[DeTomaso] Fwd: my friend NRE Pantera

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 2 21:52:53 EDT 2020 

Mike,

Yes, I later found reference to Dean selling off his front clip doors etc. in converting his 1984 GT5 to fiberglass. If I recall he had problems getting a title in the UK and it ended up as a race car and was ultimately the Group 5 Pantera that Dave Kanahale owned (Chassis #9313) and which he sold to Spain not too long ago.

Julian

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: my friend NRE Pantera

Julian,

Believe it or not, that is a different car. Dean Martin had almost the same story.  He was driving along and spotted a wing sticking up from the sand alongside an auto repair shop—nothing else was visible. He thought it was a Countach. He went in and asked to excavate it. The people there didn’t know what it was. It was a GT5, and I think it was red. He was able to get it and export it to England (not an easy task). His had little if any rust, if I recall.

Mike

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On Jun 2, 2020, at 18:04, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:


Mike,

The 'free' Saudi Pantera found by Mark McFegan was chassis #9189, it turned up back in Saudi around July 2018 as a recently purchased silver chassis, so I don't think it was the chassis that Nelson Racing(NRE)  used. I couldn't get a chassis number from them at the time, but it was definitely a 9000 series and they cut all the internal sheet metal out and put it in the dumpster! My suspicion was (and still is) that it is 9103 that had sold not long before on eBay as it had group 4 flares similar to that which the NRE chassis caries.

Julian


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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: my friend NRE Pantera

All,

I bet this is Dean Martin’s old car.

(No, not the singer, but the Englishman of the same name who discovered a factory GT5 buried up to its wing in a sand pile in Saudi Arabia, got it for free (!) then brought it home to England, screwed it all up turning it into a wannabe race car, crashed it, brought it to California when he moved to the USA, had Don Byars start to fix it for him, then skipped town and abandoned the car, leaving a huge unpaid bill.....)

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> On Jun 2, 2020, at 14:00, Ed Grammens <edgrammens at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This is a Nelson Racing Engines project.  Apparently, the original owner dropped the project and they were trying to sell it to a new buyer, but they conditioned it on Nelson finishing the project.
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> https://www.thedrive.com/tuned-af/17106/theres-an-unfinished-de-tomaso-pantera-project-with-a-twin-turbo-windsor-v-8-for-sale
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> https://www.facebook.com/nelsonracingengines/posts/1534547353249579
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> https://pantera.infopop.cc/topic/nelson-racing-engines-building-pantera
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>
> Ed
> 4417
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> On 6/2/20, 1:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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>    Guys,
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>    Mike
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   Mike,

   Yes, I later found reference to Dean selling off his front clip doors
   etc. in converting his 1984 GT5 to fiberglass. If I recall he had
   problems getting a title in the UK and it ended up as a race car and
   was ultimately the Group 5 Pantera that Dave Kanahale owned (Chassis
   #9313) and which he sold to Spain not too long ago.

   Julian
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   From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:18 PM
   To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: Ed Grammens <edgrammens at gmail.com>; De Tomaso Forum
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: my friend NRE Pantera

   Julian,
   Believe it or not, that is a different car. Dean Martin had almost the
   same story.  He was driving along and spotted a wing sticking up from
   the sand alongside an auto repair shop--nothing else was visible. He
   thought it was a Countach. He went in and asked to excavate it. The
   people there didn't know what it was. It was a GT5, and I think it was
   red. He was able to get it and export it to England (not an easy task).
   His had little if any rust, if I recall.
   Mike
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     On Jun 2, 2020, at 18:04, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:

   Mike,
   The 'free' Saudi Pantera found by Mark McFegan was chassis #9189, it
   turned up back in Saudi around July 2018 as a recently purchased silver
   chassis, so I don't think it was the chassis that Nelson Racing(NRE)
   used. I couldn't get a chassis number from them at the time, but it was
   definitely a 9000 series and they cut all the internal sheet metal out
   and put it in the dumpster! My suspicion was (and still is) that it is
   9103 that had sold not long before on eBay as it had group 4 flares
   similar to that which the NRE chassis caries.
   Julian
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   Cc: De Tomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: my friend NRE Pantera

   All,
   I bet this is Dean Martin's old car.
   (No, not the singer, but the Englishman of the same name who discovered
   a factory GT5 buried up to its wing in a sand pile in Saudi Arabia, got
   it for free (!) then brought it home to England, screwed it all up
   turning it into a wannabe race car, crashed it, brought it to
   California when he moved to the USA, had Don Byars start to fix it for
   him, then skipped town and abandoned the car, leaving a huge unpaid
   bill.....)
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Jun 2, 2020, at 14:00, Ed Grammens <edgrammens at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > This is a Nelson Racing Engines project.  Apparently, the original
   owner dropped the project and they were trying to sell it to a new
   buyer, but they conditioned it on Nelson finishing the project.
   >
   >
   [2]https://www.thedrive.com/tuned-af/17106/theres-an-unfinished-de-toma
   so-pantera-project-with-a-twin-turbo-windsor-v-8-for-sale
   >
   >
   [3]https://www.facebook.com/nelsonracingengines/posts/1534547353249579
   >
   >
   [4]https://pantera.infopop.cc/topic/nelson-racing-engines-building-pant
   era
   >
   >
   > Ed
   > 4417
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   > On 6/2/20, 1:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   >    Guys,
   >
   >    Check out this latest addition to the registry. Apparently it's
   made from a Pantera body and custom everything else. Does anybody know
   this car?
   >
   >    Mike
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   3. https://www.facebook.com/nelsonracingengines/posts/1534547353249579
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