[DeTomaso] Ares 2021 Panther

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Wed Jul 22 15:07:13 EDT 2020


3 D printing limits are moving at a rapid rate and its not just trim pieces. Mahle has printed a few sets of PISTONS. They installed the lightweight printed aluminum pistons in a turbo-Porsche engine and ran it on a dyno for hours, following Porsche's testing regime. No failures. A bit too expensive for today but who knows about tomorrow?
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2020 6:49 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ares 2021 Panther

+1 for this.  The Collier museum is more or less an invitation-only
display for the collection, and the only reason I saw it was I knew
"the guy" who ran the machine shop staff.  All the cars on display
were at least $500k and above ranging from 19th century examples to
today and priceless by anyone's appraisal.  Vertical and horizontal
mills, lathes, microcasting, there just didn't seem to be any barriers
to keep these one-of-a-kind examples in operating condition.

That was 20 years ago and they were already very advanced in CNC.
Materials are getting better and even now you can 3D print something
up as a casting blank and pour your own housings, but you kind of need
the additional machine equipment for finishing.  It's getting less
exclusive though.  Maybe in 20 years we can build our own rear
uprights from scratch.

sean

On 7/22/20, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I share your concern about replacement parts for such a low production car.
> However those that can afford these cars generally are not limited on
> discretionary income.
>
> 3-D scanners and metal powder 3-D printers are already quite viable and can
> only be expected to become more main stream, efficient and cheaper. There
> will be specialists in the 3-D printing industry that will specialize in
> replicating unobtainable automotive parts for those that have the finances.
> Even broken or worn parts can be scanned and digitally restored and once the
> printing file is created it’s forever available just as a fender buck or an
> exhaust header jig currently allows repeated duplications.
>
> Where there is technology and the will, a way will be found.
>
> Remember when they started putting computers in all the cars and we thought
> hot rodding was dead?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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   3 D printing limits are moving at a rapid rate and its not just trim
   pieces. Mahle has printed a few sets of PISTONS. They installed the
   lightweight printed aluminum pistons in a turbo-Porsche engine and ran
   it on a dyno for hours, following Porsche's testing regime. No
   failures. A bit too expensive for today but who knows about tomorrow?
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
   To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2020 6:49 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ares 2021 Panther
   +1 for this.  The Collier museum is more or less an invitation-only
   display for the collection, and the only reason I saw it was I knew
   "the guy" who ran the machine shop staff.  All the cars on display
   were at least $500k and above ranging from 19th century examples to
   today and priceless by anyone's appraisal.  Vertical and horizontal
   mills, lathes, microcasting, there just didn't seem to be any barriers
   to keep these one-of-a-kind examples in operating condition.
   That was 20 years ago and they were already very advanced in CNC.
   Materials are getting better and even now you can 3D print something
   up as a casting blank and pour your own housings, but you kind of need
   the additional machine equipment for finishing.  It's getting less
   exclusive though.  Maybe in 20 years we can build our own rear
   uprights from scratch.
   sean
   On 7/22/20, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   > John,
   >
   > I share your concern about replacement parts for such a low
   production car.
   > However those that can afford these cars generally are not limited on
   > discretionary income.
   >
   > 3-D scanners and metal powder 3-D printers are already quite viable
   and can
   > only be expected to become more main stream, efficient and cheaper.
   There
   > will be specialists in the 3-D printing industry that will specialize
   in
   > replicating unobtainable automotive parts for those that have the
   finances.
   > Even broken or worn parts can be scanned and digitally restored and
   once the
   > printing file is created itas forever available just as a fender buck
   or an
   > exhaust header jig currently allows repeated duplications.
   >
   > Where there is technology and the will, a way will be found.
   >
   > Remember when they started putting computers in all the cars and we
   thought
   > hot rodding was dead?
   >
   > Larry
   >
   >
   >
   > Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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