[DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Mon Mar 11 13:43:45 EDT 2019
Julian,
It’s always been a little bit of a smoker, but in recent years it has really started to show its age. It still seems to run strong, but then an all-aluminum 427 Windsor stroker could lose a lot and still feel plenty fast.
When I drove it to Italy and back in 2009 it was always on the verge of boiling over, but never did. Geoff deliberately fitted an undersized radiator suited to a 4-cylinder car, to save weight! Really dumb idea. It’s barely adequate in cold England, and was right at the limit in Italy. I finally just gave up looking at the temperature gauge as it was always right at 230.
The car only weighs about 2500 pounds.
Mike
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> On Mar 11, 2019, at 07:17, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The amount of oil it appeared to burning I'd say it needed a rebuild too! Either that or it has one of those stroker motors with the oil rings intersecting the wrist pins and that is normal, either way not sure it would be too healthy following it closely, even in a Renault!
>
> Julian
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:12 AM
> To: Richard Greenblum
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
>
> You goofballs.
>
> You manage to overlook the fact that the entire chase sequence was scripted for comedic effect, and believe that the Pantera actually overheated and broke down???
>
> They used a smoke bomb!
>
> The car ran like a top and put up with unbelievable amounts of abuse. Only a fraction of the footage shot was actually used. The number of sidestep burnouts, powerslides etc they did beggars belief, and the car took it all like a champ.
>
> When it got home it needed new rear tires, flywheel and clutch. Those were totally (and deliberately) wrecked.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Mar 11, 2019, at 07:01, Richard Greenblum <richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agree with Tom. My car doesn't overheat, hasn't in more than 35 years. I hate that the issue is raised, especially when the reason isn't given. It could have been that the fans are manually switched and the driver forgot to turn them on...or it could be any number of things that could have been easily prevented.
> >
> > Richard
> > Austin, TX
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:59 AM
> > To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
> >
> > Although it was entertaining to watch the Pantera racing around it was disappointing to see it end by propagating the stigma of the Pantera breaking down due to overheating.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > To: David <david at msmcontractors.org>
> > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 10:56 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Missed anything? What do you mean specifically?
> >
> > I posted several videos during the shooting of the film, several months ago. Did you see those?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Mar 10, 2019, at 16:01, David <david at msmcontractors.org> wrote:
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> >> Have I missed anything about the making of the latest episode?
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Julian,
It's always been a little bit of a smoker, but in recent years it has
really started to show its age. It still seems to run strong, but then
an all-aluminum 427 Windsor stroker could lose a lot and still feel
plenty fast.
When I drove it to Italy and back in 2009 it was always on the verge of
boiling over, but never did. Geoff deliberately fitted an undersized
radiator suited to a 4-cylinder car, to save weight! Really dumb idea.
It's barely adequate in cold England, and was right at the limit in
Italy. I finally just gave up looking at the temperature gauge as it
was always right at 230.
The car only weighs about 2500 pounds.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 11, 2019, at 07:17, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
The amount of oil it appeared to burning I'd say it needed a rebuild
too! Either that or it has one of those stroker motors with the oil
rings intersecting the wrist pins and that is normal, either way not
sure it would be too healthy following it closely, even in a Renault!
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:12 AM
To: Richard Greenblum
Cc: [4]detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
You goofballs.
You manage to overlook the fact that the entire chase sequence was
scripted for comedic effect, and believe that the Pantera actually
overheated and broke down???
They used a smoke bomb!
The car ran like a top and put up with unbelievable amounts of abuse.
Only a fraction of the footage shot was actually used. The number of
sidestep burnouts, powerslides etc they did beggars belief, and the car
took it all like a champ.
When it got home it needed new rear tires, flywheel and clutch. Those
were totally (and deliberately) wrecked.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 11, 2019, at 07:01, Richard Greenblum
<[5]richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>
> Agree with Tom. My car doesn't overheat, hasn't in more than 35
years. I hate that the issue is raised, especially when the reason
isn't given. It could have been that the fans are manually switched and
the driver forgot to turn them on...or it could be any number of things
that could have been easily prevented.
>
> Richard
> Austin, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On
Behalf Of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:59 AM
> To: [7]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
>
> Although it was entertaining to watch the Pantera racing around it
was disappointing to see it end by propagating the stigma of the
Pantera breaking down due to overheating.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: David <[9]david at msmcontractors.org>
> Cc: detomaso <[10]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 10:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The Grand Tour
>
> David,
>
> Missed anything? What do you mean specifically?
>
> I posted several videos during the shooting of the film, several
months ago. Did you see those?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 16:01, David <[11]david at msmcontractors.org>
wrote:
>>
>> Have I missed anything about the making of the latest episode?
>> David Finley
>> #3659
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