[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 192, Issue 2
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 3 16:32:04 EDT 2020
Do you have access to the Provamo Registry? The car has some details listed and numerous photos. It looks to be an early L model with 2 pod dash, so surprised it would not have been a US delivered car and thus have a Marti report.
Julian
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Does anyone have any information on Pantera #5102?? My friend at Ford John Clinard is looking for any information on this car for a friend of his. His friend says he tried to get a Marti Report but they don’t have this car in their records.
Thanks.
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> 1. Tach & Speedo Mounting Options? (Mike Reilly)
> 2. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 3. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 4. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 5. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 6. Tach & Speedo Mounting Options? (Larry Finch)
> 7. Re: Ouch. Bad press. (audionut at hushmail.com)
> 8. Re: Ouch. Bad press. (Pantdino)
> 9. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Rob DuMoulin)
> 10. Need tach bulb sockets (Larry Finch)
> 11. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 12. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 13. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 14. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 15. Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 16. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 17. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Charles McCall)
> 18. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Forest Goodhart)
> 19. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 20. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 21. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Mike Drew)
> 22. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Mike Drew)
> 23. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 24. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 25. Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 26. Nut and spade connector for reverse switch (Ed Mendez)
> 27. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Julian Kift)
> 28. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Stock)
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> From: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
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> Hi all. Like many of you I have removed my speedo and tach for various reasons such as lightbulb replacement, speedo cable adjustments, electrical connections on the back etc. I recently got my tach out through the normal 1) remove driver?s seat, 2) lay on back on floor, 3) jam my hands into the tiny places to get to the knurl nuts holding the speedo/tach in place and then 4) removing tach or speedo from front of dash. Some folks also remove the speedo just to get to the tach knurl nuts on the tach. This is all especially fun with the late model single pod dash. There?s got to be a better way??.
>
> I recently remembered when I owned my 80?s era Porsche 911s and I always admired their great engineering. They used a simple rubber gasket around all the instruments that allowed for easy push in/pull out maintenance. I wonder, has anyone adapted this idea for the Pantera? I have heard of folks experimenting with layers of tape around the speedo or tach to provide a good friction fit to the dashboard.
>
> I don?t take my speedo or tach out often but when I need to it?s definitely a lot harder than my old Porsche 911sc. I did a bit of quick research and found that pelican parts sells the Porsche 911 rubber instrument mounting gaskets for $12 and they are 115mm diameter. This is slightly bigger than our Pantera instrument case diameter. Not sure if it would work. Anyone ever try this approach with good success?
>
> Attached pics for reference. Pelican parts link: https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=frameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%26page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FSuperCat%2F0804%2FPOR_0804_ELGAGE_pg2.htm%3Futm_source%3DSuperTech%23item11
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> Thanks, Mike
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> Hi all. Like many of you I have removed my speedo and tach for various
> reasons such as lightbulb replacement, speedo cable adjustments,
> electrical connections on the back etc. I recently got my tach out
> through the normal 1) remove driver's seat, 2) lay on back on floor, 3)
> jam my hands into the tiny places to get to the knurl nuts holding the
> speedo/tach in place and then 4) removing tach or speedo from front of
> dash. Some folks also remove the speedo just to get to the tach knurl
> nuts on the tach. This is all especially fun with the late model
> single pod dash. There's got to be a better way.......
>
>
> I recently remembered when I owned my 80's era Porsche 911s and I
> always admired their great engineering. They used a simple rubber
> gasket around all the instruments that allowed for easy push in/pull
> out maintenance. I wonder, has anyone adapted this idea for the
> Pantera? I have heard of folks experimenting with layers of tape
> around the speedo or tach to provide a good friction fit to the
> dashboard.
>
>
> I don't take my speedo or tach out often but when I need to it's
> definitely a lot harder than my old Porsche 911sc. I did a bit of
> quick research and found that pelican parts sells the Porsche 911
> rubber instrument mounting gaskets for $12 and they are 115mm
> diameter. This is slightly bigger than our Pantera instrument case
> diameter. Not sure if it would work. Anyone ever try this approach
> with good success?
>
>
> Attached pics for reference. Pelican parts link:
> [1]https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=fr
> ameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%2
> 6page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FS
> uperCat%2F0804%2FPOR_0804_ELGAGE_pg2.htm%3Futm_source%3DSuperTech%23ite
> m11
>
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> References
>
> 1. https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=frameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%26page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FSuperCat%2F0804%2FPOR_0804_ELGAGE_pg2.htm%3Futm_source%3DSuperTech%23item11
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:39:29 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Chuck,
>
> FWIW what I did with my factory ANSA pipes was to cut back the pipes a bit further, and fabricate a Y-shaped pipe of similar diameter made of similar perforated tubing, then I packed the muffler thoroughly with stainless steel muffler packing material (which I got from Howe Racing I believe) and welded the tops of the mufflers back on.
>
> (You are supposed to do this surgery from above because it will leave scars, which are invisible when the mufflers are mounted in the car).
>
> It worked great, but horsepower improvements were nit as great as I would have hoped (only 12 hp) because the true restriction comes from the small diameter of the resonator tips. Newer production ANSA mufflers have no resonators in the tips for better flow (and Wilkinson mufflers use resonators whose OD is unnoticeable greater than stock but ID is MUCH greater than stock, for much better flow).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:09, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Dear Mike, Mike and Joe,
>>
>> I am in the middle of the muffler modification project as described by Gerry Romack. Here is the link for his method;
>>
>> http://www.greatlakespantera.com/Pantera%20Muffler%20Modification%20edited.pdf
>>
>>
>> I am attaching a few photos of my unfinished project.
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:34 PM
>> To: Rob DuMoulin
>> Cc: P - Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> That?s a super-easy one. Wilkinson GTS copy. Made of stainless steel, it made 31hp more than factory ANSA GTS in a Dan Jones Dyno test.
>>
>> Lori has them on her car, and they are fantastic. They still have the GTS drone because the mufflers are made in the stock fashion, so I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them inside to get rid of it.
>>
>> Still, there is no finer system available for our cars IMHO.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On May 31, 2020, at 16:33, Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? 1488 is about to get an aluminum block 408 transplant. Trouble is, it
>>> currently has Hall Pantera Big Bore headers and the stock mufflers. The
>>> new engine will be pushing almost 600 horses and I know the stock
>>> exhaust will most likely erupt. What currently available options exist
>>> that maintain a stock appearance?
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> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Chuck,
>
> FWIW what I did with my factory ANSA pipes was to cut back the pipes a bit further, and fabricate a Y-shaped pipe of similar diameter made of similar perforated tubing, then I packed the muffler thoroughly with stainless steel muffler packing material (which I got from Howe Racing I believe) and welded the tops of the mufflers back on.
>
> (You are supposed to do this surgery from above because it will leave scars, which are invisible when the mufflers are mounted in the car).
>
> It worked great, but horsepower improvements were nit as great as I would have hoped (only 12 hp) because the true restriction comes from the small diameter of the resonator tips. Newer production ANSA mufflers have no resonators in the tips for better flow (and Wilkinson mufflers use resonators whose OD is unnoticeable greater than stock but ID is MUCH greater than stock, for much better flow).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:09, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Dear Mike, Mike and Joe,
>>
>> I am in the middle of the muffler modification project as described by Gerry Romack. Here is the link for his method;
>>
>> http://www.greatlakespantera.com/Pantera%20Muffler%20Modification%20edited.pdf
>>
>>
>> I am attaching a few photos of my unfinished project.
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:34 PM
>> To: Rob DuMoulin
>> Cc: P - Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> That?s a super-easy one. Wilkinson GTS copy. Made of stainless steel, it made 31hp more than factory ANSA GTS in a Dan Jones Dyno test.
