[DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hagerty Insurance

[Will Kooiman]

Understood.

At some point America might figure all of this out, but I'm afraid it's baked into human nature.

It certainly won't be significantly better in my lifetime.

On 6/6/20, 11:20 AM, "Himes, Terry (US 397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

    That's because law makers are mostly lawyers and they want to keep their buddies 
    in business.  State Insurance Commissioners are all Ex-Insurance executives and they 
    are very in-breed, and all lawyers.  I have seen behind the curtain. Not pretty.



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    On 6/6/20, 8:02 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

        It’s just poor management.



        I remember years ago that Florida was supposed to become a no-fault insurance state.  So, if someone hits you, you repair your car, and they repair theirs.  It was supposed to reduce insurance costs by removing the lawsuits.



        I wasn’t in Florida at the time, but it certainly isn’t no-fault anymore.



        From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
        Date: Friday, June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM
        To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
        Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance



        I find it incredible that they will suspend your license over vehicle insurance, revoke the registration yes (which they do in NV), but anyone can drive a vehicle once registered so revoking your ability to drive doesn't keep an insured vehicle off the road, just you!



        Julian

        From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
        Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 1:30 PM
        To: Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se>
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        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Insurance 



        They will in Florida, and probably in a few other states.

        It's a ticket in Texas, but they waive the fine if you prove you had insurance.

        Too much big government.

        Btw, I took my car on the first drive in a very long time.  I need to turn it down a bit from 11 (Spinal Tap reference).


        On 6/5/20, 9:42 AM, "Thomas Törnblom" <thomas at hax.se> wrote:

            So will they suspend your license for having an uninsured car?

            > 5 juni 2020 kl. 14:13 skrev Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>:
            > 
            >    I want to share a recent experience I had with Hagerty Insurance.
            > 
            > 
            >   Just before the COVID work-from-home started, I was pulled over by a
            >   police officer.  The reason given for the stop was the license plate
            >   frame that was barely obstructing the license plate, which is
            >   apparently dangerous enough to warrant a stop.
            > 
            > 
            >   The real reason, however, was my driver's license had been suspended
            >   for about a year.  I received 2 tickets, and I had to Uber it home.  I
            >   discovered that exactly 3 months and 1 day after I bought my Viper, my
            >   license had been suspended.  The FL DMV didn't send me anything.  How
            >   was I supposed to know?
            > 
            > 
            >   Since it was apparently tied to the Viper, I submitted my USAA proof of
            >   insurance, and they unsuspended my license.  That was 2 months ago.
            >   Last week, they suspended it again, and they demanded that I send them
            >   my driver's license and all 5 license plates.  They had called USAA who
            >   naturally, denied that I had coverage for the Pantera.  The Pantera is
            >   insured by Hagerty.  So, I called USAA and Hagerty.  They were both
            >   very good, but Hagerty had that personal touch.  They even sent me a
            >   PDF from the DMV confirming that I can, once again, drive legally in
            >   the state.
            > 
            > 
            >   Two thumbs up for Hagerty.
            > 
            > 
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