[DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXT: Re: Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed
marshallgsmith
marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jun 19 18:59:22 EDT 2019
I agree with you Terry. Besides the occasional Pantera with a questionable past selling for ridiculous money at some super auctions, values and sales of the Pantera have definitely declined.Value doesn't matter to me as mine's not for sale.MarshallSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Date: 6/19/19 11:17 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore)" <Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com>, William Eisele <wreisele at msn.com>, Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXT: Re: Two Weeks to Go - New
Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed I'm not seeing that in the sales of Pantera's on eBay. I did a check and the last 14 cars put up for sale DID NOT sell. Only the junker in Nebraska sold for parts. $37,080. That's only eBaythough. Terry"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion LaboratoryDeep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Dawn Spacecraft TeamJuno Systems & Software TeamTGO Sequence Lead Odyssey Sequence TeamSpitzer Space Telescope Data Team Phone: (818) 393-6261Cell: (818) 653-8213thimes at jpl.nasa.gov🇺🇸 On 6/19/19, 10:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore)" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com> wrote: Since the popularity of the FOS has exponentially grown over the last few years with the rise of social media I think the car will be much more popular. I watched the entire facebook livestream last year on my 4K T.V and was blown away. All in all none of this can be bad for the marque. The Pantera's popularity has been growing dramatically over the last few years so I think all of this is good news for those of us who own one. As noted below there have been a lot of attempts but CIT has picked a rather large event to promote this new venture so I think this is something else entirely than what we have seen in the past. I just hope the new car is true to its roots. The Pantera was and still is a big middle finger to the establishment Italian super car manufacturers and its popularity today is a testament to that fact. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of William Eisele Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:26 PM To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>; Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: EXT: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed I'm glad we own "Real Pantera's". Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:17:24 AM To: Mike Drew Cc: List DeTomaso Forum Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed Actually, POCA now owns the rights to the "Pantera" name. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > > Julian, > > No, I don't think so. The Festival of Speed outfit is basically > British. They bought the De Tomaso rights from the last aborted > attempt that landed the crook behind it in an Italian jail. > > Kim has no rights to the De Tomaso name. He only has Pantera rights in > the USA. > > I think.... > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:15, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Mike, > > Hmmm, not how I read the press releases that are out there, but can we > believe anything n the press nowadays! Isn't Consolidated Ideal Team > Ventures the same outfit that Kim was involved with and the very same > that acquired Apollo? > > [2]https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwo > od/ > > [3]De Tomaso to debut 'Project P' at Goodwood - Autoblog > De Tomaso will unveile its "Project P" car on July 4 at the Goodwood > Festival of Speed to celebrate the brand's 60th anniversary. > [4]www.autoblog.com > > Julian > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:03 AM > To: Julian Kift > Cc: List DeTomaso Forum > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut > at Festival of Speed > > Julian, > The new car at the Festival of Speed has nothing to do with Kim's GT5-S > project. They are u related flights of fancy. > Mike > Sent from my iPad >> On Jun 19, 2019, at 09:20, Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I would have expected more press or hype around the unveiling of > the >> new De Tomaso Project P at the upcoming Goodwood Festival of Speed > July >> 4-7, but it has been relatively quiet. >> >> The FoS is a popular event among our European brethren so hoping >> someone can get lots of photos and details to share. >> >> Peter Brock made mention to the new Pantera during his POCA Fun > Rally >> speech and would have us believe it is an entirely new design > involving >> German input, but was sworn to secrecy. That is not consistent with >> prior articles (or spy photos) where it was to be a stretched > Carbon >> bodied GT5-S with more modern drive train. I guess a couple weeks > will >> tell! >> >> Julian >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not >> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >> [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com >> [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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I agree with you Terry. Besides the occasional Pantera with a
questionable past selling for ridiculous money at some super auctions,
values and sales of the Pantera have definitely declined.
Value doesn't matter to me as mine's not for sale.
Marshall
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: "Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Date: 6/19/19 11:17 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore)" <Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com>, William Eisele
<wreisele at msn.com>, Scott Mead Photography
<scott at scottmeadphotography.com>, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXT: Re: Two Weeks to Go - New
Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed
I'm not seeing that in the sales of Pantera's on eBay. I did a check
and the last 14 cars put up
for sale DID NOT sell. Only the junker in Nebraska sold for parts.
$37,080. That's only eBay
though.
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Space Exploration - Mission Operations
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Juno Systems & Software Team
TGO Sequence Lead
Odyssey Sequence Team
Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
On 6/19/19, 10:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore)"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com> wrote:
Since the popularity of the FOS has exponentially grown over the
last few years with the rise of social media I think the car will be
much more popular. I watched the entire facebook livestream last year
on my 4K T.V and was blown away. All in all none of this can be bad
for the marque. The Pantera's popularity has been growing dramatically
over the last few years so I think all of this is good news for those
of us who own one. As noted below there have been a lot of attempts
but CIT has picked a rather large event to promote this new venture so
I think this is something else entirely than what we have seen in the
past. I just hope the new car is true to its roots. The Pantera was
and still is a big middle finger to the establishment Italian super car
manufacturers and its popularity today is a testament to that fact.
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf
Of William Eisele
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:26 PM
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>; Mike
Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: EXT: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project
P) Debut at Festival of Speed
I'm glad we own "Real Pantera's".
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of Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:17:24 AM
To: Mike Drew
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P)
Debut at Festival of Speed
Actually, POCA now owns the rights to the "Pantera" name.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> Julian,
>
> No, I don't think so. The Festival of Speed outfit is basically
> British. They bought the De Tomaso rights from the last
aborted
> attempt that landed the crook behind it in an Italian jail.
>
> Kim has no rights to the De Tomaso name. He only has Pantera
rights in
> the USA.
>
> I think....
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:15, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Hmmm, not how I read the press releases that are out there, but
can we
> believe anything n the press nowadays! Isn't Consolidated Ideal
Team
> Ventures the same outfit that Kim was involved with and the
very same
> that acquired Apollo?
>
>
[2]https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwo
> od/
>
> [3]De Tomaso to debut 'Project P' at Goodwood - Autoblog
> De Tomaso will unveile its "Project P" car on July 4 at the
Goodwood
> Festival of Speed to celebrate the brand's 60th anniversary.
> [4]www.autoblog.com
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project
P) Debut
> at Festival of Speed
>
> Julian,
> The new car at the Festival of Speed has nothing to do with
Kim's GT5-S
> project. They are u related flights of fancy.
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 09:20, Julian Kift
<[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I would have expected more press or hype around the unveiling
of
> the
>> new De Tomaso Project P at the upcoming Goodwood Festival of
Speed
> July
>> 4-7, but it has been relatively quiet.
>>
>> The FoS is a popular event among our European brethren so
hoping
>> someone can get lots of photos and details to share.
>>
>> Peter Brock made mention to the new Pantera during his POCA Fun
> Rally
>> speech and would have us believe it is an entirely new design
> involving
>> German input, but was sworn to secrecy. That is not consistent
with
>> prior articles (or spy photos) where it was to be a stretched
> Carbon
>> bodied GT5-S with more modern drive train. I guess a couple
weeks
> will
>> tell!
>>
>> Julian
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
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> 2.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/
> 3.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/
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> 5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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