>>
>> Lori has them on her car, and they are fantastic. They still have the GTS drone because the mufflers are made in the stock fashion, so I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them inside to get rid of it.
>>
>> Still, there is no finer system available for our cars IMHO.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On May 31, 2020, at 16:33, Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? 1488 is about to get an aluminum block 408 transplant. Trouble is, it
>>> currently has Hall Pantera Big Bore headers and the stock mufflers. The
>>> new engine will be pushing almost 600 horses and I know the stock
>>> exhaust will most likely erupt. What currently available options exist
>>> that maintain a stock appearance?
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:40:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Hahahah! She has two but doesn?t like to use them for some reason...
>
> Mike
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>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:25, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper for her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next project, as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
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>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
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>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Hahahah! She has two but doesn?t like to use them for some reason...
>
> Mike
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>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:25, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper for her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next project, as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> A A >
>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso
>> <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>> A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> A A > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:34 PM
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>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust
>> options.
>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:43:06 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tach & Speedo Mounting Options?
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> Mike,
>
> Had to chuckle reading your post this morning. Like you and all other owners, I have suffered through the tribulations of removing and reinstalling the tach and speedometer. Those two little nuts on each gauge bracket are maniacally designed to elicit words of frustration.
>
> With an enhanced inaccessibility due to some of the HVAC modifications I did on 2511, I realized I had aggravated an already challenging process.
>
> You mentioned resorting to just a friction mounting approach and that is exactly what I did. Nothing as complex as wrapping prone-to-deterioration tape or adapting a rubber gasket.
>
> I took my soldering gun and melted the two gauge housing edges at 12-3-6-9 o?clock. Cautious trial and error eventually found the sweet spot between too tight and too loose. I have no fear of either gauge rotating or popping out, but both can be easily pushed out after threading a few fingers behind them.
>
> I have the early two pod dash which I am pretty sure is an ABS black plastic. Don?t know if this approach works on the single pod dashes.
>
> If anyone needs two brackets and some retaining nuts, I?ve got a pair available.
>
> ;-)
>
> YMMV
>
> Larry
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:01:08 -0700
> From: audionut at hushmail.com
> To: "P - Mail List" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
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> Ouch? Not at all. Let fools keep fools away from us and our Panteras.
>
> We know what we have.
>
> Unrelenting demand for content on the interwebs means writers are constantly dredging the bottom of the barrel just to have something uploaded every day.
>
> It may be a bitter pill for some, but the truth is most people are completely batshit crazy and proud of it. The web reflects this.
>
> Once this pill is swallowed then random idiocy becomes something to be expected and life can be taken in stride much more easily.
>
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>> On 5/31/2020 at 3:54 PM, "Rob DuMoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>
>> We made the naught list.
>>
>> https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.thethings.com
>> /old-supercars-to-buy-used-on-the-cheap-and-some-to-avoid-at-all-
>> costs/&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTgxNTkyMDIyMzc5NzA1MTQ2MzAyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ
>> 4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNG19DZ1lMM1lXm1zUJhhlpGQiw2JQ
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:45:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
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> Re the Testarossa-? The steel studs holding the aluminum heads to the block seize to the heads so it is impossible to repair the motor.? And they are not available, obviously. Also, I believe it shares the transaxle with the earlier car. The case cracks and the transaxle is junk. Also not available, obviously.?
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; tipo874a at msn.com <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 8:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
>
> He's also pretty far off on Vipers.
>
> How about this:? Most vipers are not driven, so the wheel bearings go out (rust, etc.), brake fluid corrodes, head gaskets and timing chain cover gaskets fail, and cost 4 figures to repair.? Nobody makes replacement windshields, door gaskets, headlights.? The head gaskets on Gen-1s used to be $1,000 for the set.
>
> Oh - and in stock trim, they get 20 mpg, so what's up with the fuel costs concern?? Our mini Cooper gets low 20s.
>
> Don?t get me wrong.? I love my Gen-2, almost as much as I love my Pantera.? I just think he's way off on the description of Viper ownership.
>
> He's also way off on Testarossas.? I drove a 512 TR once, and loved it.? Yes, the maintenance is high, but it's well worth it.? It's certainly not in the "avoid at all costs" bucket.? It should be in the "buy it if you can afford maintenance" bucket.
>
>
>
> ?On 5/31/20, 10:37 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Pantdino via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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> ? ? ? Didn't even spend the time to find out what these many things are that
> ? ? ? supposedly go wrong.
> ? ? ? A disgrace to journalism
> ? ? ? Jim
> ? ? ? -----Original Message-----
> ? ? ? From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> ? ? ? To: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> ? ? ? Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> ? ? ? Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 4:14 pm
> ? ? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> ? ? ? The worst article ever !!!!
> ? ? ? Leslie A. Gray
> ? ? ? > On May 31, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Rob DuMoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
> ? ? ? wrote:
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? > i>>?? We made the naught list.
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? [1][2]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.thethings.c
> ? ? ? om/
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? old-supercars-to-buy-used-on-the-cheap-and-some-to-avoid-at-all-costs/&
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTgxNTkyMDIyMzc5NzA1MTQ2MzAyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y2
> ? ? ? >? 9tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNG19DZ1lMM1lXm1zUJhhlpGQiw2JQ
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? > References
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> ? ? ? >? 1.
> ? ? ? [3]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.thethings.com/
> ? ? ? old-supercars-to-buy-used-on-the-cheap-and-some-to-avoid-at-all-costs/&
> ? ? ? ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTgxNTkyMDIyMzc5NzA1MTQ2MzAyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y2
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> Re the Testarossa- The steel studs holding the aluminum heads to the
> block seize to the heads so it is impossible to repair the motor. And
> they are not available, obviously. Also, I believe it shares the
> transaxle with the earlier car. The case cracks and the transaxle is
> junk. Also not available, obviously.
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; tipo874a at msn.com <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 8:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> He's also pretty far off on Vipers.
> How about this: Most vipers are not driven, so the wheel bearings go
> out (rust, etc.), brake fluid corrodes, head gaskets and timing chain
> cover gaskets fail, and cost 4 figures to repair. Nobody makes
> replacement windshields, door gaskets, headlights. The head gaskets on
> Gen-1s used to be $1,000 for the set.
> Oh - and in stock trim, they get 20 mpg, so what's up with the fuel
> costs concern? Our mini Cooper gets low 20s.
> Donat get me wrong. I love my Gen-2, almost as much as I love my
> Pantera. I just think he's way off on the description of Viper
> ownership.
> He's also way off on Testarossas. I drove a 512 TR once, and loved
> it. Yes, the maintenance is high, but it's well worth it. It's
> certainly not in the "avoid at all costs" bucket. It should be in the
> "buy it if you can afford maintenance" bucket.
> i>>?On 5/31/20, 10:37 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Pantdino via DeTomaso"
> <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Didn't even spend the time to find out what these many things are
> that
> supposedly go wrong.
> A disgrace to journalism
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L GRAY <[3]tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: Rob DuMoulin <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: P - Mail List <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 4:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> The worst article ever !!!!
> Leslie A. Gray
>> On May 31, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Rob DuMoulin
> <[1][6]rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> i>>? We made the naught list.
>>
>
> [1][2][7]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.thething
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> om/
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>> 1.
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:55:11 -0400
> From: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Are you calling Mike a "Creeper". That's just wrong!
>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 10:25 AM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper for her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next project, as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> A A >
>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso
>> <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>> A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> A A > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:34 PM
>> A A > To: Rob DuMoulin <[3][5]rob at dumoulins.net>
>> A A > Cc: P - Mail List <[4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust
>> options.
>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Are you calling Mike a "Creeper". That's just wrong!
