[DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
Will Kooiman
will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sun Jun 7 23:56:30 EDT 2020
Agreed.
From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Reply-To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
Crazy, really. If you have 6 cars and one isn't insured you are unable to drive any of them?
Ridiculous, Even Kalifornia doesn't do that
Jim
----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>; steve at snclocks.com
Cc: Detomaso List Email <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 7, 2020 5:34 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
I was surprised too, that they revoked my license.
I was also surprised that he stalked me to pull me over. The cop said he watched me enter a parking lot, where I spent 30-45 minutes buying groceries. And then he followed me about a mile before he pulled me over.
Was my supposed crime that heinous? I get it if I'm wanting on other crimes, but this is madness.
For what it's worth, the area is known for over policing - red light cameras, speed traps, etc.
On 6/6/20, 2:50 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Thomas Törnblom" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of thomas at hax.se> wrote:
You’ll get haunted by collectors, just as with any other debt you don’t pay.
It is really a protection of the victim.
I don’t really see why your license would be revoked for missing to get an insurance.
Thomas
> 6 juni 2020 kl. 18:53 skrev steve at snclocks.com:
>
> And if the driver doesn't pay for the insurance? I assume the collaboration pays in the event of an accident and charges it off to the folks that do pay.
>
> Stephen
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> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:34 AM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>
> If you have a registered but uninsured vehicle here in Sweden there is a collaboration of insurance companies that will insure you and they will issue you a hefty mandary fee. So you will be covered in case you cause an accident, but it will cost you.
>
> And the guilty partys insurance company always cover all costs for normal accidents, no cost to you if the other party is at fault.
>
> And insurance issues will not affect your drivers license.
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-06 kl. 17:02, skrev Will Kooiman:
>> It’s just poor management.
>>
>> I remember years ago that Florida was supposed to become a no-fault
>> insurance state. So, if someone hits you, you repair your car, and
>> they repair theirs. It was supposed to reduce insurance costs by
>> removing the lawsuits.
>>
>> I wasn’t in Florida at the time, but it certainly isn’t no-fault anymore.
>>
>> *From: *Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM
>> *To: *"will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Thomas
>> Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
>> *Cc: *P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>>
>> I find it incredible that they will suspend your license over vehicle
>> insurance, revoke the registration yes (which they do in NV), but
>> anyone can drive a vehicle once registered so revoking your ability to
>> drive doesn't keep an insured vehicle off the road, just you!
>>
>> Julian
>>
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>> --
>>
>> *From:*DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 1:30 PM
>> *To:* Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
>> *Cc:* P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>>
>> They will in Florida, and probably in a few other states.
>>
>> It's a ticket in Texas, but they waive the fine if you prove you had
>> insurance.
>>
>> Too much big government.
>>
>> Btw, I took my car on the first drive in a very long time. I need to
>> turn it down a bit from 11 (Spinal Tap reference).
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/20, 9:42 AM, "Thomas Törnblom" <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>>
>> So will they suspend your license for having an uninsured car?
>>
>>>> 5 juni 2020 kl. 14:13 skrev Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I want to share a recent experience I had with Hagerty Insurance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just before the COVID work-from-home started, I was pulled
>> over by a
>>> police officer. The reason given for the stop was the
>> license plate
>>> frame that was barely obstructing the license plate, which is
>>> apparently dangerous enough to warrant a stop.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real reason, however, was my driver's license had been
>> suspended
>>> for about a year. I received 2 tickets, and I had to Uber it
>> home. I
>>> discovered that exactly 3 months and 1 day after I bought my
>> Viper, my
>>> license had been suspended. The FL DMV didn't send me
>> anything. How
>>> was I supposed to know?
>>>
>>>
>>> Since it was apparently tied to the Viper, I submitted my
>> USAA proof of
>>> insurance, and they unsuspended my license. That was 2 months ago.
>>> Last week, they suspended it again, and they demanded that I
>> send them
>>> my driver's license and all 5 license plates. They had
>> called USAA who
>>> naturally, denied that I had coverage for the Pantera. The
>> Pantera is
>>> insured by Hagerty. So, I called USAA and Hagerty. They
>> were both
>>> very good, but Hagerty had that personal touch. They even
>> sent me a
>>> PDF from the DMV confirming that I can, once again, drive
>> legally in
>>> the state.
>>>
>>>
>>> Two thumbs up for Hagerty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Agreed.
From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Reply-To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
Crazy, really. If you have 6 cars and one isn't insured you are unable
to drive any of them?
