[DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sun Jun 7 23:56:30 EDT 2020


Agreed.

 

From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Reply-To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance

 



Crazy, really. If you have 6 cars and one isn't insured you are unable to drive any of them? 

 

Ridiculous, Even Kalifornia doesn't do that

 

Jim

 

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From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>; steve at snclocks.com
Cc: Detomaso List Email <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 7, 2020 5:34 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance

I was surprised too, that they revoked my license.

I was also surprised that he stalked me to pull me over.  The cop said he watched me enter a parking lot, where I spent 30-45 minutes buying groceries.  And then he followed me about a mile before he pulled me over.

Was my supposed crime that heinous?  I get it if I'm wanting on other crimes, but this is madness.

For what it's worth, the area is known for over policing - red light cameras, speed traps, etc.

On 6/6/20, 2:50 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Thomas Törnblom" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of thomas at hax.se> wrote:

    You’ll get haunted by collectors, just as with any other debt you don’t pay.

    It is really a protection of the victim.

    I don’t really see why your license would be revoked for missing to get an insurance. 

    Thomas

    > 6 juni 2020 kl. 18:53 skrev steve at snclocks.com:
    > 
    > And if the driver doesn't pay for the insurance?  I assume the collaboration pays in the event of an accident and charges it off to the folks that do pay.
    > 
    > Stephen
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Thomas Tornblom
    > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:34 AM
    > To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
    > Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
    > 
    > If you have a registered but uninsured vehicle here in Sweden there is a collaboration of insurance companies that will insure you and they will issue you a hefty mandary fee. So you will be covered in case you cause an accident, but it will cost you.
    > 
    > And the guilty partys insurance company always cover all costs for normal accidents, no cost to you if the other party is at fault.
    > 
    > And insurance issues will not affect your drivers license.
    > 
    > Thomas
    > 
    >> Den 2020-06-06 kl. 17:02, skrev Will Kooiman:
    >> It’s just poor management.
    >> 
    >> I remember years ago that Florida was supposed to become a no-fault 
    >> insurance state.  So, if someone hits you, you repair your car, and 
    >> they repair theirs.  It was supposed to reduce insurance costs by 
    >> removing the lawsuits.
    >> 
    >> I wasn’t in Florida at the time, but it certainly isn’t no-fault anymore.
    >> 
    >> *From: *Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
    >> *Date: *Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM
    >> *To: *"will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Thomas 
    >> Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
    >> *Cc: *P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    >> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
    >> 
    >> I find it incredible that they will suspend your license over vehicle 
    >> insurance, revoke the registration yes (which they do in NV), but 
    >> anyone can drive a vehicle once registered so revoking your ability to 
    >> drive doesn't keep an insured vehicle off the road, just you!
    >> 
    >> Julian
    >> 
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    >> of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
    >> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 1:30 PM
    >> *To:* Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
    >> *Cc:* P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
    >> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
    >> 
    >> They will in Florida, and probably in a few other states.
    >> 
    >> It's a ticket in Texas, but they waive the fine if you prove you had 
    >> insurance.
    >> 
    >> Too much big government.
    >> 
    >> Btw, I took my car on the first drive in a very long time.  I need to 
    >> turn it down a bit from 11 (Spinal Tap reference).
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On 6/5/20, 9:42 AM, "Thomas Törnblom" <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
    >> 
    >>    So will they suspend your license for having an uninsured car?
    >> 
    >>>> 5 juni 2020 kl. 14:13 skrev Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
    >>> 
    >>>   I want to share a recent experience I had with Hagerty Insurance.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>  Just before the COVID work-from-home started, I was pulled 
    >> over by a
    >>>  police officer.  The reason given for the stop was the 
    >> license plate
    >>>  frame that was barely obstructing the license plate, which is
    >>>  apparently dangerous enough to warrant a stop.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>  The real reason, however, was my driver's license had been 
    >> suspended
    >>>  for about a year.  I received 2 tickets, and I had to Uber it 
    >> home.  I
    >>>  discovered that exactly 3 months and 1 day after I bought my 
    >> Viper, my
    >>>  license had been suspended.  The FL DMV didn't send me 
    >> anything.  How
    >>>  was I supposed to know?
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>  Since it was apparently tied to the Viper, I submitted my 
    >> USAA proof of
    >>>  insurance, and they unsuspended my license.  That was 2 months ago.
    >>>  Last week, they suspended it again, and they demanded that I 
    >> send them
    >>>  my driver's license and all 5 license plates.  They had 
    >> called USAA who
    >>>  naturally, denied that I had coverage for the Pantera.  The 
    >> Pantera is
    >>>  insured by Hagerty.  So, I called USAA and Hagerty.  They 
    >> were both
    >>>  very good, but Hagerty had that personal touch.  They even 
    >> sent me a
    >>>  PDF from the DMV confirming that I can, once again, drive 
    >> legally in
    >>>  the state.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>  Two thumbs up for Hagerty.
    >>> 
    >>> 
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   Agreed.


   From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
   Reply-To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
   Date: Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 4:54 PM
   To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance


   Crazy, really. If you have 6 cars and one isn't insured you are unable
   to drive any of them?