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 10:25 AM Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper
> for her
> A A birthday.A
> A A Jeff
> A A 6559
> A A On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall
> <[1][2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> A A wrote:
> A A A AA A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
> A A A AA A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew
> via
> A A A DeTomaso
> A A A AA A <[2][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A Joe,
> A A A AA A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully
> documented
> A A A in the
> A A A AA A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the
> PCNC
> A A A website). It
> A A A AA A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do
> it for
> A A A years now.
> A A A AA A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car
> off to drop
> A A A the oil
> A A A AA A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing
> off the
> A A A emergency
> A A A AA A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in
> replacement that I
> A A A have
> A A A AA A standing by) and removing the previously installed
> bolt-in
> A A A chassis
> A A A AA A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we
> cut that
> A A A out and
> A A A AA A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to
> have grown
> A A A since it
> A A A AA A was installed because it sure did not want to come
> out!AA Lots
> A A A of
> A A A AA A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and
> finally using
> A A A a
> A A A AA A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this
> asimplea
> A A A piece
> A A A AA A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas
> end mill
> A A A (Harbor
> A A A AA A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely
> now.
> A A A AA A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the
> underside
> A A A of the
> A A A AA A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a
> few days
> A A A before we
> A A A AA A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The
> parking
> A A A brake hasnat
> A A A AA A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next
> project, as
> A A A we have
> A A A AA A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no
> reason not
> A A A to
> A A A AA A implement it.
> A A A AA A Lori worked hard today!
> A A A AA A Good times in the garage!
> A A A AA A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the
> photos you
> A A A can see
> A A A AA A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint
> burned off
> A A A long
> A A A AA A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a
> body shop
> A A A offered
> A A A AA A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut
> them
> A A A apart and
> A A A AA A fix them first.AA He needs to have his rear axles and
> bearings
> A A A replaced
> A A A AA A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of
> favors.
> A A A Just
> A A A AA A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to
> bring his hub
> A A A AA A carriers up here....
> A A A AA A Mike
> A A A AA A Sent from my iPad
> A A A AA A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
> A A A AA A <[1][3][4]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly
> appreciated
> A A A AA A > Joe
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > -----Original Message-----
> A A A AA A > From: DeTomaso
> A A A <[2][4][5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> A A A AA A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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> A A A AA A > Cc: P - Mail List
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> A A A AA A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought -
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> A A A options.
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them
> . .
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 18:56:59 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> ?All,
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> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>
> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
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> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
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>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:24:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
> Message-ID: <2F3BEEC3-2CD4-48EA-9729-154A75659EF9 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Larry,
>
> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox). The rest use a single wire.
>
> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare one-wire sockets if that will do.
>
> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:24:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> Larry,
>
> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox). The rest use a single wire.
>
> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare one-wire sockets if that will do.
>
> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:35:20 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> Larry,
>
> A thought. The Hall Pantera replacement ammeter uses a plastic case so it has to have a two-wire bulb socket. It probably comes with the gauge but you could try calling them to see if they sell them separately?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:35:20 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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>
> Larry,
>
> A thought. The Hall Pantera replacement ammeter uses a plastic case so it has to have a two-wire bulb socket. It probably comes with the gauge but you could try calling them to see if they sell them separately?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo._______________________________________________
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:14:32 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Mike,
>
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511 originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply grounded to the chassis.
>
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both only supplied through the dimmer.
>
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>
> UPDATE?-
>
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to create the two pin versions I need.
>
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 06:00:57 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
> Message-ID: <AAD62425-BA45-4ABC-8901-2F52D0545E64 at hax.se>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
>
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many years ago.
>
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>
> Thomas
>
>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> ?Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox). The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 09:43:39 +0530
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Email List Address For Posting
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin you have
> to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is running
> hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by 15C... you won't
> have that option if you ground the gauges.
>
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>>
>> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout stability
>> of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift with lights on and
>> off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
>>
>> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many years ago.
>>
>> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>>
>>> ?Larry,
>>>
>>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to
>> both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox). The
>> rest use a single wire.
>>>
>>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare one-wire
>> sockets if that will do.
>>>
>>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the gauge
>> and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from your gauge,
>> be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
>> the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>>
>>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis ground.
>>>>
>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I cannot
>> find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin you
> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is
> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.A
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas TAP:rnblom <[1]thomas at hax.se>
> wrote:
>
> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
> years ago.
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
> Thomas
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> i>>?Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered
> to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via
> fusebox).A The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets?A I have plenty of spare
> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if itas missing from
> your gauge, be sure to check to see if itas stuck to your harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> i>>?All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
> in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
> ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
> cannot find them on Steveas website but havenat made any calls yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Larry,All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both front lamps to the same terminal.Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511 originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply grounded to the chassis.
>
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both only supplied through the dimmer.
>
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>
> UPDATE?-
>
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to create the two pin versions I need.
>
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Larry,
>
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
>
> Forest
>
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
> UPDATEa-
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:55:18 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID: <FB33058C-CDA2-463E-936B-0A66285E9516 at aol.com>
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> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and installed the diode?s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner who is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need will be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1 pin versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting circuit fed only through the dimmer.
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Larry,
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both front lamps to the same terminal.
>> Forest
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511 originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
> function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant
> the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I
> re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input
> to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
> installed the diode`s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner who
> is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need will
> be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1 pin
> versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting circuit
> fed only through the dimmer.
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>
> Larry,
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
> Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
> UPDATE---
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:55:18 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID: <FB33058C-CDA2-463E-936B-0A66285E9516 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and installed the diode?s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner who is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need will be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1 pin versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting circuit fed only through the dimmer.
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Larry,
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both front lamps to the same terminal.
>> Forest
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511 originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
> function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant
> the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I
> re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input
> to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
> installed the diode`s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner who
> is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need will
> be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1 pin
> versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting circuit
> fed only through the dimmer.
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>
> Larry,
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
> Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
> UPDATE---
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 22:15:30 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID: <D6C902C5-3A83-492D-9489-F508F3235676 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 21:23, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? Larry,
>>
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator...
>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification Forest! I stared right at it and failed to notice the turn signal light had two prongs.
>
> Larry?I can cannibalize a spare fuel gauge to send you a couple of one-prong sockets if your need is truly desperate. However the sockets are part of the gauge assembly and that renders the gauge only partly useable to someone unless they are replacing an existing stock gauge and can swap the sockets over.
>
> I would urge you to exhaust other avenues first. I suspect these things can be bought quite cheaply?
>
> Mike
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a
>> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
>> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
>> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
>> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
>> grounded to the chassis.
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
>> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
>> only supplied through the dimmer.
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and
>> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will
>> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>> UPDATEa-
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal
>> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more
>> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
>> create the two pin versions I need.
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 22:15:30 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID: <D6C902C5-3A83-492D-9489-F508F3235676 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 21:23, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? Larry,
>>
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator...
>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification Forest! I stared right at it and failed to notice the turn signal light had two prongs.
>
> Larry?I can cannibalize a spare fuel gauge to send you a couple of one-prong sockets if your need is truly desperate. However the sockets are part of the gauge assembly and that renders the gauge only partly useable to someone unless they are replacing an existing stock gauge and can swap the sockets over.
>
> I would urge you to exhaust other avenues first. I suspect these things can be bought quite cheaply?
>
> Mike
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a
>> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
>> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
>> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
>> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
>> grounded to the chassis.
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
>> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
>> only supplied through the dimmer.
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and
>> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will
>> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>> UPDATEa-
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal
>> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more
>> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
>> create the two pin versions I need.
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:12:59 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Email List Address For Posting
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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>
> :)
>
> Some black tape covering the face of the gauge works too :D
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 06:13, skrev Charles McCall:
>> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin you
>> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is
>> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
>> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.
>>
>> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se
>> <mailto:thomas at hax.se>> wrote:
>>
>> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
>> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
>> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
>>
>> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
>> years ago.
