[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 187, Issue 26

[owen]

Very interesting the main reason for using Evan's is long term corrosion inhibitor .Not boiling at around 100c depending on pressure of course wont stop engine overheating but still an advantage to not boil over so long as you manage the tempOwenTSent from Samsung tablet.
-------- Original message --------From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> Date: 02/02/2020  17:13  (GMT+00:00) To: owen <owen at tadhgcooke.com>, Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 187, Issue 26 

You can save yourself some work;




https://www.evanscoolant.com/faq/about-flammability/





Evans is mostly a mix of ethylene and polypropylene glycols, not significantly different than your regular antifreeze mixes, minus the absence of water. Straight water has a higher heat capacity than Evans or water + Antifreeze mixes. Glycols are used to provide
 freeze protection and antifreeze mixes include corrosion inhibitors. The boiling point of glycols is higher than water (or mixtures) so yes Evans can claim the vehicle won't boil over with water less coolant, but think about that for a moment... the engine
 is still running at that temperature, just the coolant isn't boiling, so in reality your fail safe of steam / boiling over to tell you have a problem has been eliminated! Damage is still occurring to your engine from running at elevated temperature! Evans
 evens say on their website the gauge temp may be higher! 



IMO Evans is basically a great marketing exercise to alleviate you from some of
your wallet contents and nothing more. If you
have an inherent over heating problem, spend
your $$ to fix that by adding more cooling capacity (larger or more efficient radiator), move more coolant around (high volume water pump or overdrive pulley) etc., but Evans doesn't
 fix anything, it's a band aid approach that helps mask it!


Evans should not be used in a vehicle to be used on track for the same reasons
traditional glycols are not recommended as they leave a 'oily' slick residue if spilled.


On the discussion of aluminum vs. copper I run Fluidyine aluminum radiators, but it is worth mentioning that many
 aluminum radiator failures are due to simple galvanic corrosion, thus it is well worth using a
sacrificial lead anode in a mixed metals cooling system.




Julian 







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Never heard of that risk but I will test the ignition temp of the stuff and report back


Owen


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   Very interesting the main reason for using Evan's is long term
   corrosion inhibitor .

   Not boiling at around 100c depending on pressure of course wont stop
   engine overheating but still an advantage to not boil over so long as
   you manage the temp

   Owen

   T

   Sent from Samsung tablet.

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Date: 02/02/2020 17:13 (GMT+00:00)
   To: owen <owen at tadhgcooke.com>, Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>,
   Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 187, Issue 26

   You can save yourself some work;

   [1]https://www.evanscoolant.com/faq/about-flammability/

   Evans is mostly a mix of ethylene and polypropylene glycols, not
   significantly different than your regular antifreeze mixes, minus the
   absence of water. Straight water has a higher heat capacity than Evans
   or water + Antifreeze mixes. Glycols are used to provide freeze
   protection and antifreeze mixes include corrosion inhibitors. The
   boiling point of glycols is higher than water (or mixtures) so yes
   Evans can claim the vehicle won't boil over with water less coolant,
   but think about that for a moment... the engine is still running at
   that temperature, just the coolant isn't boiling, so in reality your
   fail safe of steam / boiling over to tell you have a problem has been
   eliminated! Damage is still occurring to your engine from running at
   elevated temperature! Evans evens say on their website the gauge temp
   may be higher!

   IMO Evans is basically a great marketing exercise to alleviate you from
   some of your wallet contents and nothing more. If you have an inherent
   over heating problem, spend your $$ to fix that by adding more
   cooling capacity (larger or more efficient radiator), move more coolant
   around (high volume water pump or overdrive pulley) etc., but Evans
   doesn't fix anything, it's a band aid approach that helps mask it!

   Evans should not be used in a vehicle to be used on track for the same
   reasons traditional glycols are not recommended as they leave a 'oily'
   slick residue if spilled.

   On the discussion of aluminum vs. copper I run Fluidyine aluminum
   radiators, but it is worth mentioning that many aluminum radiator
   failures are due to simple galvanic corrosion, thus it is well worth
   using a sacrificial lead anode in a mixed metals cooling system.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   owen <owen at tadhgcooke.com>
   Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 2:03 AM
   To: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>; Ken Green
   <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 187, Issue 26

   Never heard of that risk but I will test the ignition temp of the stuff
   and report back
   Owen
   Sent from Samsung tablet.

References

   1. https://www.evanscoolant.com/faq/about-flammability/