicely, is there another cleaver way to offset the clutch MC from
the pedal?
On Friday, March 20, 2020, 4:40:14 AM PDT, Will Kooiman
<[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the fender needs to be dented. If you use a small master, it
fits
right behind a major support, so you're really only denting the sheet
metal.
Or, you can use a remote master with no denting.
Or, you can do what Goran and others have done. I have seen the
Dennis
CNC Brakes setup, and it is nice.
From: Ken Green <[1][6]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Ken Green <[2][7]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:00 AM
To: Mike Drew <[3][8]mikeldrew at aol.com>, Will Kooiman
<[4][9]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Detomaso List <[5][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Working on dual MC conversion like Goran
(Hemi
Pantera) did, Anyone have ideas?
I'm reluctant to make room for the clutch MC. It looks like some of
the stiffening structure is behind the fender wall that has to be
substantially dented?
Ken
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 7:29:15 PM PDT, Will Kooiman
<[6][11]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
I have Wilwood pedals with a balance bar.
I initially made a plate from 1/4" plate mild steel. It's not that
difficult with a hole saw and a mig.
The last time I had it apart, I remade it in 6061-T6.
I'm very happy with it. I need to take it apart one more time to
polish
and clear coat it.
I am not a fabricator, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.
On 3/19/20, 10:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
<[7][12]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[8][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>Ken,
>
>Pantera Performance Center sells a bolt-in dual master setup, either
with
>or without booster.
>
>There are some things (glass, tires) one doesn't bother trying to
make
>oneself. This is approaching that level IMHO.....
>
>MIKE
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 19, 2020, at 14:36, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>><[9][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> i>>? I did a first cut with a junk pedal assembly and am ready to
use a
>> better one. A 1 inch ID tube was welded into the pedal to attach
the
>> balance bar, and a plate sandwiched between the MCs and pedal box
>> casting to mount the dual MCs.
>> It's pretty simple and compact. If anyone is considering this,
we
can
>> compare notes? I can email photos of the prototype.
>> Ken
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