>>
>> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>:
>>>
>>> ?Larry,
>>>
>>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is
>> soldered to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and
>> battery (via fusebox).? The rest use a single wire.
>>>
>>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets?? I have plenty of spare
>> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>>
>>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
>> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing
>> from your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your
>> harness?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator
>> lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>>
>>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
>> ground.
>>>>
>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know.
>> I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
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> :)
> Some black tape covering the face of the gauge works too :D
> Thomas
>
> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 06:13, skrev Charles McCall:
>
> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin you
> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is
> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas Toernblom <[1]thomas at hax.se>
> wrote:
>
> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
> years ago.
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
> Thomas
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered
> to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via
> fusebox). The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it's missing from
> your gauge, be sure to check to see if it's stuck to your harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
> in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
> ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
> cannot find them on Steve's website but haven't made any calls yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:28:06 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Looks like this might be a European thing.
>
> I can easily locate lots of them here, but not so easy in the US.
>
> Here's a Ba9s style one from amazon UK:
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/INSTRUMENT-HOLDER-SINGLE-CONTACT-170790/dp/B01N8TAT4Z
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 05:14, skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso:
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511 originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 00:56:07 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days to see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 07:47:33 -0500
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Nut and spade connector for reverse switch
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> Does anybody have or know where I can get a nut and spade connector for my reverse switch? Anyone know what size the threads are? 6mm?
>
> Thanks Ed
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 14:35:50 +0000
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> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> VDO gauge bulb socket?
>
> https://www.jbugs.com/product/V600819.html?utm_content=shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItZGjpqzj6QIVlxatBh22JgeQEAQYDSABEgIrw_D_BwE
>
> https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vdo-5166/accessories-16449/accessories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---bulbs---light-kits-17808/407d7643107c/vdo-gauge-replacement-bulb-socket/600840/4774508
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> Julian
>
> ________________________________
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>
> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days to see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
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> VDO gauge bulb socket?
>
> [1]https://www.jbugs.com/product/V600819.html?utm_content=shopping&gcli
> d=EAIaIQobChMItZGjpqzj6QIVlxatBh22JgeQEAQYDSABEgIrw_D_BwE
>
> [2]https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vdo-5166/accessories-16449/acce
> ssories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---bu
> lbs---light-kits-17808/407d7643107c/vdo-gauge-replacement-bulb-socket/6
> 00840/4774508
>
> Julian
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> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:56 AM
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
>
> Mike,
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket
> gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has
> collected.
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search
> term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries them.
> And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one who has
> an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often gathered
> just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to those in
> need. It's a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I'll give it a couple days to
> see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it
> and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
> And so it goes......
> Larry
>
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> 2. https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vdo-5166/accessories-16449/accessories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---bulbs---light-kits-17808/407d7643107c/vdo-gauge-replacement-bulb-socket/600840/4774508
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> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 07:45:55 -0700
> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address For
> Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> I have a few of these I could have sent with your throttle Cable since the shipping costs more than these terminals
> 13006B Socket instr/gauges dual term. @$10.15 ea
> Larry
>
> ?On 6/2/20, 12:56 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days to see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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Do you have access to the Provamo Registry? The car has some details
listed and numerous photos. It looks to be an early L model with 2 pod
dash, so surprised it would not have been a US delivered car and thus
have a Marti report.
Julian
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 192, Issue 2
Does anyone have any information on Pantera #5102?? My friend at Ford
John Clinard is looking for any information on this car for a friend of
his. His friend says he tried to get a Marti Report but they don't have
this car in their records.
Thanks.
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> 1. Tach & Speedo Mounting Options? (Mike Reilly)
> 2. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 3. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 4. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 5. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Mike Drew)
> 6. Tach & Speedo Mounting Options? (Larry Finch)
> 7. Re: Ouch. Bad press. (audionut at hushmail.com)
> 8. Re: Ouch. Bad press. (Pantdino)
> 9. Re: Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options. (Rob DuMoulin)
> 10. Need tach bulb sockets (Larry Finch)
> 11. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 12. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 13. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 14. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Mike Drew)
> 15. Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 16. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 17. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Charles McCall)
> 18. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Forest Goodhart)
> 19. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 20. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 21. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Mike Drew)
> 22. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Mike Drew)
> 23. Re: Need tach bulb sockets (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 24. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Thomas T?rnblom)
> 25. Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Finch)
> 26. Nut and spade connector for reverse switch (Ed Mendez)
> 27. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Julian Kift)
> 28. Re: Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE (Larry Stock)
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:15:51 +0000
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> Hi all. Like many of you I have removed my speedo and tach for
various reasons such as lightbulb replacement, speedo cable
adjustments, electrical connections on the back etc. I recently got my
tach out through the normal 1) remove driver?s seat, 2) lay on back on
floor, 3) jam my hands into the tiny places to get to the knurl nuts
holding the speedo/tach in place and then 4) removing tach or speedo
from front of dash. Some folks also remove the speedo just to get to
the tach knurl nuts on the tach. This is all especially fun with the
late model single pod dash. There?s got to be a better way??.
>
> I recently remembered when I owned my 80?s era Porsche 911s and I
always admired their great engineering. They used a simple rubber
gasket around all the instruments that allowed for easy push in/pull
out maintenance. I wonder, has anyone adapted this idea for the
Pantera? I have heard of folks experimenting with layers of tape
around the speedo or tach to provide a good friction fit to the
dashboard.
>
> I don?t take my speedo or tach out often but when I need to it?s
definitely a lot harder than my old Porsche 911sc. I did a bit of
quick research and found that pelican parts sells the Porsche 911
rubber instrument mounting gaskets for $12 and they are 115mm
diameter. This is slightly bigger than our Pantera instrument case
diameter. Not sure if it would work. Anyone ever try this approach
with good success?
>
> Attached pics for reference. Pelican parts link:
[2]https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=fr
ameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%2
6page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FS
uperCat%2F0804%2FPOR_0804_ELGAGE_pg2.htm%3Futm_source%3DSuperTech%23ite
m11
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Hi all. Like many of you I have removed my speedo and tach for
various
> reasons such as lightbulb replacement, speedo cable adjustments,
> electrical connections on the back etc. I recently got my tach out
> through the normal 1) remove driver's seat, 2) lay on back on
floor, 3)
> jam my hands into the tiny places to get to the knurl nuts holding
the
> speedo/tach in place and then 4) removing tach or speedo from front
of
> dash. Some folks also remove the speedo just to get to the tach
knurl
> nuts on the tach. This is all especially fun with the late model
> single pod dash. There's got to be a better way.......
>
>
> I recently remembered when I owned my 80's era Porsche 911s and I
> always admired their great engineering. They used a simple rubber
> gasket around all the instruments that allowed for easy push
in/pull
> out maintenance. I wonder, has anyone adapted this idea for the
> Pantera? I have heard of folks experimenting with layers of tape
> around the speedo or tach to provide a good friction fit to the
> dashboard.
>
>
> I don't take my speedo or tach out often but when I need to it's
> definitely a lot harder than my old Porsche 911sc. I did a bit of
> quick research and found that pelican parts sells the Porsche 911
> rubber instrument mounting gaskets for $12 and they are 115mm
> diameter. This is slightly bigger than our Pantera instrument case
> diameter. Not sure if it would work. Anyone ever try this
approach
> with good success?
>
>
> Attached pics for reference. Pelican parts link:
>
[1]https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=fr
>
ameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%2
>
6page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FS
>
uperCat%2F0804%2FPOR_0804_ELGAGE_pg2.htm%3Futm_source%3DSuperTech%23ite
> m11
>
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> References
>
> 1.
