[DeTomaso] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXT: Re: Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed

Jerry Knotts knottsj at galstar.com
Wed Jun 19 17:14:59 EDT 2019


I don't know if the old adage is correct "If the stock market is up 
collector cars are down.".  I put mine in the Tulsa auction last week .  
There were 3 Panteras' in the auction none made reserve and I am not 
sure that most of the bidding wasn't air bids.  One of the cars with 29k 
original miles went to $95k and then was backed down to 80 and ended at 
85K - no sale.  Not cheap to put it in the auction for a no action bid.  
Tulsa is not a particularly good place to sell but I didn't get a bid 
that was half the reserve.

Have been considering BAT but that may be fruitless also, but at least 
cheaper.

jerry

On 6/19/2019 1:17 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) via DeTomaso wrote:
> I'm not seeing that in the sales of Pantera's on eBay.  I did a check and the last 14 cars put up
> for sale DID NOT sell.  Only the junker in Nebraska sold for parts.  $37,080.  That's only eBay
> though.
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> On 6/19/19, 10:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Byrne, Edmund (FieldCore)" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of Edmund.Byrne1 at ge.com> wrote:
>
>      Since the popularity of the FOS has exponentially grown over the last few years with the rise of social media I think the car will be much more popular.  I watched the entire facebook livestream last year on my 4K T.V and was blown away.  All in all none of this can be bad for the marque.  The Pantera's popularity has been growing dramatically over the last few years so I think all of this is good news for those of us who own one.  As noted below there have been a lot of attempts but CIT has picked a rather large event to promote this new venture so I think this is something else entirely than what we have seen in the past.  I just hope the new car is true to its roots.  The Pantera was and still is a big middle finger to the establishment Italian super car manufacturers and its popularity today is a testament to that fact.
>      
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>      From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of William Eisele
>      Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:26 PM
>      To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>; Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>      Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>      Subject: EXT: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed
>      
>      I'm glad we own "Real Pantera's".
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>      From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
>      Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:17:24 AM
>      To: Mike Drew
>      Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut at Festival of Speed
>      
>      Actually, POCA now owns the rights to the "Pantera" name.
>      
>      Sent from my iPhone
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>      > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>      >
>      >   Julian,
>      >
>      >   No, I don't think so. The Festival of Speed outfit is basically
>      >   British.  They bought the De Tomaso rights from the last aborted
>      >   attempt that landed the crook behind it in an Italian jail.
>      >
>      >   Kim has no rights to the De Tomaso name. He only has Pantera rights in
>      >   the USA.
>      >
>      >   I think....
>      >
>      >   Mike
>      >
>      >   Sent from my iPad
>      >   On Jun 19, 2019, at 11:15, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>      >   wrote:
>      >
>      >   Mike,
>      >
>      >   Hmmm, not how I read the press releases that are out there, but can we
>      >   believe anything n the press nowadays! Isn't Consolidated Ideal Team
>      >   Ventures the same outfit that Kim was involved with and the very same
>      >   that acquired Apollo?
>      >
>      >   [2]https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/17/de-tomaso-project-p-debut-goodwo
>      >   od/
>      >
>      >   [3]De Tomaso to debut 'Project P' at Goodwood - Autoblog
>      >   De Tomaso will unveile its "Project P" car on July 4 at the Goodwood
>      >   Festival of Speed to celebrate the brand's 60th anniversary.
>      >   [4]www.autoblog.com
>      >
>      >   Julian
>      >     __________________________________________________________________
>      >
>      >   From: Mike Drew <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>      >   Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:03 AM
>      >   To: Julian Kift
>      >   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum
>      >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two Weeks to Go - New Pantera (Project P) Debut
>      >   at Festival of Speed
>      >
>      >   Julian,
>      >   The new car at the Festival of Speed has nothing to do with Kim's GT5-S
>      >   project. They are u related flights of fancy.
>      >   Mike
>      >   Sent from my iPad
>      >> On Jun 19, 2019, at 09:20, Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>      >   wrote:
>      >>
>      >>  I would have expected more press or hype around the unveiling of
>      >   the
>      >>  new De Tomaso Project P at the upcoming Goodwood Festival of Speed
>      >   July
>      >>  4-7, but it has been relatively quiet.
>      >>
>      >>  The FoS is a popular event among our European brethren so hoping
>      >> someone can get lots of photos and details to share.
>      >>
>      >>  Peter Brock made mention to the new Pantera during his POCA Fun
>      >   Rally
>      >>  speech and would have us believe it is an entirely new design
>      >   involving
>      >>  German input, but was sworn to secrecy. That is not consistent with
>      >> prior articles (or spy photos) where it was to be a stretched
>      >   Carbon
>      >>  bodied GT5-S with more modern drive train. I guess a couple weeks
>      >   will
>      >>  tell!
>      >>
>      >>  Julian
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