[DeTomaso] EXT: Re: Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 24 13:05:22 EDT 2019


 The Delcity video Larry Finch shared seems to address potential issues if it is followed:
The proper way to solder battery terminals

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Looks like they are using a Benzomatic torch.  Maybe getting it hot enough to melt the slug guarantees that you will get a good solder, and the vertical position prevents or at least reduces any solder wicking into the cable?

Ken

    On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 9:44:13 AM PDT, Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore) <Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com> wrote:  
 
     Proper Soldered joints are stronger than the wire and connector they are soldered to.  That’s why Ford for years has had very specific procedures for soldering connections in the vehicles.  That’s also why we don’t use any crimped connections on the Gas turbines or Generators at GE when we replace INC connectors that have failed due to vibration.  The problem with something like a 12v positive cable is getting it hot enough to make a good joint with household soldering irons.  I have a nice solder torch I use at the house that gets hot enough to weld with.

Edmund C Byrne III
Generator Specialist

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Subject: EXT: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?

 I thought a lot of radiators were soldered?  

    On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 7:27:07 AM PDT, David <david at msmcontractors.org> wrote:  
 
   The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp.  Stop and think about it
  for a second.

  If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the
  cable in?

  Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.

  Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the connection.

  Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really
  unnecessary.

  Done properly crimping is the way to go.

  David Finley 3659

  [cid:B534B25D-D9A3-4337-9E1D-BB5DD49EFA0D at NECA.local]

    I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends.  I
  think
    they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them.  Any reason to
    not solder onto the cables?
    Thanks, Inline image
    Ken
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   The Delcity video Larry Finch shared seems to address potential issues
   if it is followed:
   [1]The proper way to solder battery terminals

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                 The proper way to solder battery terminals

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   Looks like they are using a Benzomatic torch.  Maybe getting it hot
   enough to melt the slug guarantees that you will get a good solder, and
   the vertical position prevents or at least reduces any solder wicking
   into the cable?
   Ken

   On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 9:44:13 AM PDT, Byrne, Edmund
   (FieldCore) <Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com> wrote:
       Proper Soldered joints are stronger than the wire and connector
   they are soldered to.  Thatas why Ford for years has had very specific
   procedures for soldering connections in the vehicles.  Thatas also why
   we donat use any crimped connections on the Gas turbines or Generators
   at GE when we replace INC connectors that have failed due to
   vibration.  The problem with something like a 12v positive cable is
   getting it hot enough to make a good joint with household soldering
   irons.  I have a nice solder torch I use at the house that gets hot
   enough to weld with.
   Edmund C Byrne III
   Generator Specialist
   M +1 804 405 9256
   P + 1 804 513 4616
   [2]Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com
   Current Location: Dominion Possum Point
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   Subject: EXT: Re: [DeTomaso] Battery Cable Ends, OK to solder?
   I thought a lot of radiators were soldered?
       On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 7:27:07 AM PDT, David
   <[6]david at msmcontractors.org> wrote:
     The strongest connection is a PROPER crimp.  Stop and think about it
     for a second.
     If only soldering a large cable in a closed lug, what is holding the
     cable in?
     Just the solder which is attached to the inside surface of the lug.
     Solder is SOFT! Over time, vibration etc., will loosen the
   connection.
     Nothing wrong with soldering a crimped connection but really
     unnecessary.
     Done properly crimping is the way to go.
     David Finley 3659
     [cid:[7]B534B25D-D9A3-4337-9E1D-BB5DD49EFA0D at NECA.local]
       I have some fairly heavy and nice looking battery cable ends.  I
     think
       they can be crimped, but I'd like to just solder them.  Any reason
   to
       not solder onto the cables?
       Thanks, Inline image
       Ken
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