[3]https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi?action=fr
ameset&return-url=/cgi-bin/supertech/catalog.cgi%3Faction%3Dframeback%2
6page%3D90&catalog-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pelicanparts.com%2Fcatalog%2FS
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:39:29 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
> Message-ID: <F5C2174F-5A5C-47B5-9FBC-B0A9158872EB at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Chuck,
>
> FWIW what I did with my factory ANSA pipes was to cut back the pipes
a bit further, and fabricate a Y-shaped pipe of similar diameter made
of similar perforated tubing, then I packed the muffler thoroughly with
stainless steel muffler packing material (which I got from Howe Racing
I believe) and welded the tops of the mufflers back on.
>
> (You are supposed to do this surgery from above because it will leave
scars, which are invisible when the mufflers are mounted in the car).
>
> It worked great, but horsepower improvements were nit as great as I
would have hoped (only 12 hp) because the true restriction comes from
the small diameter of the resonator tips. Newer production ANSA
mufflers have no resonators in the tips for better flow (and Wilkinson
mufflers use resonators whose OD is unnoticeable greater than stock but
ID is MUCH greater than stock, for much better flow).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:09, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Dear Mike, Mike and Joe,
>>
>> I am in the middle of the muffler modification project as
described by Gerry Romack. Here is the link for his method;
>>
>>
[6]http://www.greatlakespantera.com/Pantera%20Muffler%20Modification%20
edited.pdf
>>
>>
>> I am attaching a few photos of my unfinished project.
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:34 PM
>> To: Rob DuMoulin
>> Cc: P - Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> That?s a super-easy one. Wilkinson GTS copy. Made of stainless
steel, it made 31hp more than factory ANSA GTS in a Dan Jones Dyno
test.
>>
>> Lori has them on her car, and they are fantastic. They still have
the GTS drone because the mufflers are made in the stock fashion, so I
am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them inside to get rid of it.
>>
>> Still, there is no finer system available for our cars IMHO.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On May 31, 2020, at 16:33, Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? 1488 is about to get an aluminum block 408 transplant. Trouble
is, it
>>> currently has Hall Pantera Big Bore headers and the stock mufflers.
The
>>> new engine will be pushing almost 600 horses and I know the stock
>>> exhaust will most likely erupt. What currently available options
exist
>>> that maintain a stock appearance?
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:39:29 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Chuck,
>
> FWIW what I did with my factory ANSA pipes was to cut back the pipes
a bit further, and fabricate a Y-shaped pipe of similar diameter made
of similar perforated tubing, then I packed the muffler thoroughly with
stainless steel muffler packing material (which I got from Howe Racing
I believe) and welded the tops of the mufflers back on.
>
> (You are supposed to do this surgery from above because it will leave
scars, which are invisible when the mufflers are mounted in the car).
>
> It worked great, but horsepower improvements were nit as great as I
would have hoped (only 12 hp) because the true restriction comes from
the small diameter of the resonator tips. Newer production ANSA
mufflers have no resonators in the tips for better flow (and Wilkinson
mufflers use resonators whose OD is unnoticeable greater than stock but
ID is MUCH greater than stock, for much better flow).
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:09, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Dear Mike, Mike and Joe,
>>
>> I am in the middle of the muffler modification project as
described by Gerry Romack. Here is the link for his method;
>>
>>
[10]http://www.greatlakespantera.com/Pantera%20Muffler%20Modification%2
0edited.pdf
>>
>>
>> I am attaching a few photos of my unfinished project.
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[11]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:34 PM
>> To: Rob DuMoulin
>> Cc: P - Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> That?s a super-easy one. Wilkinson GTS copy. Made of stainless
steel, it made 31hp more than factory ANSA GTS in a Dan Jones Dyno
test.
>>
>> Lori has them on her car, and they are fantastic. They still have
the GTS drone because the mufflers are made in the stock fashion, so I
am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them inside to get rid of it.
>>
>> Still, there is no finer system available for our cars IMHO.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On May 31, 2020, at 16:33, Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? 1488 is about to get an aluminum block 408 transplant. Trouble
is, it
>>> currently has Hall Pantera Big Bore headers and the stock mufflers.
The
>>> new engine will be pushing almost 600 horses and I know the stock
>>> exhaust will most likely erupt. What currently available options
exist
>>> that maintain a stock appearance?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:40:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Hahahah! She has two but doesn?t like to use them for some reason...
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:25, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper
for her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully
documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to
drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement
that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut
that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have
grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A
Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally
using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this
asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end
mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the
underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next project,
as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason
not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned
off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body
shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and
bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of
favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his
hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> A A >
>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso
>> <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>> A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust
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>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:40:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust options.
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> Hahahah! She has two but doesn?t like to use them for some reason...
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 07:25, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper
for her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall <[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully
documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to
drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement
that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut
that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have
grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A
Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally
using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this
asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end
mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the
underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next project,
as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason
not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned
off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body
shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and
bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of
favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his
hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> A A >
>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso
>> <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>> A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> A A > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:34 PM
>> A A > To: Rob DuMoulin <[3][5]rob at dumoulins.net>
>> A A > Cc: P - Mail List <[4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought - exhaust
>> options.
>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:43:06 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tach & Speedo Mounting Options?
> Message-ID: <9A0E5136-20A5-485E-83FC-F05CB5B06943 at aol.com>
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> Mike,
>
> Had to chuckle reading your post this morning. Like you and all other
owners, I have suffered through the tribulations of removing and
reinstalling the tach and speedometer. Those two little nuts on each
gauge bracket are maniacally designed to elicit words of frustration.
>
> With an enhanced inaccessibility due to some of the HVAC
modifications I did on 2511, I realized I had aggravated an already
challenging process.
>
> You mentioned resorting to just a friction mounting approach and that
is exactly what I did. Nothing as complex as wrapping
prone-to-deterioration tape or adapting a rubber gasket.
>
> I took my soldering gun and melted the two gauge housing edges at
12-3-6-9 o?clock. Cautious trial and error eventually found the sweet
spot between too tight and too loose. I have no fear of either gauge
rotating or popping out, but both can be easily pushed out after
threading a few fingers behind them.
>
> I have the early two pod dash which I am pretty sure is an ABS black
plastic. Don?t know if this approach works on the single pod dashes.
>
> If anyone needs two brackets and some retaining nuts, I?ve got a pair
available.
>
> ;-)
>
> YMMV
>
> Larry
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:01:08 -0700
> From: audionut at hushmail.com
> To: "P - Mail List" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> Message-ID: <20200601190108.491C1E078B at smtp.hushmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Ouch? Not at all. Let fools keep fools away from us and our
Panteras.
>
> We know what we have.
>
> Unrelenting demand for content on the interwebs means writers are
constantly dredging the bottom of the barrel just to have something
uploaded every day.
>
> It may be a bitter pill for some, but the truth is most people are
completely batshit crazy and proud of it. The web reflects this.
>
> Once this pill is swallowed then random idiocy becomes something to
be expected and life can be taken in stride much more easily.
>
>
>
> Sent using Hushmail
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>
>> On 5/31/2020 at 3:54 PM, "Rob DuMoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>
>> We made the naught list.
>>
>>
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>> /old-supercars-to-buy-used-on-the-cheap-and-some-to-avoid-at-all-
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:45:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: "will.kooiman at gmail.com" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> Message-ID: <363606040.1109834.1591047952513 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Re the Testarossa-? The steel studs holding the aluminum heads to the
block seize to the heads so it is impossible to repair the motor.? And
they are not available, obviously. Also, I believe it shares the
transaxle with the earlier car. The case cracks and the transaxle is
junk. Also not available, obviously.?
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; tipo874a at msn.com <tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 8:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
>
> He's also pretty far off on Vipers.
>
> How about this:? Most vipers are not driven, so the wheel bearings go
out (rust, etc.), brake fluid corrodes, head gaskets and timing chain
cover gaskets fail, and cost 4 figures to repair.? Nobody makes
replacement windshields, door gaskets, headlights.? The head gaskets on
Gen-1s used to be $1,000 for the set.
