[DeTomaso] Euro GTS production numbers

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 3 11:58:57 EST 2019 

All Euro cars had the smaller bumpers, the large impact bumpers are purely a US mandated initiative, nobody in their right mind would put those on unless forced to! There was no VIN identifier for Euro GTS, unlike the US cars that had 'GT' in the VIN. I suggest to use the various sources of information like Chuck Melton's registry, (which has a Euro GTS section) along with due diligence. Philippe OIczyk has factory records you can purchase for an ungodly sum of money, so that would be an expensive means to verification prior to purchase.

First and foremost find a car that appeals to you, but if you shoot for a Pushbutton or a late model 9000 series narrow body Pantera you are more likely purchasing a model that potentially has more upside.

Julian
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Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:45 AM
To: billmoore6480
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Euro GTS production numbers

Bill, good point -- I know a lot of owners made their cars look like euro
GTS.  But, yes - -real ones.  It is a not unlike my Pantera (SN5533) -- I
know there were less than 20 "real" factory FIA GR3 racers, but quite a few
customers turned their "regular" Pantera's (ie, SN5533) into GR3 racers.
 I am trying to get a handle on "real" Euro GTS (with the smaller bumpers
etc), as I am considering picking up another Pantera for the street and
thinking of going that way.


Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:21 PM billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
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> Real ones ???
>
>
>
> Bill Moore
> 403-860-4300
> Calgary, Alberta
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Date: 2019-03-02 4:47 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Euro GTS production numbers
>
> Does anyone know how many Euro GTS models were produced?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
>
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   All Euro cars had the smaller bumpers, the large impact bumpers are
   purely a US mandated initiative, nobody in their right mind would put
   those on unless forced to! There was no VIN identifier for Euro GTS,
   unlike the US cars that had 'GT' in the VIN. I suggest to use the
   various sources of information like Chuck Melton's registry, (which has
   a Euro GTS section) along with due diligence. Philippe OIczyk has
   factory records you can purchase for an ungodly sum of money, so that
   would be an expensive means to verification prior to purchase.

   First and foremost find a car that appeals to you, but if you shoot for
   a Pushbutton or a late model 9000 series narrow body Pantera you are
   more likely purchasing a model that potentially has more upside.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:45 AM
   To: billmoore6480
   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Euro GTS production numbers

   Bill, good point -- I know a lot of owners made their cars look like
   euro
   GTS.  But, yes - -real ones.  It is a not unlike my Pantera (SN5533) --
   I
   know there were less than 20 "real" factory FIA GR3 racers, but quite a
   few
   customers turned their "regular" Pantera's (ie, SN5533) into GR3
   racers.
    I am trying to get a handle on "real" Euro GTS (with the smaller
   bumpers
   etc), as I am considering picking up another Pantera for the street and
   thinking of going that way.
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 312-320-5888
   [1]www.PatentIt.com <[2]http://www.patentit.com/>
   *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656  |  *F:* 480.535.6628  |  *A:*
   7689
   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
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   E.
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   On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:21 PM billmoore6480 <billmoore6480 at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   > Real ones ???
   >
   >
   >
   > Bill Moore
   > 403-860-4300
   > Calgary, Alberta
   >
   > -------- Original message --------
   > From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   > Date: 2019-03-02 4:47 PM (GMT-07:00)
   > To: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Euro GTS production numbers
   >
   > Does anyone know how many Euro GTS models were produced?
   >
   > Regards,
   >
   > Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   > Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   > Direct: 312-320-5888
   >
   > Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656  |  F: 480.535.6628  |  A: 7689
   East
   > Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   >
   > Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357  |  F:312.896.5633  |  A: 55 E.
   Monroe
   > Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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   Thank
   > you.
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   >    Does anyone know how many Euro GTS models were produced?
   >    Regards,A
   >    Steven G. Lisa, Esq.A
   >    Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   >    Direct:A 312-320-5888
   >    Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   >    |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   >    Chicago OfficeA |A P:A 312.752.4357A  |A A F:312.896.5633A  |A A
   A:A 55
   >    E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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