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I have Mindtrain headers on my 1974 GTS they fit perfekt 
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  Den man. 7. jan.. 2019 kl. 23.30 skrev Charles Engles<cengles at cox.net>:   Dear Rich,

              I don't know that there is a consensus.  IIRC, the Euro GTS
headers-exhaust were considered the best although they lost a reported 50
hp.  The Hall Big Bores have a smallish collector and lose more hp.  I am
also aware of one cognoscente that finds the BB exhaust note unpleasant.
Then....came the Wilkinson headers.  Initially, they were reported to look
good, sound good and have the lowest hp loss.  For a while, they were the
ticket.  Then scattered reports of poor durability due to poor construction
were filed on Pantera message boards.

              I have a '74 Pantera.  The euro GTS headers hit the left
engine mount on installation and were" fixed" in 1990 by the mechanic who
installed them with a BFH.  Years later I discovered that they *still* did
not completely clear the engine mount.    I also have a pair of Hall BB
headers on the other 74 Pantera.  The do not interfere with the engine
mounts .  Neither the GTS nor the HBB interfere with the gas tank shield.

            I suppose the easiest option is to buy a set of the euro GTS
headers.  The best and most expensive option would be to have a set of
headers fabricated.  Whatever manufactured headers you buy, CHECK the
fitment carefully before the final exhaust gaskets and bolts are applied.

                                
                                    Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Weston
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 8:26 AM
To: Rich Hoppe; detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headers

Last experience with 2" GTS tri-wye pipe arrangement required serious gas
tank heat shield movement for clearance. Hall Big Bores not so much, but
they touched.
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Rich
Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 4:53 PM
To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] headers

I have a pair of headers for 2v heads is someone needs them.

I need to purchase a new set for a 4v.

Tri wye or big bore.
What is the consensus?
Thanks

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   I have Mindtrain headers on my 1974 GTS they fit perfekt
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   Den man. 7. jan.. 2019 kl. 23.30 skrev Charles Engles
   <cengles at cox.net>:

   Dear Rich,
                 I don't know that there is a consensus.  IIRC, the Euro
   GTS
   headers-exhaust were considered the best although they lost a reported
   50
   hp.  The Hall Big Bores have a smallish collector and lose more hp.  I
   am
   also aware of one cognoscente that finds the BB exhaust note
   unpleasant.
   Then....came the Wilkinson headers.  Initially, they were reported to
   look
   good, sound good and have the lowest hp loss.  For a while, they were
   the
   ticket.  Then scattered reports of poor durability due to poor
   construction
   were filed on Pantera message boards.
                 I have a '74 Pantera.  The euro GTS headers hit the left
   engine mount on installation and were" fixed" in 1990 by the mechanic
   who
   installed them with a BFH.  Years later I discovered that they *still*
   did
   not completely clear the engine mount.    I also have a pair of Hall BB
   headers on the other 74 Pantera.  The do not interfere with the engine
   mounts .  Neither the GTS nor the HBB interfere with the gas tank
   shield.
               I suppose the easiest option is to buy a set of the euro
   GTS
   headers.  The best and most expensive option would be to have a set of
   headers fabricated.  Whatever manufactured headers you buy, CHECK the
   fitment carefully before the final exhaust gaskets and bolts are
   applied.

                                       Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Larry Weston
   Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 8:26 AM
   To: Rich Hoppe; [3]detomaso at detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headers
   Last experience with 2" GTS tri-wye pipe arrangement required serious
   gas
   tank heat shield movement for clearance. Hall Big Bores not so much,
   but
   they touched.
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Rich
   Hoppe <[5]richbhoppe at gmail.com>
   Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 4:53 PM
   To: [6]detomaso at detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] headers
   I have a pair of headers for 2v heads is someone needs them.
   I need to purchase a new set for a 4v.
   Tri wye or big bore.
   What is the consensus?
   Thanks
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