>
> Oh - and in stock trim, they get 20 mpg, so what's up with the fuel
costs concern?? Our mini Cooper gets low 20s.
>
> Don?t get me wrong.? I love my Gen-2, almost as much as I love my
Pantera.? I just think he's way off on the description of Viper
ownership.
>
> He's also way off on Testarossas.? I drove a 512 TR once, and loved
it.? Yes, the maintenance is high, but it's well worth it.? It's
certainly not in the "avoid at all costs" bucket.? It should be in the
"buy it if you can afford maintenance" bucket.
>
>
>
> ?On 5/31/20, 10:37 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Pantdino via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> ? ? ? Didn't even spend the time to find out what these many things
are that
> ? ? ? supposedly go wrong.
> ? ? ? A disgrace to journalism
> ? ? ? Jim
> ? ? ? -----Original Message-----
> ? ? ? From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> ? ? ? To: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> ? ? ? Cc: P - Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> ? ? ? Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 4:14 pm
> ? ? ? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> ? ? ? The worst article ever !!!!
> ? ? ? Leslie A. Gray
> ? ? ? > On May 31, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Rob DuMoulin
<[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
> ? ? ? wrote:
> ? ? ? >
> ? ? ? > i>>?? We made the naught list.
> ? ? ? >
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> ? ? ? om/
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> Re the Testarossa- The steel studs holding the aluminum heads to
the
> block seize to the heads so it is impossible to repair the motor.
And
> they are not available, obviously. Also, I believe it shares the
> transaxle with the earlier car. The case cracks and the transaxle
is
> junk. Also not available, obviously.
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; tipo874a at msn.com
<tipo874a at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 8:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> He's also pretty far off on Vipers.
> How about this: Most vipers are not driven, so the wheel bearings
go
> out (rust, etc.), brake fluid corrodes, head gaskets and timing
chain
> cover gaskets fail, and cost 4 figures to repair. Nobody makes
> replacement windshields, door gaskets, headlights. The head
gaskets on
> Gen-1s used to be $1,000 for the set.
> Oh - and in stock trim, they get 20 mpg, so what's up with the fuel
> costs concern? Our mini Cooper gets low 20s.
> Donat get me wrong. I love my Gen-2, almost as much as I love my
> Pantera. I just think he's way off on the description of Viper
> ownership.
> He's also way off on Testarossas. I drove a 512 TR once, and loved
> it. Yes, the maintenance is high, but it's well worth it. It's
> certainly not in the "avoid at all costs" bucket. It should be in
the
> "buy it if you can afford maintenance" bucket.
> i>>?On 5/31/20, 10:37 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Pantdino via
DeTomaso"
> <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Didn't even spend the time to find out what these many things
are
> that
> supposedly go wrong.
> A disgrace to journalism
> Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L GRAY <[3]tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: Rob DuMoulin <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: P - Mail List <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2020 4:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ouch. Bad press.
> The worst article ever !!!!
> Leslie A. Gray
>> On May 31, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Rob DuMoulin
> <[1][6]rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> i>>? We made the naught list.
>>
>
>
[1][2][7]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.thething
> s.c
> om/
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:55:11 -0400
> From: Rob DuMoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
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> Are you calling Mike a "Creeper". That's just wrong!
>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 10:25 AM Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a creeper for
her
>> birthday.A
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall
<[1]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> A A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
>> A A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew via
>> DeTomaso
>> A A <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> A A Joe,
>> A A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully
documented
>> in the
>> A A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at the PCNC
>> website). It
>> A A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to do it for
>> years now.
>> A A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car off to
drop
>> the oil
>> A A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing off the
>> emergency
>> A A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in replacement
that I
>> have
>> A A standing by) and removing the previously installed bolt-in
>> chassis
>> A A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and we cut
that
>> out and
>> A A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to have
grown
>> since it
>> A A was installed because it sure did not want to come out!A
Lots
>> of
>> A A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and finally
using
>> a
>> A A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get this
asimplea
>> piece
>> A A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor manas end
mill
>> (Harbor
>> A A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more nicely now.
>> A A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the
underside
>> of the
>> A A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a few
days
>> before we
>> A A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The parking
>> brake hasnat
>> A A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next
project, as
>> we have
>> A A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas no reason
not
>> to
>> A A implement it.
>> A A Lori worked hard today!
>> A A Good times in the garage!
>> A A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the photos
you
>> can see
>> A A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the paint burned
off
>> long
>> A A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with a body
shop
>> offered
>> A A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to cut them
>> apart and
>> A A fix them first.A He needs to have his rear axles and
bearings
>> replaced
>> A A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange of
favors.
>> Just
>> A A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to bring his
hub
>> A A carriers up here....
>> A A Mike
>> A A Sent from my iPad
>> A A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
>> A A <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> A A >
>> A A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly
appreciated
>> A A > Joe
>> A A >
>> A A > -----Original Message-----
>> A A > From: DeTomaso
>> <[2][4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
>> A A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> A A > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:34 PM
>> A A > To: Rob DuMoulin <[3][5]rob at dumoulins.net>
>> A A > Cc: P - Mail List
<[4][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought -
exhaust
>> options.
>> A A >
>> A A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild them . .
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> Are you calling Mike a "Creeper". That's just wrong!
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 10:25 AM Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A Mike,any woman willing to get under the car deserves a
creeper
> for her
> A A birthday.A
> A A Jeff
> A A 6559
> A A On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:37 PM Curt Hall
> <[1][2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> A A wrote:
> A A A AA A Looking Good Lori, You go Girl!
> A A A AA A On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 09:06:27 PM PDT, Mike Drew
> via
> A A A DeTomaso
> A A A AA A <[2][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A Joe,
> A A A AA A When the time comes the muffler mods will be fully
> documented
> A A A in the
> A A A AA A PCNC newsletter (which is free for all to view at
the
> PCNC
> A A A website). It
> A A A AA A might be some time thoughawe have been meaning to
do
> it for
> A A A years now.
> A A A AA A Today was spent tearing the underside of Lorias car
> off to drop
> A A A the oil
> A A A AA A pan to repair a persistent leak. It involves sawing
> off the
> A A A emergency
> A A A AA A brake bracket (Dennis Quella sells a bolt-in
> replacement that I
> A A A have
> A A A AA A standing by) and removing the previously installed
> bolt-in
> A A A chassis
> A A A AA A crossmember. The original is welded in (dumb) and
we
> cut that
> A A A out and
> A A A AA A replaced it years ago. This bolt-in one appears to
> have grown
> A A A since it
> A A A AA A was installed because it sure did not want to come
> out!AA Lots
> A A A of
> A A A AA A beating and whanging and tugging and prying, and
> finally using
> A A A a
> A A A AA A broomstick and a BFH from above enabled us to get
this
> asimplea
> A A A piece
> A A A AA A out. It was subsequently treated with the poor
manas
> end mill
> A A A (Harbor
> A A A AA A Freight angle grinder) and will go in much more
nicely
> now.
> A A A AA A Finally we were able to drop the pan, clean off the
> underside
> A A A of the
> A A A AA A block and tap the pan rails flat again. It may be a
> few days
> A A A before we
> A A A AA A install the new gaskets and reinstall the pan. The
> parking
> A A A brake hasnat
> A A A AA A been hooked up for years, but that will be the next
> project, as
> A A A we have
> A A A AA A new cables and all the needed hardware so thereas
no
> reason not
> A A A to
> A A A AA A implement it.
> A A A AA A Lori worked hard today!
> A A A AA A Good times in the garage!