   Ridiculous, Even Kalifornia doesn't do that


   Jim


   ----Original Message-----

   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>; steve at snclocks.com
   Cc: Detomaso List Email <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sun, Jun 7, 2020 5:34 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance

   I was surprised too, that they revoked my license.
   I was also surprised that he stalked me to pull me over.  The cop said
   he watched me enter a parking lot, where I spent 30-45 minutes buying
   groceries.  And then he followed me about a mile before he pulled me
   over.
   Was my supposed crime that heinous?  I get it if I'm wanting on other
   crimes, but this is madness.
   For what it's worth, the area is known for over policing - red light
   cameras, speed traps, etc.
   On 6/6/20, 2:50 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Thomas Toernblom"
   <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [2]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
       You'll get haunted by collectors, just as with any other debt you
   don't pay.
       It is really a protection of the victim.
       I don't really see why your license would be revoked for missing to
   get an insurance.
       Thomas
       > 6 juni 2020 kl. 18:53 skrev [3]steve at snclocks.com:
       >
       > And if the driver doesn't pay for the insurance?  I assume the
   collaboration pays in the event of an accident and charges it off to
   the folks that do pay.
       >
       > Stephen
       > -----Original Message-----
       > From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
   Behalf Of Thomas Tornblom
       > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:34 AM
       > To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; Julian Kift
   <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
       > Cc: P - Mail List <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
       >
       > If you have a registered but uninsured vehicle here in Sweden
   there is a collaboration of insurance companies that will insure you
   and they will issue you a hefty mandary fee. So you will be covered in
   case you cause an accident, but it will cost you.
       >
       > And the guilty partys insurance company always cover all costs
   for normal accidents, no cost to you if the other party is at fault.
       >
       > And insurance issues will not affect your drivers license.
       >
       > Thomas
       >
       >> Den 2020-06-06 kl. 17:02, skrev Will Kooiman:
       >> It's just poor management.
       >>
       >> I remember years ago that Florida was supposed to become a
   no-fault
       >> insurance state.  So, if someone hits you, you repair your car,
   and
       >> they repair theirs.  It was supposed to reduce insurance costs
   by
       >> removing the lawsuits.
       >>
       >> I wasn't in Florida at the time, but it certainly isn't no-fault
   anymore.
       >>
       >> *From: *Julian Kift <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
       >> *Date: *Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM
       >> *To: *"[9]will.kooiman at gmail.com" <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
   Thomas
       >> Toernblom <[11]thomas at hax.se>
       >> *Cc: *P - Mail List <[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       >> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
       >>
       >> I find it incredible that they will suspend your license over
   vehicle
       >> insurance, revoke the registration yes (which they do in NV),
   but
       >> anyone can drive a vehicle once registered so revoking your
   ability to
       >> drive doesn't keep an insured vehicle off the road, just you!
       >>
       >> Julian
       >>
       >>
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
       >> --
       >>
       >> *From:*DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
   on behalf
       >> of Will Kooiman <[14]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
       >> *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 1:30 PM
       >> *To:* Thomas Toernblom <[15]thomas at hax.se>
       >> *Cc:* P - Mail List <[16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       >> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance
       >>
       >> They will in Florida, and probably in a few other states.
       >>
       >> It's a ticket in Texas, but they waive the fine if you prove you
   had
       >> insurance.
       >>
       >> Too much big government.
       >>
       >> Btw, I took my car on the first drive in a very long time.  I
   need to
       >> turn it down a bit from 11 (Spinal Tap reference).
       >>
       >>
       >> On 6/5/20, 9:42 AM, "Thomas Toernblom" <[17]thomas at hax.se>
   wrote:
       >>
       >>    So will they suspend your license for having an uninsured
   car?
       >>
       >>>> 5 juni 2020 kl. 14:13 skrev Will Kooiman
   <[18]will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
       >>>
       >>>   I want to share a recent experience I had with Hagerty
   Insurance.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>  Just before the COVID work-from-home started, I was pulled
       >> over by a
       >>>  police officer.  The reason given for the stop was the
       >> license plate
       >>>  frame that was barely obstructing the license plate, which is
       >>>  apparently dangerous enough to warrant a stop.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>  The real reason, however, was my driver's license had been
       >> suspended
       >>>  for about a year.  I received 2 tickets, and I had to Uber it
       >> home.  I
       >>>  discovered that exactly 3 months and 1 day after I bought my
       >> Viper, my
       >>>  license had been suspended.  The FL DMV didn't send me
       >> anything.  How
       >>>  was I supposed to know?
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>  Since it was apparently tied to the Viper, I submitted my
       >> USAA proof of
       >>>  insurance, and they unsuspended my license.  That was 2 months
   ago.
       >>>  Last week, they suspended it again, and they demanded that I
       >> send them
       >>>  my driver's license and all 5 license plates.  They had
       >> called USAA who
       >>>  naturally, denied that I had coverage for the Pantera.  The
       >> Pantera is
       >>>  insured by Hagerty.  So, I called USAA and Hagerty.  They
       >> were both
       >>>  very good, but Hagerty had that personal touch.  They even
       >> sent me a
       >>>  PDF from the DMV confirming that I can, once again, drive
       >> legally in
       >>>  the state.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>  Two thumbs up for Hagerty.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
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