[DeTomaso] Electric anyone?

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 23 23:39:37 EDT 2020 

There was a recent episode of Mike Brewers World of Cars (Season 1 episode 6 "EV the Silent Killer") I watched where he visited a SoCal shop retrofitting Beetle and Porsche chassis' with a Tesla motor and battery pack. All the components were pre-installed on a purpose made sub frame and just bolted up.

Julian
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When I attended the Rennsport reunion in 2018 there was a company that had designed an electric motor that was fitted between the motor and transmission and the battery packs were placed up front. Very sanitary set up. I could see how something like that could be adapted to the Pantera. I don’t think even the engineers at Tesla could come up with a way to adapt the system from a donor car. There just wouldn’t be any place to adapt the Pantera’s chassis to accommodate the battery pack from most of the possible donor electric cars on the market with the exception of a Koinsenegg which would be just stupid or I suppose a you could make a custom battery pack.

rimovp at gmail.com



> On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Matt Wells <nwpantera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>    All right let's juice up this forum! Hope you are all doing as well as
>   can be expected. My mind tends to wander to unknown places lately...
>   I've been seeing a trend that's growing and that is converting ICE cars
>   to electric.
>   Does anyone have any thoughts on converting a Pantera?
>   Stop reading now if you don't want to hear any more of this nonsense.
>   Still here? Then here's some of my thoughts.
>   Has it been done yet? I'd be surprised if somebody has not yet
>   attempted it. If not it will surely be done at some point in the
>   future.
>   I know what you're thinking. Sacrilege!
>   The very heart of the Pantera is that loud and proud rumbly V8 planted
>   squarely in the middle.
>   That's the way it was designed and that is what gives it that muscle
>   car heritage combined with sexy aggressive Italian styling.
>   The confluence of the two makes the car uniquely different and
>   desirable. It's heritage is firmly embedded in automotive history never
>   to be repeated.
>   HOWEVER!
>   I know it could be done with components available today for a
>   "reasonable" cost which is going to become even cheaper in the
>   immediate future.
>   Which company or vendor will be the first to change with the times and
>   offer an electric conversion kit?
>   Who will have the title of owning the worlds first electric powered
>   Pantera?
>   The benefits of electric power in cars are well documented. The
>   negatives of ICE as well. Maintenance,gas,oils,and exhaust emissions
>   would all be virtually eliminated.
>   I also understand electric power does not grow on trees and it's
>   sources and means of production are questionable and need to be
>   improved upon. But that's another discussion.
>   My only experience,besides a golf cart, of actually driving an electric
>   car was a go kart and it was, well in a word, awesome!
>   The feeling of instant torque was so different than anything I'd
>   experienced before and I liked it.
>   What if there was a way to convert to electric with the ability to go
>   back to the ICE in the future if so desired?
>   That would be ideal but more challenging. It would also attract more
>   conversions and probably be more widely accepted by the gearhead
>   community.
>   If it meant no going back could I live with the decision?
>   There of course would be obstacles to overcome and limited range is
>   always an issue with batteries.
>   When a stock body Pantera is altered to reflect the owners taste I
>   usually cringe.
>   If the change is on the inside I usually don't have an issue, as long
>   as it works better and retains the original body lines.
>   There's always going to be pro's and con's with either power plant.
>   I'd have to wire up some speakers to mimic the missing V8 rumble!A
>   How would I set off car alarms?
>   Heck maybe I wouldn't miss it and could converse quietly while
>   listening to smooth jazz as I silently carve the canyon roads on my way
>   to the nearest charging station!
>   Flame suit and mask on,
>   Matt
>   P.S. Thanks for your service Kurt!
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   There was a recent episode of Mike Brewers World of Cars (Season 1
   episode 6 "EV the Silent Killer") I watched where he visited a SoCal
   shop retrofitting Beetle and Porsche chassis' with a Tesla motor and
   battery pack. All the components were pre-installed on a purpose made
   sub frame and just bolted up.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Paul A Rimov <rimovp at gmail.com>
   Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:29 PM
   To: Matt Wells <nwpantera at gmail.com>
   Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Electric anyone?

   When I attended the Rennsport reunion in 2018 there was a company that
   had designed an electric motor that was fitted between the motor and
   transmission and the battery packs were placed up front. Very sanitary
   set up. I could see how something like that could be adapted to the
   Pantera. I don't think even the engineers at Tesla could come up with a
   way to adapt the system from a donor car. There just wouldn't be any
   place to adapt the Pantera's chassis to accommodate the battery pack
   from most of the possible donor electric cars on the market with the
   exception of a Koinsenegg which would be just stupid or I suppose a you
   could make a custom battery pack.
   rimovp at gmail.com
   > On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Matt Wells <nwpantera at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >    All right let's juice up this forum! Hope you are all doing as
   well as
   >   can be expected. My mind tends to wander to unknown places
   lately...
   >   I've been seeing a trend that's growing and that is converting ICE
   cars
   >   to electric.
   >   Does anyone have any thoughts on converting a Pantera?
   >   Stop reading now if you don't want to hear any more of this
   nonsense.
   >   Still here? Then here's some of my thoughts.
   >   Has it been done yet? I'd be surprised if somebody has not yet
   >   attempted it. If not it will surely be done at some point in the
   >   future.
   >   I know what you're thinking. Sacrilege!
   >   The very heart of the Pantera is that loud and proud rumbly V8
   planted
   >   squarely in the middle.
   >   That's the way it was designed and that is what gives it that
   muscle
   >   car heritage combined with sexy aggressive Italian styling.
   >   The confluence of the two makes the car uniquely different and
   >   desirable. It's heritage is firmly embedded in automotive history
   never
   >   to be repeated.
   >   HOWEVER!
   >   I know it could be done with components available today for a
   >   "reasonable" cost which is going to become even cheaper in the
   >   immediate future.
   >   Which company or vendor will be the first to change with the times
   and
   >   offer an electric conversion kit?
   >   Who will have the title of owning the worlds first electric powered
   >   Pantera?
   >   The benefits of electric power in cars are well documented. The
   >   negatives of ICE as well. Maintenance,gas,oils,and exhaust
   emissions
   >   would all be virtually eliminated.
   >   I also understand electric power does not grow on trees and it's
   >   sources and means of production are questionable and need to be
   >   improved upon. But that's another discussion.
   >   My only experience,besides a golf cart, of actually driving an
   electric
   >   car was a go kart and it was, well in a word, awesome!
   >   The feeling of instant torque was so different than anything I'd
   >   experienced before and I liked it.
   >   What if there was a way to convert to electric with the ability to
   go
   >   back to the ICE in the future if so desired?
   >   That would be ideal but more challenging. It would also attract
   more
   >   conversions and probably be more widely accepted by the gearhead
   >   community.
   >   If it meant no going back could I live with the decision?
   >   There of course would be obstacles to overcome and limited range is
   >   always an issue with batteries.
   >   When a stock body Pantera is altered to reflect the owners taste I
   >   usually cringe.
   >   If the change is on the inside I usually don't have an issue, as
   long
   >   as it works better and retains the original body lines.
   >   There's always going to be pro's and con's with either power plant.
   >   I'd have to wire up some speakers to mimic the missing V8 rumble!A
   >   How would I set off car alarms?
   >   Heck maybe I wouldn't miss it and could converse quietly while
   >   listening to smooth jazz as I silently carve the canyon roads on my
   way
   >   to the nearest charging station!
   >   Flame suit and mask on,
   >   Matt
   >   P.S. Thanks for your service Kurt!
   > _______________________________________________
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