[DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: Installing early front bumpers on smooth nose Pantera

Thu Mar 14 20:48:24 EDT 2019

Mine is an "L" car #7104.  ??

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On 3/14/19, 5:46 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of L GRAY" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:

        ......... Serial # 4269 was the beginning of the “L” series cars world wide. A get pre L cars squeezed through the process but probably less than 10. Therefore the Euro “L” cars DID have the l turn lamp pod as part of the nose panel. The Euro “L” cars front bumpers were essentially pre-L without the turn indicator mount as part of the “blade” bumper.

    Leslie A. Gray

    On Mar 14, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:

    Ken,

    Since your car is a Euro GTS it used standard Pre-L front sheet metal and the turn signals were in the bumpers. You should have indentations in the front valance behind the bumpers to give clearance for the back of the lights.

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    If it was a Euro L it would have the standard L-model turn signal pods welded to the underside of the front valance.

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    If you have neither of these features, check for a very thick plug of bondo on each side where the indentations are, unless they took the time to weld in sheet metal patches.

    Mike

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    > On Mar 14, 2019, at 15:28, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
    >
    >   Good suggestion, I'll try, but it's smooth now, and I think the
    >   original holes are on slightly raised areas that are no longer there,
    >   assuming it originally had these bumpers.  The VIN is 5093, I'm not
    >   sure what was used in European cars around that VIN?
    >   Ken
    >
    >   On Thursday, March 14, 2019, 2:42:49 PM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
    >   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
    >   Ken,
    >   Can you look inside and find where the original holes were?
    >   Mike
    >   Sent from my iPhone
    >> On Mar 14, 2019, at 13:03, Ken Green via DeTomaso
    >   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >> My European import 73 had no front bumper(s) and no features for
    >   turn
    >> signals.  Turn signals were fitted to the grill, not sure how it
    >> originally was.
    >>
    >> I have shallow LED lights mounted in early front bumpers and don't
    >   need
    >> any recesses in the nose like the original lights would require, but
    >> need to drill holes to mount the bumpers.  I am thinking about
    >> sharpening ends of studs to points and installing the studs to the
    >> bumpers to slightly more than touch the nose.  Then carefully hold
    >   the
    >> bumpers in position and tap with a rubber mallet to make indents to
    >> drill.
    >>
    >> Is there a better way?
    >>
    >> Ken
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