[DeTomaso] Ares Project 1 - Panther

Jerry Knotts knottsj at galstar.com
Fri Mar 15 17:11:01 EDT 2019 

Hear hear!

Changes from the push button to the SI and the manufacture still went 
out of business.

jerry knotts

On 3/15/2019 3:24 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
>     No matter what it looks like there are always going to be haters and
>     from reactions across the various forums/social media it seems there
>     are no bigger haters than the purist Pantera crowd. You know; those
>     same people that for years embraced any and all modifications to their
>     cars (cue music for the good, bad and the ugly) and also complained
>     they weren't worth a dime. Yes, those same people who now scramble to
>     find oem parts at scrap value prices and won't drive their Pantera's
>     because they are worth too much and complain about all that too!
>
>     Yes, this a modified Huracan platform, yes it costs a lot of money, but
>     then so does the base car it came from and as with many low volume
>     supercars and coach builders you are paying for exclusivity. Is it in
>     my budget no, hell no, but if I was spending that sort of money on a
>     car I'd give it serious consideration, no, actually I'd buy one, but
>     then if I was spending that sort of money on a car It would be because
>     I had the means to have a lot of cars! And having bought it I'd sure as
>     hell be welcome at Cars & Coffee if not the POCA Fun Rally!
>
>     I actually see more Pantera in this embodiment than I do Huracan, maybe
>     that would rapidly fade in pressing the button when the V10 engine
>     spurts into life, but visually I think it is a great effort and I'd
>     like to think Tom Tjaarda would see the likeness and cues that he
>     designed so many years ago. Part of the problem of any modern rendition
>     is that the Pantera has stood the test of time so well, it doesn't look
>     out of place against any modern supercar and in some cases can still
>     outshine them. But in reality this Ares isn't a car targeted at the
>     current Pantera owner, it is a modern rendition for a modern World that
>     demands luxury in a vehicle and for people who have lost touch with
>     being one with the car and feeling out every inch of the road.
>
>     In comparison to dropping what is reported to be +$350K (we don't know
>     for sure because Tom Kim has been ever so quiet) on a stretched carbon
>     fiber copy of a GT5-S I'd sure try and find the extra for the Ares
>     version. After all, if I want a GT5-S why not just buy the original at
>     lower cost? Because, as I said these new Pantera's are not a car for a
>     driver, but a car for someone who wants to be driven in perceived
>     style, a status symbol, perhaps for the likes of someone whose parent
>     has just bought their way into an Ivy league school and needs a to make
>     an arrival statement. Whereas, we as Pantera owners are more about the
>     departure statement!
>
>     Julian
>       __________________________________________________________________
>
>     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>     GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>
>     Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:39 AM
>     To: Larry Finch; Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ares Project 1 - Panther
>
>     The new Ares DeTomaso sportscar is nothing more than a rebadged
>     Lambourgini Hurican for $685,000. This is coming from Tom Kim's
>     EX-Partner in Europe who is calling it a Panther for Legal reasons.
>     [1]https://www.motor1.com/news/313525/ares-panther-de-tomaso-tribute/
>     > Gerry
>     >
>
> References
>
>     1. https://www.motor1.com/news/313525/ares-panther-de-tomaso-tribute/
>
>
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   Hear hear!

   Changes from the push button to the SI and the manufacture still went
   out of business.

   jerry knotts

   On 3/15/2019 3:24 PM, Julian Kift wrote:

   No matter what it looks like there are always going to be haters and
   from reactions across the various forums/social media it seems there
   are no bigger haters than the purist Pantera crowd. You know; those
   same people that for years embraced any and all modifications to their
   cars (cue music for the good, bad and the ugly) and also complained
   they weren't worth a dime. Yes, those same people who now scramble to
   find oem parts at scrap value prices and won't drive their Pantera's
   because they are worth too much and complain about all that too!

   Yes, this a modified Huracan platform, yes it costs a lot of money, but
   then so does the base car it came from and as with many low volume
   supercars and coach builders you are paying for exclusivity. Is it in
   my budget no, hell no, but if I was spending that sort of money on a
   car I'd give it serious consideration, no, actually I'd buy one, but
   then if I was spending that sort of money on a car It would be because
   I had the means to have a lot of cars! And having bought it I'd sure as
   hell be welcome at Cars & Coffee if not the POCA Fun Rally!

   I actually see more Pantera in this embodiment than I do Huracan, maybe
   that would rapidly fade in pressing the button when the V10 engine
   spurts into life, but visually I think it is a great effort and I'd
   like to think Tom Tjaarda would see the likeness and cues that he
   designed so many years ago. Part of the problem of any modern rendition
   is that the Pantera has stood the test of time so well, it doesn't look
   out of place against any modern supercar and in some cases can still
   outshine them. But in reality this Ares isn't a car targeted at the
   current Pantera owner, it is a modern rendition for a modern World that
   demands luxury in a vehicle and for people who have lost touch with
   being one with the car and feeling out every inch of the road.

   In comparison to dropping what is reported to be +$350K (we don't know
   for sure because Tom Kim has been ever so quiet) on a stretched carbon
   fiber copy of a GT5-S I'd sure try and find the extra for the Ares
   version. After all, if I want a GT5-S why not just buy the original at
   lower cost? Because, as I said these new Pantera's are not a car for a
   driver, but a car for someone who wants to be driven in perceived
   style, a status symbol, perhaps for the likes of someone whose parent
   has just bought their way into an Ivy league school and needs a to make
   an arrival statement. Whereas, we as Pantera owners are more about the
   departure statement!

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso [1]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   GERRY ROMACK [2]<gr2835 at comcast.net>
   Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:39 AM
   To: Larry Finch; Larry Finch via DeTomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ares Project 1 - Panther

   The new Ares DeTomaso sportscar is nothing more than a rebadged
   Lambourgini Hurican for $685,000. This is coming from Tom Kim's
   EX-Partner in Europe who is calling it a Panther for Legal reasons.
   [1][3]https://www.motor1.com/news/313525/ares-panther-de-tomaso-tribute/
   > Gerry
   >

References

   1. [4]https://www.motor1.com/news/313525/ares-panther-de-tomaso-tribute/


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