[DeTomaso] P72

[Matt Wells]

Good stuff Jack. Thank you for a great story except I don't see any
connection between the story and why they call it the P72.
Am I missing something?

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

> Convoluted story. Ten V-8 sports-racers were supposed to run a series in
> Europe & the U.S. DeTomaso had Brock's blueprints but when his shop tried
> to build one, they mis-translated the SAE dimensions into metric, so the
> cockpit literally had no room for a human being. Everyone called it the
> "Manoletto'- able to be driven only by a legless mannequin. DeTomaso was
> embarrassed & scrapped the car. It was eventually reclaimed by some local
> shop into what looked like a Gr-C coupe with a Porsche engine/trans- which
> left enough room for a human driver. It still exists today. Photos and a
> brief description are in Olczyck's 'DeTomaso Racing' book, pgs 53-101.
>
>  A few weeks after DeTomaso had thrown Brock and his Shelby project out
> of his shop, he saw one being finished up personally by Brock at *Carrozzeria
> Fantuzzi*  just a few doors down the street. It looked so good, DeTomaso
> began building another one himself, with more attention being paid to
> dimensions. About that time, Shelby/Ford refused to pay for the
> ''Manoletto", using the Ford money instead to win the World Championship
> for the Cobras, further aggravating DeTomaso who was stuck for the bill.
> Fantuzzi was likely stuck for the cost of the 'Sport 5000'.
>
> To one-up Shelby/Brock's abandoned Fantuzzi- built car with a 5-L Ford,
> DeTomaso claimed his would have a 427 (7-liter) in it. In fact, neither car
> ever ran a 7 liter engine but it was a catchy name. The chassis (with a 5-L
> Ford) was shown at the Geneva Auto show but no one bought so DeTomaso used
> the chassis with a prototype Ghia coupe body to create the Mangusta (a
> Cobra killer- to worry Shelby), so he finally made his expenses. Brock's "Sport
> 5000" (for its 5-L Ford engine) only ran once in actual competition,
> DNF-ing on lap 3 at Mugello in'66 while DeTomaso's second one apparently
> never ran in a race.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Wells <nwpantera at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 9:40 am
> Subject: [DeTomaso] P72
>
>   Hagerty gushing over the P72. Anybody know why they call it that?
>   [1]https://tinyurl.com/y2wk2hd3A A
>
>
> References
>
>   1. https://tinyurl.com/y2wk2hd3
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   Good stuff Jack. Thank you for a great story except I don't see any
   connection between the story and why they call it the P72.
   Am I missing something?

   On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM <[1]jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

   Convoluted story. Ten V-8 sports-racers were supposed to run a series
   in Europe & the U.S. DeTomaso had Brock's blueprints but when his shop
   tried to build one, they mis-translated the SAE dimensions into metric,
   so the cockpit literally had no room for a human being. Everyone called
   it the "Manoletto'- able to be driven only by a legless mannequin.
   DeTomaso was embarrassed & scrapped the car. It was eventually
   reclaimed by some local shop into what looked like a Gr-C coupe with a
   Porsche engine/trans- which left enough room for a human driver. It
   still exists today. Photos and a brief description are in Olczyck's
   'DeTomaso Racing' book, pgs 53-101.
   A A few weeks after DeTomaso had thrown Brock and his Shelby project
   out of his shop, he saw one being finished up personally by Brock at
   Carrozzeria FantuzziA  just a few doors down the street. It looked so
   good, DeTomaso began building another one himself, with more attention
   being paid to dimensions. About that time, Shelby/Ford refused to pay
   for the ''Manoletto", using the Ford money instead to win the World
   Championship for the Cobras, further aggravating DeTomaso who was stuck
   for the bill. Fantuzzi was likely stuck for the cost of the 'Sport
   5000'.
   To one-up Shelby/Brock's abandoned Fantuzzi- built car with a 5-L Ford,
   DeTomaso claimed his would have a 427 (7-liter) in it. In fact, neither
   car ever ran a 7 liter engine but it was a catchy name. The chassis
   (with a 5-L Ford) was shown at the Geneva Auto show but no one bought
   so DeTomaso used the chassis with a prototype Ghia coupe body to create
   the Mangusta (a Cobra killer- to worry Shelby), so he finally made his
   expenses. Brock's "Sport 5000" (for its 5-L Ford engine) only ran once
   in actual competition, DNF-ing on lap 3 at Mugello in'66 while
   DeTomaso's second one apparently never ran in a race.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Matt Wells <[2]nwpantera at gmail.com>
   To: DeTomaso Mail List <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 9:40 am
   Subject: [DeTomaso] P72
   A  Hagerty gushing over the P72. Anybody know why they call it that?
   A  [1][4]https://tinyurl.com/y2wk2hd3A A
   References
   A  1. [5]https://tinyurl.com/y2wk2hd3
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