[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 182, Issue 30
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 1 10:23:27 EDT 2019
As others have eluded to I think you should dispel these mid restoration blues thoughts from your head and finish Pandora!
The collector car market has and is still softening, which brings complete finished cars into greater affordability. That said there always seems to be a group of buyers that can’t quite get into a finished car and they compete over the project cars. We have seen many times where a project fetches a
disproportionate price compared to the work required to finish it. With all the hard work for your car done it is a blank canvas for someone to get what they want at a reduced price. If you have to pay someone to finish the car I suspect you may not be out of pocket selling as is.
Of course the right thing to do would be get paint on it and then enlist fellow Pantera owners (beer and pizza is a great incentive) over a few weekends to help put it back together.
Julian
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 04:31, Trip Owen <lance730 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Well, there are times when things happen and suddenly cars are not so
> important, or you lose interest, but yes,
>
> you will take big hit selling a car in parts, not to mentioned fewer
> guys today want to buy an unfinished car,
>
> take on 3 year project, skinned knuckles, parts hunt, $10,000 paint
> job, etc,
>
> Trip
>
> DC
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 16:19:21 +0000
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, Chris Kimball
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> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[3]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so!? Why not just finish it?!? I hope there is no terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere so
> we can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before
> throwing out random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is complete
> or not.? My opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you sell
> your car disassembled.? All the risk is on the buyer as to whether the
> engine rebuild was done right and with quality parts, whether all the
> parts are there or not, whether anything else needs repair/replacement,
> etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
> ------------------------------
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:25:05 +0000
> From: Christopher Kimball <ChrisVKimball at msn.com>
> To: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>, Garth Rodericks
> <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
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> That's kind of the direction I'm leaning, I still have to do some more
> contemplating.
> Thanks for your advice!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> ________________________________
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Chris Kimball
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> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[4]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so! Why not just finish it?! I hope there is no terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere so
> we can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before
> throwing out random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is complete
> or not. My opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you sell
> your car disassembled. All the risk is on the buyer as to whether the
> engine rebuild was done right and with quality parts, whether all the
> parts are there or not, whether anything else needs repair/replacement,
> etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
> -------------- next part --------------
> That's kind of the direction I'm leaning, I still have to do some
> more
> contemplating.
> Thanks for your advice!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Chris Kimball
> <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; DeTomaso Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[1]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so! Why not just finish it?! I hope there is no
> terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but
> just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere
> so
> we can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before
> throwing out random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is
> complete
> or not. My opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you
> sell
> your car disassembled. All the risk is on the buyer as to whether
> the
> engine rebuild was done right and with quality parts, whether all
> the
> parts are there or not, whether anything else needs
> repair/replacement,
> etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
> References
> 1. [5]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 14:20:08 -0400
> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Message-ID: <000001d55f5f$8f0ec7a0$ad2c56e0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Is there an "in restoration" Support Group?
> Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 13:25 PM
> To: Dave McManus; Garth Rodericks; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> That's kind of the direction I'm leaning, I still have to do some more
> contemplating.
> Thanks for your advice!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> ________________________________
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Chris Kimball
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> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[7]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so! Why not just finish it?! I hope there is no terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere so
> we
> can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before throwing
> out
> random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a
> car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is complete or
> not. My
> opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you sell your car
> disassembled. All the risk is on the buyer as to whether the engine
> rebuild
> was done right and with quality parts, whether all the parts are there
> or
> not, whether anything else needs repair/replacement, etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
> ------------------------------
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 18:40:18 +0000
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
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> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:20 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Is there an "in restoration" Support Group?
> Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 13:25 PM
> To: Dave McManus; Garth Rodericks; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> That's kind of the direction I'm leaning, I still have to do some more
> contemplating.
> Thanks for your advice!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> ________________________________
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Chris Kimball
> <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; DeTomaso Mail List
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[9]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so! Why not just finish it?! I hope there is no terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere so
> we
> can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before throwing
> out
> random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a
> car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is complete or
> not. My
> opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you sell your car
> disassembled. All the risk is on the buyer as to whether the engine
> rebuild
> was done right and with quality parts, whether all the parts are there
> or
> not, whether anything else needs repair/replacement, etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
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> That's kind of the direction I'm leaning, I still have to do some
> more
> contemplating.
> Thanks for your advice!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> ________________________________
> From: Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:19 AM
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; Chris Kimball
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> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> I agree. Good points Garth.
> IndyDave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Rodericks [[2]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Chris Kimball; DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] advice needed
> Chris,
> Say it isn't so! Why not just finish it?! I hope there is no
> terrible
> change to your life causing you to have to part with the car, but
> just
> restoration fatigue.
> Anyway, how about some pics, or a link to an online album somewhere
> so
> we
> can get a better idea of the current state of affairs before
> throwing
> out
> random numbers.
> Basically though, a complete and assembled car is always worth more
> than a
> car in boxes, regardless of whether the restoration is complete or
> not. My
> opinion is that you'll "take it in the shorts" if you sell your car
> disassembled. All the risk is on the buyer as to whether the engine
> rebuild
> was done right and with quality parts, whether all the parts are
> there
> or
> not, whether anything else needs repair/replacement, etc.
> Anyway, I hope of the best for you!
> Cheers!Garth#4033
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