Ridiculous, Even Kalifornia doesn't do that
Jim
----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>; steve at snclocks.com
Cc: Detomaso List Email <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 7, 2020 5:34 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
I was surprised too, that they revoked my license.
I was also surprised that he stalked me to pull me over. The cop said
he watched me enter a parking lot, where I spent 30-45 minutes buying
groceries. And then he followed me about a mile before he pulled me
over.
Was my supposed crime that heinous? I get it if I'm wanting on other
crimes, but this is madness.
For what it's worth, the area is known for over policing - red light
cameras, speed traps, etc.
On 6/6/20, 2:50 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Thomas Toernblom"
<[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[2]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
You'll get haunted by collectors, just as with any other debt you
don't pay.
It is really a protection of the victim.
I don't really see why your license would be revoked for missing to
get an insurance.
Thomas
> 6 juni 2020 kl. 18:53 skrev [3]steve at snclocks.com:
>
> And if the driver doesn't pay for the insurance? I assume the
collaboration pays in the event of an accident and charges it off to
the folks that do pay.
>
> Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of Thomas Tornblom
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:34 AM
> To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Julian Kift
<[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: P - Mail List <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>
> If you have a registered but uninsured vehicle here in Sweden
there is a collaboration of insurance companies that will insure you
and they will issue you a hefty mandary fee. So you will be covered in
case you cause an accident, but it will cost you.
>
> And the guilty partys insurance company always cover all costs
for normal accidents, no cost to you if the other party is at fault.
>
> And insurance issues will not affect your drivers license.
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-06 kl. 17:02, skrev Will Kooiman:
>> It's just poor management.
>>
>> I remember years ago that Florida was supposed to become a
no-fault
>> insurance state. So, if someone hits you, you repair your car,
and
>> they repair theirs. It was supposed to reduce insurance costs
by
>> removing the lawsuits.
>>
>> I wasn't in Florida at the time, but it certainly isn't no-fault
anymore.
>>
>> *From: *Julian Kift <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM
>> *To: *"[9]will.kooiman at gmail.com" <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
Thomas
>> Toernblom <[11]thomas at hax.se>
>> *Cc: *P - Mail List <[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>>
>> I find it incredible that they will suspend your license over
vehicle
>> insurance, revoke the registration yes (which they do in NV),
but
>> anyone can drive a vehicle once registered so revoking your
ability to
>> drive doesn't keep an insured vehicle off the road, just you!
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>> *From:*DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf
>> of Will Kooiman <[14]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 1:30 PM
>> *To:* Thomas Toernblom <[15]thomas at hax.se>
>> *Cc:* P - Mail List <[16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
>>
>> They will in Florida, and probably in a few other states.
>>
>> It's a ticket in Texas, but they waive the fine if you prove you
had
>> insurance.
>>
>> Too much big government.
>>
>> Btw, I took my car on the first drive in a very long time. I
need to
>> turn it down a bit from 11 (Spinal Tap reference).
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/20, 9:42 AM, "Thomas Toernblom" <[17]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>>
>> So will they suspend your license for having an uninsured
car?
>>
>>>> 5 juni 2020 kl. 14:13 skrev Will Kooiman
<[18]will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I want to share a recent experience I had with Hagerty
Insurance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just before the COVID work-from-home started, I was pulled
>> over by a
>>> police officer. The reason given for the stop was the
>> license plate
>>> frame that was barely obstructing the license plate, which is
>>> apparently dangerous enough to warrant a stop.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real reason, however, was my driver's license had been
>> suspended
>>> for about a year. I received 2 tickets, and I had to Uber it
>> home. I
>>> discovered that exactly 3 months and 1 day after I bought my
>> Viper, my
>>> license had been suspended. The FL DMV didn't send me
>> anything. How
>>> was I supposed to know?
>>>
>>>
>>> Since it was apparently tied to the Viper, I submitted my
>> USAA proof of
>>> insurance, and they unsuspended my license. That was 2 months
ago.
>>> Last week, they suspended it again, and they demanded that I
>> send them
>>> my driver's license and all 5 license plates. They had
>> called USAA who
>>> naturally, denied that I had coverage for the Pantera. The
>> Pantera is
>>> insured by Hagerty. So, I called USAA and Hagerty. They
>> were both
>>> very good, but Hagerty had that personal touch. They even
>> sent me a
>>> PDF from the DMV confirming that I can, once again, drive
>> legally in
>>> the state.
>>>
>>>
>>> Two thumbs up for Hagerty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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