[DeTomaso] Intake and heads

[Daniel C Jones]

> A friend with a Pantera recently sent me an ebay link to an intake and
head combo "kit."

The PCE part number indicated those are Pro Comp parts.  They are out of
stock because Pro Comp got such a bad reputation they had to change their
name to Speedmaster.  Be aware they are a knockoff of the CHI 3V so only
mate to intakes with that port configuration.  We dyno tested the heads and
they made less power than stock cast iron heads, even when bolted to the
best intake manifold tested (Scott Cook dual plane, not the Speedmaster/Pro
Comp intake).  I'd have to go back and check the dyno numbers for the exact
numbers but they were down nearly 100 HP to TFS 195 heads on the same
engine.  At low lifts, the exhaust out-flowed the intake.  If you buy
something like that, buy the bare heads and have them built with components
that won't fail and destroy your short block.  Better yet, save for a while
longer and buy the TFS heads and a used 2V intake.

Dan Jones

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:02 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> A friend with a Pantera recently sent me an ebay link to an intake and
> head combo "kit."  Here is a direct link:
>
> https://www.atracingworld.com/Ford-302-351C-Cleveland-Hyd-Roller-Cylinder-Head-Top-End-Engine-Combo-Kit
>
> My friend was asking if this was a good deal.  I dunno, I've never heard
> of these folks before. The specs seem pretty nice, but I don't know the
> first thing about the company, or the product.
>
> Is anyone else familiar with this kit?
> Asa  Jay
>
> --
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
> ******************************
> https://w7tsc.org
> https://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
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   > A friend with a Pantera recently sent me an ebay link to an intake
   and head combo "kit."
   The PCE part number indicated those are Pro Comp parts.A  They are out
   of stock because Pro Comp got such a bad reputation they had to change
   their name to Speedmaster.A  Be aware they are a knockoff of the CHI 3V
   so only mate to intakes with that port configuration.A  We dyno tested
   the heads and they made less power than stock cast iron heads, even
   when bolted to the best intake manifold tested (Scott Cook dual plane,
   not the Speedmaster/Pro Comp intake).A  I'd have to go back and check
   the dyno numbers for the exact numbers but they were down nearly 100 HP
   to TFS 195 heads on the same engine.A  At low lifts, the exhaust
   out-flowed the intake.A  If you buy something like that, buy the bare
   heads and have them built with components that won't fail and destroy
   your short block.A  Better yet, save for a while longer and buy the TFS
   heads and a used 2V intake.
   Dan Jones

   On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:02 PM Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     Hi all,
     A friend with a Pantera recently sent me an ebay link to an intake
     and
     head combo "kit."A  Here is a direct link:
     [2]https://www.atracingworld.com/Ford-302-351C-Cleveland-Hyd-Roller-
     Cylinder-Head-Top-End-Engine-Combo-Kit
     My friend was asking if this was a good deal.A  I dunno, I've never
     heard
     of these folks before. The specs seem pretty nice, but I don't know
     the
     first thing about the company, or the product.
     Is anyone else familiar with this kit?
     AsaA  Jay
     --
     Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
     Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
     ******************************
     [3]https://w7tsc.org
     [4]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
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References

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   2. https://www.atracingworld.com/Ford-302-351C-Cleveland-Hyd-Roller-Cylinder-Head-Top-End-Engine-Combo-Kit
   3. https://w7tsc.org/
   4. https://www.teampanteraracing.com/
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