> A A A AA A Circling back around to the topic at hand, in the
> photos you
> A A A can see
> A A A AA A her Wilkinson exhaustsathey work great but the
paint
> burned off
> A A A long
> A A A AA A ago so they look sort of ghetto. A PCNC member with
a
> body shop
> A A A offered
> A A A AA A to ceramic coat them and paint them but I want to
cut
> them
> A A A apart and
> A A A AA A fix them first.AA He needs to have his rear axles
and
> bearings
> A A A replaced
> A A A AA A which Iam equipped to do, so it will be an exchange
of
> favors.
> A A A Just
> A A A AA A waiting for him to get a break in his schedule to
> bring his hub
> A A A AA A carriers up here....
> A A A AA A Mike
> A A A AA A Sent from my iPad
> A A A AA A > On May 31, 2020, at 18:51, Joseph F Byrd, Jr
> A A A AA A <[1][3][4]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > i>>?Some pics of that project would be greatly
> appreciated
> A A A AA A > Joe
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > -----Original Message-----
> A A A AA A > From: DeTomaso
> A A A <[2][4][5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
> A A A AA A Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> A A A AA A > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:34 PM
> A A A AA A > To: Rob DuMoulin <[3][5][6]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A A A AA A > Cc: P - Mail List
> <[4][6][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A A AA A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Collective wisdom sought
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> A A A options.
> A A A AA A >
> A A A AA A > . . . I am about to cut hers apart and rebuild
them
> . .
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 18:56:59 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> ?All,
>
> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
the tachometer and speedometer.
>
> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
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>
> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:24:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
> Message-ID: <2F3BEEC3-2CD4-48EA-9729-154A75659EF9 at aol.com>
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>
> Larry,
>
> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to
both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox).
The rest use a single wire.
>
> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
one-wire sockets if that will do.
>
> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from
your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:24:55 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> Larry,
>
> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to
both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox).
The rest use a single wire.
>
> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
one-wire sockets if that will do.
>
> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from
your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:35:20 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> Larry,
>
> A thought. The Hall Pantera replacement ammeter uses a plastic case
so it has to have a two-wire bulb socket. It probably comes with the
gauge but you could try calling them to see if they sell them
separately?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:35:20 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> Larry,
>
> A thought. The Hall Pantera replacement ammeter uses a plastic case
so it has to have a two-wire bulb socket. It probably comes with the
gauge but you could try calling them to see if they sell them
separately?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?All,
>>
>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights in
the tachometer and speedometer.
>>
>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:14:32 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Mike,
>
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also
a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
grounded to the chassis.
>
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
only supplied through the dimmer.
>
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>
> UPDATE?-
>
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually
two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used
to create the two pin versions I need.
>
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 06:00:57 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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>
> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift with
lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
>
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
years ago.
>
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>
> Thomas
>
>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> ?Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered to
both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via fusebox).
The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from
your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
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gizmo._______________________________________________
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 09:43:39 +0530
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Email List Address For Posting
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin you
have
> to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is
running
> hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by 15C... you
won't
> have that option if you ground the gauges.
>
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
>>
>> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
stability
>> of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift with lights
on and
>> off due to slight shifts in the ground reference.
>>
>> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
years ago.
>>
>> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso <
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>>
>>> ?Larry,
>>>
>>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered
to
>> both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via
fusebox). The
>> rest use a single wire.
>>>
>>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
one-wire
>> sockets if that will do.
>>>
>>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
gauge
>> and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing from your
gauge,
>> be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your harness?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
in
>> the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>>
>>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
ground.
>>>>
>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
cannot
>> find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
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>> gizmo._______________________________________________
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> -------------- next part --------------
> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin
you
> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine
is
> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.A
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas TAP:rnblom <[1]thomas at hax.se>
> wrote:
>
> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground
reference.
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
> years ago.
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
> Thomas
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> i>>?Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered
> to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via
> fusebox).A The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets?A I have plenty of spare
> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if itas missing
from
> your gauge, be sure to check to see if itas stuck to your
harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> i>>?All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
> in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
> ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
> cannot find them on Steveas website but havenat made any calls
yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> To: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Larry,All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator,
the early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and
the other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for
each front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If
using LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to
connect both front lamps to the same terminal.Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also
a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
grounded to the chassis.
>
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and it
needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground both
only supplied through the dimmer.
>
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>
> UPDATE?-
>
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually
two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used
to create the two pin versions I need.
>
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Larry,
>
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the
early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the
other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each
front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using
LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
>
> Forest
>
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is
also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and
rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
> UPDATEa-
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two
more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:55:18 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant
the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I
re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input
to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
installed the diode?s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner
who is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need
will be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the
1 pin versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting
circuit fed only through the dimmer.
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Larry,
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the
early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the
other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each
front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using
LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect
both front lamps to the same terminal.
>> Forest
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also
a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually
two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used
to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
> function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher
meant
> the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so
I
> re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive
input
> to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
> installed the diode`s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner
who
> is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need
will
> be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1
pin
> versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting
circuit
> fed only through the dimmer.
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
wrote:
>
> Larry,
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the
early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the
other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each
front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using
LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
> Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is
also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and
rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
> UPDATE---
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two
more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:55:18 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher meant
the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so I
re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive input
to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
installed the diode?s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner
who is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need
will be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the
1 pin versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting
circuit fed only through the dimmer.
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Larry,
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the
early ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the
other to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each
front signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using
LEDs in the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect
both front lamps to the same terminal.
>> Forest
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also
a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually
two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used
to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Forest,
>
> I actually already had two diodes to retain the indicator light
> function. The conversion I did on replacing the four pin flasher
meant
> the replacement 3 pin flasher would no longer provide a ground, so
I
> re-purposed the orange wire to a chassis ground. For the positive
input
> to the indicator I tapped into the emergency flasher harness and
> installed the diode`s in those taps.
>
> Mike mentioned he had some of the one pins and I have another owner
who
> is looking for what he is pretty sure he has, so I think my need
will
> be filled through one of those two sources. I can cannibalize the 1
pin
> versions to create two pin versions without any effort.
>
> Again, this is by design requirement a fully isolated lighting
circuit
> fed only through the dimmer.
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
wrote:
>
> Larry,
> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator, the
early
> ones with 4 prong flasher had one side to hot from fuse 8 and the
other
> to ground through the flasher. Later ones have one pin for each
front
> signal lamp and ground through the opposite side lamp. If using
LEDs in
> the front you need to ground one pin and use diodes to connect both
> front lamps to the same terminal.
> Forest
> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is
also a
> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and
rewired
> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
> grounded to the chassis.
> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it
> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both
> only supplied through the dimmer.
> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and
> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will
> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
> UPDATE---
> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal
> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two
more
> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
> create the two pin versions I need.
> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
> Larry
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 22:15:30 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID: <D6C902C5-3A83-492D-9489-F508F3235676 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 21:23, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? Larry,
>>
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator...
>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification Forest! I stared right at it and
failed to notice the turn signal light had two prongs.
>
> Larry?I can cannibalize a spare fuel gauge to send you a couple of
one-prong sockets if your need is truly desperate. However the sockets
are part of the gauge assembly and that renders the gauge only partly
useable to someone unless they are replacing an existing stock gauge
and can swap the sockets over.
>
> I would urge you to exhaust other avenues first. I suspect these
things can be bought quite cheaply?
>
> Mike
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is
also a
>> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
>> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and
rewired
>> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
>> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
>> grounded to the chassis.
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it
>> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both
>> only supplied through the dimmer.
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and
>> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will
>> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>> UPDATEa-
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal
>> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two
more
>> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
>> create the two pin versions I need.
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 22:15:30 -0700
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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>
>
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 21:23, Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? Larry,
>>
>> All had a two pin socket for the turn signal dash indicator...
>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification Forest! I stared right at it and
failed to notice the turn signal light had two prongs.
