[DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed
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Wed Jun 19 18:55:14 EDT 2019
Bob Reid reported that as true in Reno last week. The registration fee was $250.MarshallSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> Date: 6/19/19 10:45 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed As told to us at the President's meeting in Reno Kim let his ownership lapse and POCO picked it up for a nominal registration fee. I don't know any of the details but the POCA board should be able to clarify.Forest On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:35:00 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Scott,I very much doubt that is true. It would represent a great capital expense to buy the rights I think, likely more than POCA has in the bank. Kim supposedly paid quite a bit for the Pantera name and I doubt he would relinquish it.MikeSent from my iPad> On Jun 19, 2019, at 12:17, Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:> > Actually, POCA now owns the rights to the “Pantera” name. > > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:>> >> Julian,>> >> No, I don't think so. The Festival of Speed outfit is basically>> British. They bought the De Tomaso rights from the last aborted>> attempt that landed the crook behind it in an Italian jail.>> >> Kim has no rights to the De Tomaso name. He only has Pantera rights in>> the USA.>> >> I think....>> >> Mike>> >> Sent from my iPad>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:15, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>> wrote:>> >> Mike,>> >> Hmmm, not how I read the press releases that are out there, but can we>> believe anything n the press nowadays! Isn't Consolidated Ideal Team>> Ventures the same outfit that Kim was involved with and the very same>> that acquired Apollo?>> >> [2]https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwo>> od/>> >> [3]De Tomaso to debut 'Project P' at Goodwood - Autoblog>> De Tomaso will unveile its "Project P" car on July 4 at the Goodwood>> Festival of Speed to celebrate the brand's 60th anniversary.>> [4]www.autoblog.com>> >> Julian>> __________________________________________________________________>> >> From: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:03 AM>> To: Julian Kift>> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut>> at Festival of Speed>> >> Julian,>> The new car at the Festival of Speed has nothing to do with Kim's GT5-S>> project. They are u related flights of fancy.>> Mike>> Sent from my iPad>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 09:20, Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>>> wrote:>>> >>> I would have expected more press or hype around the unveiling of>> the>>> new De Tomaso Project P at the upcoming Goodwood Festival of Speed>> July>>> 4-7, but it has been relatively quiet.>>> >>> The FoS is a popular event among our European brethren so hoping>>> someone can get lots of photos and details to share.>>> >>> Peter Brock made mention to the new Pantera during his POCA Fun>> Rally>>> speech and would have us believe it is an entirely new design>> involving>>> German input, but was sworn to secrecy. That is not consistent with>>> prior articles (or spy photos) where it was to be a stretched>> Carbon>>> bodied GT5-S with more modern drive train. I guess a couple weeks>> will>>> tell!>>> >>> Julian>>> _______________________________________________>>> >>> >>> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes>>> DeTomaso mailing list>>> [7]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>> [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)>> use the links above.>>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive>> or approve the archiving of list messages.>> >> References>> >> Visible links>> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> 2. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/>> 3. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/>> 4. http://www.autoblog.com/>> 5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>> 6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>> >> Hidden links:>> 10. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/>> _______________________________________________>> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes>> DeTomaso mailing list>> DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso>> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.>> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Bob Reid reported that as true in Reno last week. The registration fee
was $250.
Marshall
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
Date: 6/19/19 10:45 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>, Mike Drew
<MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut
at Festival of Speed
As told to us at the President's meeting in Reno Kim let his ownership
lapse and POCO picked it up for a nominal registration fee. I don't
know any of the details but the POCA board should be able to
clarify.Forest
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:35:00 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Scott,
I very much doubt that is true. It would represent a great capital
expense to buy the rights I think, likely more than POCA has in the
bank.
Kim supposedly paid quite a bit for the Pantera name and I doubt he
would relinquish it.
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 12:17, Scott Mead Photography
<scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, POCA now owns the rights to the "Pantera" name.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Julian,
>>
>> No, I don't think so. The Festival of Speed outfit is basically
>> British. They bought the De Tomaso rights from the last aborted
>> attempt that landed the crook behind it in an Italian jail.
>>
>> Kim has no rights to the De Tomaso name. He only has Pantera rights
in
>> the USA.
>>
>> I think....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:15, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Hmmm, not how I read the press releases that are out there, but can
we
>> believe anything n the press nowadays! Isn't Consolidated Ideal
Team
>> Ventures the same outfit that Kim was involved with and the very
same
>> that acquired Apollo?
>>
>>
[2]https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwo
>> od/
>>
>> [3]De Tomaso to debut 'Project P' at Goodwood - Autoblog
>> De Tomaso will unveile its "Project P" car on July 4 at the
Goodwood
>> Festival of Speed to celebrate the brand's 60th anniversary.
>> [4]www.autoblog.com
>>
>> Julian
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:03 AM
>> To: Julian Kift
>> Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P)
Debut
>> at Festival of Speed
>>
>> Julian,
>> The new car at the Festival of Speed has nothing to do with Kim's
GT5-S
>> project. They are u related flights of fancy.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 09:20, Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would have expected more press or hype around the unveiling of
>> the
>>> new De Tomaso Project P at the upcoming Goodwood Festival of Speed
>> July
>>> 4-7, but it has been relatively quiet.
>>>
>>> The FoS is a popular event among our European brethren so hoping
>>> someone can get lots of photos and details to share.
>>>
>>> Peter Brock made mention to the new Pantera during his POCA Fun
>> Rally
>>> speech and would have us believe it is an entirely new design
>> involving
>>> German input, but was sworn to secrecy. That is not consistent with
>>> prior articles (or spy photos) where it was to be a stretched
>> Carbon
>>> bodied GT5-S with more modern drive train. I guess a couple weeks
>> will
>>> tell!
>>>
>>> Julian
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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>> References
>>
>> Visible links
>> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>> 2.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/
>> 3.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/
>> 4. http://www.autoblog.com/
>> 5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> 6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> Hidden links:
>> 10.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwood/
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
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