[DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 24 13:07:30 EDT 2019


 Delcity has heat shrink tubing 40% off right now.  I ordered the solder slugs and red and black triple wall heat shrink Tuesday.  Will give it a shot this weekend.
Ken

    On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 8:48:18 AM PDT, steve at snclocks.com <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:  
 
 I love Dell City Wire!

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?

Whichever way works best.
>From Del City Wire, some options:

https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_14265.h_792476

https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_10380

https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg

https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals/p_804069.h_804070

Asa  Jay

⁣Asa  Jay  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks​

On Oct 24, 2019, 07:37, at 07:37, steve at snclocks.com wrote:
>The thing I love most about individual decisions is we each get to live 
>with what we choose.  I sure am glad batteries are put together 
>properly and all that lead doesn't just vibrate away!
>
>But, honestly - The hardness of pure lead is 1.5 on the Mohs scale 
>(between talc and gypsum: it can be scratched by the fingernail), and 
>its tensile strength is only 2000 psi. ... Lead anneals itself 
>(recrystallizes) at room temperature, so cold work does not harden it.
>
>Hmmm - tensile of 2,000 psi - wow.  Make no mistake - I crimp 
>connections before I solder them - heck fire - how am I supposed to 
>keep that little metal thingie on the wire if I don't crimp it in some 
>way.  And, if the solder does in fact tin the surface of the wire - wow 
>- tough to break that grip.  I've never seen soldered connections 
>loosen with time - but I've also never seen a unicorn.  Doesn't mean 
>there aren't unicorns out there...
>
>The main thing is to get your cars out and drive the piss out of them.
>
>Oh - could someone teach factories how to properly solder and/or 
>crimp???  I won't even begin to go there on the really crap aftermarket 
>work I see on electrical systems - cold solder joints anyone?
>
>Stephen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of 
>David
>Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:27 AM
>To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Detomaso Email List <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
>
>The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp.  Stop and think about it 
>for a second.
>If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the 
>cable in?
>Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.
>Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the connection.
>Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really 
>unnecessary.
>Done properly crimping is the way to go.
>David Finley 3659
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>  I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends.  I
>think
>>  they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them.  Any reason
>to
>>  not solder onto the cables?
>>  Thanks, Inline image
>>  Ken
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   Delcity has heat shrink tubing 40% off right now.  I ordered the solder
   slugs and red and black triple wall heat shrink Tuesday.  Will give it
   a shot this weekend.
   Ken

   On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 8:48:18 AM PDT, steve at snclocks.com
   <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
   I love Dell City Wire!
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
   Of Asa Jay Laughton
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:12 AM
   To: Detomaso Email List <[2]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
   Whichever way works best.
   From Del City Wire, some options:
   [3]https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_1426
   5.h_792476
   [4]https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_1
   0380
   [5]https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg
   [6]https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals
   /p_804069.h_804070
   Asa  Jay
   a-L-Asa  Jay  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired Sent using Jedi
   Mind Tricksa
   On Oct 24, 2019, 07:37, at 07:37, [7]steve at snclocks.com wrote:
   >The thing I love most about individual decisions is we each get to
   live
   >with what we choose.  I sure am glad batteries are put together
   >properly and all that lead doesn't just vibrate away!
   >
   >But, honestly - The hardness of pure lead is 1.5 on the Mohs scale
   >(between talc and gypsum: it can be scratched by the fingernail), and
   >its tensile strength is only 2000 psi. ... Lead anneals itself
   >(recrystallizes) at room temperature, so cold work does not harden it.
   >
   >Hmmm - tensile of 2,000 psi - wow.  Make no mistake - I crimp
   >connections before I solder them - heck fire - how am I supposed to
   >keep that little metal thingie on the wire if I don't crimp it in some
   >way.  And, if the solder does in fact tin the surface of the wire -
   wow
   >- tough to break that grip.  I've never seen soldered connections
   >loosen with time - but I've also never seen a unicorn.  Doesn't mean
   >there aren't unicorns out there...
   >
   >The main thing is to get your cars out and drive the piss out of them.
   >
   >Oh - could someone teach factories how to properly solder and/or
   >crimp???  I won't even begin to go there on the really crap
   aftermarket
   >work I see on electrical systems - cold solder joints anyone?
   >
   >Stephen
   >
   >-----Original Message-----
   >From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
   Of
   >David
   >Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:27 AM
   >To: Ken Green <[9]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   >Cc: Detomaso Email List <[10]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
   >
   >The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp.  Stop and think about it
   >for a second.
   >If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the
   >cable in?
   >Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.
   >Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the connection.
   >Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really
   >unnecessary.
   >Done properly crimping is the way to go.
   >David Finley 3659
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >>  I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends.  I
   >think
   >>  they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them.  Any reason
   >to
   >>  not solder onto the cables?
   >>  Thanks, Inline image
   >>  Ken
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   3. https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Copper-Battery-Terminals/p_14265.h_792476
   4. https://www.delcity.net/store/Hex!Crimp-Heavy-Duty-Crimping-Tool/p_10380
   5. https://www.delcity.net/documents/movies/battery_terminals.mpg
   6. https://m.delcity.net/store/Straight-Barrel-Fusion-Battery-Terminals/p_804069.h_804070
   7. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
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