>
> Larry?I can cannibalize a spare fuel gauge to send you a couple of
one-prong sockets if your need is truly desperate. However the sockets
are part of the gauge assembly and that renders the gauge only partly
useable to someone unless they are replacing an existing stock gauge
and can swap the sockets over.
>
> I would urge you to exhaust other avenues first. I suspect these
things can be bought quite cheaply?
>
> Mike
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 08:14:59 PM PDT, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is
also a
>> two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
>> originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and
rewired
>> to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
>> through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
>> grounded to the chassis.
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it
>> needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both
>> only supplied through the dimmer.
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and
>> speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will
>> be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>> UPDATEa-
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal
>> pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually two
more
>> single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used to
>> create the two pin versions I need.
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:12:59 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Email List Address For Posting
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Larry Finch
> <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets
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>
> :)
>
> Some black tape covering the face of the gauge works too :D
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 06:13, skrev Charles McCall:
>> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin
you
>> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine is
>> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
>> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.
>>
>> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se
>> <[184]mailto:thomas at hax.se>> wrote:
>>
>> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
>> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
>> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground
reference.
>>
>> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
>> years ago.
>>
>> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <[185]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>:
>>>
>>> ?Larry,
>>>
>>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is
>> soldered to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and
>> battery (via fusebox).? The rest use a single wire.
>>>
>>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets?? I have plenty of spare
>> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>>
>>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
>> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it?s missing
>> from your gauge, be sure to check to see if it?s stuck to your
>> harness?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> <[186]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?All,
>>>>
>>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator
>> lights in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>>
>>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
>> ground.
>>>>
>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know.
>> I cannot find them on Steve?s website but haven?t made any calls
yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic
>> gizmo._______________________________________________
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> :)
> Some black tape covering the face of the gauge works too :D
> Thomas
>
> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 06:13, skrev Charles McCall:
>
> This is true, Thomas, but if you do this you eliminate the margin
you
> have to reduce your engine temp. Stuck in traffic and your engine
is
> running hot? Turn off your lights and your water temp goes down by
> 15C... you won't have that option if you ground the gauges.
> (Ok, maybe I've been in this meeting a little too long...)
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:31 AM Thomas Toernblom <[1]thomas at hax.se>
> wrote:
>
> Running a separate ground to the lights is good for for readout
> stability of the temp and oil pressure gauges. They tend to shift
> with lights on and off due to slight shifts in the ground
reference.
> I found two spade sockets at a local alternator repair shop many
> years ago.
> I would assume they could be found on EBay.
> Thomas
>>> 2 juni 2020 kl. 04:25 skrev Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Only the GEN light uses a two-wire socket. A resistor is soldered
> to both tabs, and wires lead to the alternator and battery (via
> fusebox). The rest use a single wire.
>>
>> Why do you need two two-wire sockets? I have plenty of spare
> one-wire sockets if that will do.
>>
>> Have you lost yours? Sometimes people unplug the socket from the
> gauge and leave it attached to the harness, so if it's missing
from
> your gauge, be sure to check to see if it's stuck to your
harness?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 18:57, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I am in need of two bulb sockets as are used for indicator lights
> in the tachometer and speedometer.
>>>
>>> I need the two pin version so there is no connection to chassis
> ground.
>>>
>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has a pair or knows of a source, please let me know. I
> cannot find them on Steve's website but haven't made any calls
yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:28:06 +0200
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <thomas at hax.se>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Looks like this might be a European thing.
>
> I can easily locate lots of them here, but not so easy in the US.
>
> Here's a Ba9s style one from amazon UK:
>
[203]https://www.amazon.co.uk/INSTRUMENT-HOLDER-SINGLE-CONTACT-170790/d
p/B01N8TAT4Z
>
> Thomas
>
>> Den 2020-06-02 kl. 05:14, skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso:
>> Mike,
>>
>> On 2511 the turn signal bulb in the middle of the tachometer is also
a two pin socket. That may be due to the early four pin flasher 2511
originally came with; it has been converted to a three pin and rewired
to retain its function. That bulb originally received its ground
through the four pin flasher but with the conversion it is simply
grounded to the chassis.
>>
>> To satisfy your curiosity, I am using a new solid-state dimmer and
it needs to be wired as its own isolated circuit with hot and ground
both only supplied through the dimmer.
>>
>> The two sockets I seek will be used for lighting in the tachometer
and speedometer and rather than adapt a later design socket, the task
will be much easier just finding the two pin version which I know to
exist.
>>
>> UPDATE?-
>>
>> I spent some more time and finally figured out how to remove the
metal pins from the plastic sockets, which are the same, so actually
two more single pin versions plus my two could be cannibalized and used
to create the two pin versions I need.
>>
>> Mike, my address is in the roster. ;-)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 00:56:07 -0700
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket
gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has
collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search
term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries
them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one
who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often
gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to
those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days to
see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it
and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 07:47:33 -0500
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Nut and spade connector for reverse switch
> Message-ID: <FF4925FE-3B18-4FBA-B26A-B85DC0FAD09B at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Does anybody have or know where I can get a nut and spade connector
for my reverse switch? Anyone know what size the threads are? 6mm?
>
> Thanks Ed
>
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> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 14:35:50 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
> Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
> Message-ID:
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>
> VDO gauge bulb socket?
>
>
[206]https://www.jbugs.com/product/V600819.html?utm_content=shopping&gc
lid=EAIaIQobChMItZGjpqzj6QIVlxatBh22JgeQEAQYDSABEgIrw_D_BwE
>
>
[207]https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vdo-5166/accessories-16449/ac
cessories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---
bulbs---light-kits-17808/407d7643107c/vdo-gauge-replacement-bulb-socket
/600840/4774508
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:56 AM
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
>
> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket
gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has
collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different search
term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries
them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one
who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often
gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to
those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days to
see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it
and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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> VDO gauge bulb socket?
>
>
[1]https://www.jbugs.com/product/V600819.html?utm_content=shopping&gcli
> d=EAIaIQobChMItZGjpqzj6QIVlxatBh22JgeQEAQYDSABEgIrw_D_BwE
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>
[2]https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vdo-5166/accessories-16449/acce
>
ssories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---bu
>
lbs---light-kits-17808/407d7643107c/vdo-gauge-replacement-bulb-socket/6
> 00840/4774508
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
> Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:56 AM
> To: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
>
> Mike,
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket
> gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he
has
> collected.
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different
search
> term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a match.
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries
them.
> And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one who
has
> an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often gathered
> just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to those
in
> need. It's a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I'll give it a couple days
to
> see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg
it
> and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
> And so it goes......
> Larry
>
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> 2.
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cessories---interior-16768/gauges-16577/gauge-components-16833/gauge---
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> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 07:45:55 -0700
> From: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address For
> Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need tach bulb sockets UPDATE
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> I have a few of these I could have sent with your throttle Cable
since the shipping costs more than these terminals
> 13006B Socket instr/gauges dual term. @$10.15 ea
> Larry
>
> ?On 6/2/20, 12:56 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Finch via
DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Roger that. My other potential source is running full aftermarket
gauges and he thinks he has some of the sockets from the parts he has
collected.
>
> Thomas, Thanks for the link to the socket. That is a different
search term than I have been trying and it certainly looks to be a
match.
>
> I have also sent a note to Jon Haas to see if he perhaps carries
them. And there is always a vendor, but I know I am not the only one
who has an eclectic collection of parts from various sources often
gathered just so they fell into good hands for future distribution to
those in need. It?s a Family thing. ;-)
>
> I posted on the DeTomaso forum also so I?ll give it a couple days
to see what turns up, but if need be I imagine I could Rube Goldberg it
and solder wires directly to the short stub on the one pin version.
>
> And so it goes......
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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