[DeTomaso] This will buff out, no problem!
audionut motonut
audionut at mediacombb.net
Wed May 8 16:20:43 EDT 2019
---still scratching my head on this one.....
Car collectors consider a square inch of identifiable metal that came from an original vehicle a viable candidate for a complete restoration?
So, if one has that single tiny piece and then they fabricate everything else, it will be acknowledged as original, authentic and an investment-grade collectible?
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If you can document provenance, that's all that is required (and paid
for) in an honest documented restoration. We suffered a tragic loss
of life and limb with a recent gas explosion and there was some
grousing when we realized a priceless Porsche collection was involved,
but the level of damage is really not a barrier. All the cars are
fully documented so a restoration that shows a square inch of aluminum
came from a particular car and you can track it all the way back is
sufficient. And heaven knows it can be done accurately. Porsche
enthusiasts can be more pedantic than Star Wars fans.
(warning, depiction of... well if you are here already I guess you are inured)
https://twitter.com/SpecNewsRDU/status/1116035632466468864/video/1
sean
On 5/7/19, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
> I know someone that paid more than 16k for an early thirties Bugatti
> firewall with the factory number plate. He built a completely accurate
> car to put the plate on and it is considered a concours restoration.
> The plate seems to have a better value now.
>
> What the market will bear.
>
> jerry knotts
>
>
> On 5/7/2019 4:22 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote:
>> Who cares about a pile of crap! Will someone pay $16k for a clean title??
>>
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>>
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations
>>
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Juno Systems & Software Team
>> TGO Sequence Lead
>> Odyssey Sequence Team
>> Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team
>>
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> 🇺🇸
>>
>>
>> On 5/7/19, 2:15 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of audionut--- via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Definitely a "get this pile out of here!" sale.
>> Gotta hand it to these guys-- trying to squeeze a final dime out of
>> what they must know is beyond garbage. Even a scrapper is going to
>> pass on this one.
>> "oh well, throw 'er up on eBay.......you never know.......somebody
>> might see something we don't see."
>> The driver of this car could not have survived-- obviously there
>> were
>> multiple roll-overs at every imaginable angle. Hell of a way to go!
>> Sent using Hushmail
>> On 5/7/2019 at 1:55 PM, "Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso" wrote:Hey
>> Garth,You know there could be some 0.040 over pistons inside that
>> engine! ;)
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:26:00 PM PDT, Garth Rodericks via
>> DeTomaso wrote:
>> Article about this car, but unfortunately no history of what
>> happened
>> in 1978.
>>
>> [1]https://www.rcnmag.com/blog/destroyed-de-tomaso-dilemma
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:04:12 PM PDT, Garth Rodericks
>> wrote:
>> D'oh! The accident was in 1978 - I shoulda read the whole thing
>> before
>> posting. And it has original Campys with Goodyear Polyglas tires -
>> Art's car had polished Campy clones IIRC. Can't believe that POS
>> would
>> be worth even half the asking price. Nothing salvageable on that
>> thing
>> save for the heater box and a crappy carburetor.
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 11:06:42 AM PDT, Garth Rodericks
>> wrote:
>> That looks like Art Stephen's car that he wrecked in the Nevada
>> desert. Does anyone know what the story is on this one if it's not
>> Art's?
>> [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/382930064693
>> Sure hope the owner/driver walked away from this.
>> Cheers!
>> Garth
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. https://www.rcnmag.com/blog/destroyed-de-tomaso-dilemma
>> 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/382930064693
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---still scratching my head on this one.....
Car collectors consider a square inch of identifiable metal that came
from an original vehicle a viable candidate for a complete restoration?
So, if one has that single tiny piece and then they fabricate
everything else, it will be acknowledged as original, authentic and an
investment-grade collectible?
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wed, 08 May 2019 07:36:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: This will buff out, no problem!
If you can document provenance, that's all that is required (and paid
for) in an honest documented restoration. We suffered a tragic loss
of life and limb with a recent gas explosion and there was some
grousing when we realized a priceless Porsche collection was involved,
but the level of damage is really not a barrier. All the cars are
fully documented so a restoration that shows a square inch of aluminum
came from a particular car and you can track it all the way back is
sufficient. And heaven knows it can be done accurately. Porsche
enthusiasts can be more pedantic than Star Wars fans.
(warning, depiction of... well if you are here already I guess you are
inured)
https://twitter.com/SpecNewsRDU/status/1116035632466468864/video/1
sean
On 5/7/19, Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com> wrote:
> I know someone that paid more than 16k for an early thirties Bugatti
> firewall with the factory number plate. He built a completely
accurate
> car to put the plate on and it is considered a concours restoration.
> The plate seems to have a better value now.
>
> What the market will bear.
>
> jerry knotts
>
>
> On 5/7/2019 4:22 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote:
>> Who cares about a pile of crap! Will someone pay $16k for a clean
title??
>>
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>>
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Deep Space Exploration a Mission Operations
>>
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Juno Systems & Software Team
>> TGO Sequence Lead
>> Odyssey Sequence Team
>> Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team
>>
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> d--od-,
>>
>>
>> i>>?On 5/7/19, 2:15 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of audionut--- via
DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Definitely a "get this pile out of here!" sale.
>> Gotta hand it to these guys-- trying to squeeze a final dime out of
>> what they must know is beyond garbage. Even a scrapper is going to
>> pass on this one.
>> "oh well, throw 'er up on eBay.......you never know.......somebody
>> might see something we don't see."
>> The driver of this car could not have survived-- obviously there
>> were
>> multiple roll-overs at every imaginable angle. Hell of a way to go!
>> Sent using Hushmail
>> On 5/7/2019 at 1:55 PM, "Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso" wrote:Hey
>> Garth,You know there could be some 0.040 over pistons inside that
>> engine! ;)
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:26:00 PM PDT, Garth Rodericks via
>> DeTomaso wrote:
>> Article about this car, but unfortunately no history of what
>> happened
>> in 1978.
>>
>> [1]https://www.rcnmag.com/blog/destroyed-de-tomaso-dilemma
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 12:04:12 PM PDT, Garth Rodericks
>> wrote:
>> D'oh! The accident was in 1978 - I shoulda read the whole thing
>> before
>> posting. And it has original Campys with Goodyear Polyglas tires -
>> Art's car had polished Campy clones IIRC. Can't believe that POS
>> would
>> be worth even half the asking price. Nothing salvageable on that
>> thing
>> save for the heater box and a crappy carburetor.
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 11:06:42 AM PDT, Garth Rodericks
>> wrote:
>> That looks like Art Stephen's car that he wrecked in the Nevada
>> desert. Does anyone know what the story is on this one if it's not
>> Art's?
>> [2]https://www.ebay.com/itm/382930064693
>> Sure hope the owner/driver walked away from this.
>> Cheers!
>> Garth
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. https://www.rcnmag.com/blog/destroyed-de-tomaso-dilemma
>> 2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/382930064693
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