[DeTomaso] Amerisport GT-5S Rolling Chassis (5 of them)

Tue Mar 3 19:09:18 EST 2020

 I sat in both of Carroll's cars many times before they were sold. We had an event once and had to move the white one, which did not have an engine in it at the time (I did not know that). Tracey Smith of Shelby knew that I owned a Pantera and asked me to move it, knowing it had no motor. I was excited and jumped in to find it would not start. She was amused because moving it meant pushing the car. 
    On Tuesday, March 3, 2020, 01:34:29 PM CST, Chuck and Linda Huber <lindahuber at cox.net> wrote:  

 This is interesting timing -

I just found this in the Febuary 1987 POCA Newsletter "POCA-Mart" - the ad ran for about 3 months consecutively.

I was just going to send this to Peter, but now I have a reason to distribute it more widely.  I don't know if these are the same cars Peter listed below, but, it sounds likely.....

Regards -

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Havlik [mailto:peterhavlik at me.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:59 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; No name
Subject: [DeTomaso] New series kicking off with a Pantera

Jim:

According to Kirk Evans, he imported a total of five Panteras for Shelby (all just body shells). For the early cars, the paperwork shows them as having been imported by Shelby directly, but Kirk says this was a product of confusion at the time as they were just learning as they went along. 

When I asked him about this back in 2008, Kirk told me he had been working with Shelby and Roush circa late 1987 to “do a 50 states car” with a 425 hp supercharged Roush engine. They had investors lined up who had committed a couple of million dollars to the project but then the October 19, 1987 “Black Monday stock market crash happened and killed the whole thing. 

My records show five wide body Panteras and one narrow body:

#9281     GTS        red with beige interior    [auctioned off by Shelby’s estate by Bonhams in June 2018]
#9425    GT5-S    red with beige interior    [currently in New York]
#9426     GT5-S    Black on black         [currently in Parkville, Missouri]
#9428     GT5-S    red with black interior     [currently in Wheatton, Illinois]
#9430     GT5-S    white with black interior    [Pat Mical’s car in Tyngsboro, Massachusetts]
#9461    GT5-S    white on white         [auctioned off by Shelby’s estate by Bonhams in June 2018]

- Peter

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Interesting....I heard the words there is only one.......I have seen a Carroll Shelby owned white GT5S at Pat Micals shop.??
Is this the same car?
Jim
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   I sat in both of Carroll's cars many times before they were sold. We
   had an event once and had to move the white one, which did not have an
   engine in it at the time (I did not know that). Tracey Smith of Shelby
   knew that I owned a Pantera and asked me to move it, knowing it had no
   motor. I was excited and jumped in to find it would not start. She was
   amused because moving it meant pushing the car.

   On Tuesday, March 3, 2020, 01:34:29 PM CST, Chuck and Linda Huber
   <lindahuber at cox.net> wrote:
   This is interesting timing -
   I just found this in the Febuary 1987 POCA Newsletter "POCA-Mart" - the
   ad ran for about 3 months consecutively.
   I was just going to send this to Peter, but now I have a reason to
   distribute it more widely.  I don't know if these are the same cars
   Peter listed below, but, it sounds likely.....
   Regards -
   Chuck
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Peter Havlik [mailto:[1]peterhavlik at me.com]
   Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:59 PM
   To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; No name
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New series kicking off with a Pantera
   Jim:
   According to Kirk Evans, he imported a total of five Panteras for
   Shelby (all just body shells). For the early cars, the paperwork shows
   them as having been imported by Shelby directly, but Kirk says this was
   a product of confusion at the time as they were just learning as they
   went along.
   When I asked him about this back in 2008, Kirk told me he had been
   working with Shelby and Roush circa late 1987 to ado a 50 states cara
   with a 425 hp supercharged Roush engine. They had investors lined up
   who had committed a couple of million dollars to the project but then
   the October 19, 1987 aBlack Monday stock market crash happened and
   killed the whole thing.
   My records show five wide body Panteras and one narrow body:
   #9281     GTS        red with beige interior    [auctioned off by
   Shelbyas estate by Bonhams in June 2018]
   #9425    GT5-S    red with beige interior    [currently in New York]
   #9426     GT5-S    Black on black         [currently in Parkville,
   Missouri]
   #9428     GT5-S    red with black interior     [currently in Wheatton,
   Illinois]
   #9430     GT5-S    white with black interior    [Pat Micalas car in
   Tyngsboro, Massachusetts]
   #9461    GT5-S    white on white         [auctioned off by Shelbyas
   estate by Bonhams in June 2018]
   - Peter
   Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC)
   From: Jim Wallace <[3]pantera_4220 at yahoo.com
   <mailto:[4]pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>>
   To: Rob DuMoulin <[5]rob at dumoulins.net <mailto:[6]rob at dumoulins.net>>,
   Detomaso List
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   Interesting....I heard the words there is only one.......I have seen a
   Carroll Shelby owned white GT5S at Pat Micals shop.??
   Is this the same car?
   Jim
     On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 08:40:41 AM EST, Rob DuMoulin
   <[11]rob at dumoulins.net <mailto:[12]rob at dumoulins.net>> wrote:
   ? Exclusive: Watch Discovery's New DRIVEN Trailer Before Show Premieres
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   [1][13]https://www.carscoops.com/2020/02/exclusive-watch-discoverys-new
   -dri
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   ri>
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